New shotgun for the Troops ?

Eghad · June 5, 2005, 09:10 AM

http://www.military.com/soldiertech/...soldiertech.nl

armor penetrating with no recoil.......

psycho nut · June 5, 2005, 05:45 PM

It looks cool

, hate to be on the recieving end though.....

Hello123 · June 9, 2005, 03:50 PM

It looks neat. The gentlemen surely worked hard on it, so I wish them all the best.

steelersfan0000 · June 9, 2005, 06:16 PM

I hope im never on the other end of one of those!!!

Heist · June 9, 2005, 08:08 PM

Only shotgun I'd take into combat would be a belt fed semi auto version of this with a quick change barrel. That said.. what is the function of a shotgun that weighs and bulks double that of a .223 with half the range?

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It is a well-known fact that terrorists killing our troops in Iraq are not afraid of the M4 and its 5.56mm bullet

BillCA · June 10, 2005, 12:25 AM

Thanks a lot, Eghad!
Now that I've finished mopping up the drool on my desk...

Heist
The shotgun is a "close combat" weapon, meaning that it's best effective range is inside 200m. For combat teams in Iraq, you'd have one or two operators who would be part of your entry team. Likewise, at urban distances the shotgun is a formidable weapon because it can throw out lead in a huge volume of space, improving the odds of a hit.

Also, keep in mind that many of our enemies over there are prepared to die for their cause. What they aren't as well prepared for (so I hear) is surviving the encounter and being captured as wounded.

Heist · June 10, 2005, 12:44 AM

Oh, I definitely see it as a close quarters house clearing type weapon. I just don't see it getting widespread use.

mikikanazawa · June 10, 2005, 01:12 AM

Interesting. Looks like the motion (and mass) of the bolt counteracts recoil when the cartridges are fired.

Lucky 7 · June 14, 2005, 10:38 AM

The M1014 we Marines are using is a very good weapon! Being in Security Forces we get to shoot these new babies extensivily and they are still in great shape, but...damn, would I like to blast away with that puppy! Looks like fun!

-L7

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Eghad Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 6,231	New shotgun for the Troops ? http://www.military.com/soldiertech/...soldiertech.nl armor penetrating with no recoil....... __________________ Have a nice day at the range NRA Life Member

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Hello123 Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2005 Posts: 571	I hope it goes over. It looks neat. The gentlemen surely worked hard on it, so I wish them all the best.

June 10, 2005, 12:25 AM	#6
BillCA Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, Ca Posts: 7,117	Thanks a lot, Eghad! Now that I've finished mopping up the drool on my desk... Heist The shotgun is a "close combat" weapon, meaning that it's best effective range is inside 200m. For combat teams in Iraq, you'd have one or two operators who would be part of your entry team. Likewise, at urban distances the shotgun is a formidable weapon because it can throw out lead in a huge volume of space, improving the odds of a hit. Also, keep in mind that many of our enemies over there are prepared to die for their cause. What they aren't as well prepared for (so I hear) is surviving the encounter and being captured as wounded. __________________ BillCA in CA (Unfortunately)

June 14, 2005, 10:38 AM	#9
Lucky 7 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2002 Posts: 454	The M1014 we Marines are using is a very good weapon! Being in Security Forces we get to shoot these new babies extensivily and they are still in great shape, but...damn, would I like to blast away with that puppy! Looks like fun! -L7 __________________ Signature Space For Rent. SOLD! "Just relax. Breath normally. All you should see is the front sight post. Ignore the the target. Wait for the pause between breaths and when you feel good about it...ease the trigger back." -PMI Sgt. Hopkins, USMC

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June 5, 2005, 05:45 PM	#2
psycho nut Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 480	It looks cool , hate to be on the recieving end though.....

June 9, 2005, 06:16 PM	#4
steelersfan0000 Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Location: OHIO Posts: 223	I hope im never on the other end of one of those!!!

June 10, 2005, 12:44 AM	#7
Heist Junior member Join Date: June 6, 2005 Location: ETN, Again Posts: 760	Oh, I definitely see it as a close quarters house clearing type weapon. I just don't see it getting widespread use.

June 10, 2005, 01:12 AM	#8
mikikanazawa Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2004 Posts: 449	Interesting. Looks like the motion (and mass) of the bolt counteracts recoil when the cartridges are fired.