Gun control survey on CNN

Webologist · May 28, 2014, 11:32 AM

CNN has a gun control survey in the lower right corner of

http://edition.cnn.com/

Please vote. Antis are winning 68% to 32%.

Edit:

Survey title - Does the United States need stricter gun control laws?

Results:

Yes 62%
No 38%

Kimio · May 28, 2014, 11:39 AM

I'd recommend writing a bit more in This thread before it's considered a drive by.

Glenn E. Meyer · May 28, 2014, 11:40 AM

Just a media exercise - when folks do a real survey they find:

1. Most Americans are in favor of measures that can keep guns from criminals.

2. Most Americans are in favor of law abiding citizens being able to own guns.

The second question is usually not asked in media polls that are just for sensational purposes.

kilimanjaro · May 28, 2014, 12:00 PM

Media polls are meaningless except as a reflection of the media demographic.

They will use these to stir up their base.

An adverse result to their desired outcome will be buried. So go ahead and visit CNN.

Webologist · May 28, 2014, 12:07 PM

54% / 46% closing the gap. Good work.

Whether results get buried or trumpeted, it sends a message to CNN and viewers. It also precludes people who would use a negative outcome to push their agenda, from claiming the public supports their view.

NWPilgrim · May 28, 2014, 12:51 PM

53/47 and less than 1,000 votes. You have to go to the full website, bottom right corner.

I was surprised it was kind of subdued in its placement and wording. It times past polls like thus are more prominent and worded more blatantly biased. Of course, the fact they even ask about gun control rather than better self defense or dealing with deranged relatives reveals their strong bias.

Also, just asking about "gun control" with no specifics reveals the specifics are not important to them. Any restriction is gun control whether regardless of impact or efficacy.

Webologist · May 28, 2014, 01:02 PM

Thanks Pilgrim. (kinda, felt like John Wayne saying that)

55% NO / 45% YES now! Great work...

leadcounsel · May 28, 2014, 02:37 PM

http://edition.cnn.com/

Hit it

Brian Pfleuger · May 28, 2014, 02:42 PM

Threads merged

Kimio · May 28, 2014, 02:52 PM

Meh, roughly a 16% difference, but not surprising considering the base and left leaning tendencies CNN usually has.

Plus the question is way to vague. Still, it does show there is a pretty heavy bit of polarity on the topic and even on a left leaning news channel, the topic is still pretty even in regards to whether or not there needs to be more/less gun control.

Obviously I disagree, and that "poll" does not reflect the general demograph accurately, even if it was skewed towards the anti or pro side of the argument here.

leadcounsel · May 28, 2014, 03:25 PM

Polls shape public opinion and public opinion shapes polls.

Unscientific or not, it shapes viewpoints especially for huge audiences like CNN.

To the dis-interested person, they will believe either of these two statements like sheep. "In a recent poll, in light of the shooting in California:

"Most Americans believe more gun laws are needed."

Versus

"Americans believe we have strict enough gun laws."

It does make a difference in the brainwashing... er... shaping of public viewpoints. Maybe not to the hard line folks for or against, but it does for the 20% or so in the middle.

s3779m · May 28, 2014, 03:43 PM

Keep it up, no 60% 882 votes, yes 40% 576 votes

2ndsojourn · May 28, 2014, 03:50 PM

61% NO
39% Yes

**Tom Servo** · May 28, 2014, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Keep it up

Why bother? There's a new one of these every day, and given how easily small groups can influence the results, they're not taken very seriously. This is about as effective as those petitions on the White House site.

patriotic · May 28, 2014, 04:23 PM

62% no to 38% yes with 1547 responding

**Spats McGee** · May 28, 2014, 04:47 PM

1619 votes
1019/63% NO
600/37% YES

jeager106 · May 28, 2014, 05:14 PM

How about this survey question:
Do we need better laws to protect society from the dangerous mentally ill?

Skans · May 28, 2014, 05:29 PM

Quote:

How about this survey question:
Do we need better laws to protect society from the dangerous mentally ill?

No. We just need laws against people making children without following through with their obligations as parents. Most of these sad murderers come from broken families. We need to wake up and realized that lack of proper mother/father parenting and divorce is a huge contributing factor to maladjusted children and out-of control adults. There's a good reason why "bastards" and people with children who got divorced were historically shunned.

Webologist · May 28, 2014, 05:45 PM

65% No
35% Yes

Almost a 180° change from when we first heard about it.

Great work.

chiefr · May 28, 2014, 05:59 PM

Well, if my post gets poofed, no offense.
I refuse to visit their website or watch. Absolutely the most anti 2A of all.

Webologist · May 28, 2014, 06:02 PM

I can respect that. I've blocked that channel on my TV for the same reason. I don't want to give them even an accidental ratings boost...

The website does at least provide a platform for dissent and discussion through Disgus. I do try to win hearts and minds there to prevent lefty from having an unchallenged message. The discussion forum associated with each topic is really pretty balanced. I do think a reasoned, considerate message helps sway folks reading who might be on the fence. (Particularly when contrasted to the hatred and hyperbole from the left)

North East Redneck · May 28, 2014, 06:43 PM

66% NO
34% yes.

1830 votes.

krunchnik · May 28, 2014, 07:25 PM

As of this moment no-67%

Lakota · May 28, 2014, 08:09 PM

67 no 33 yes 9:08 PM EST.

**44 AMP** · May 28, 2014, 11:50 PM

Its CNN,

any relationship between CNN and the truth is purely coincidental.

May 28, 2014, 11:32 AM	#1
Webologist Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 45	Gun control survey on CNN CNN has a gun control survey in the lower right corner of http://edition.cnn.com/ Please vote. Antis are winning 68% to 32%. Edit: Survey title - Does the United States need stricter gun control laws? Results: Yes 62% No 38% Last edited by Webologist; May 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM.

May 28, 2014, 11:40 AM	#3
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Just a media exercise - when folks do a real survey they find: 1. Most Americans are in favor of measures that can keep guns from criminals. 2. Most Americans are in favor of law abiding citizens being able to own guns. The second question is usually not asked in media polls that are just for sensational purposes. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

May 28, 2014, 12:07 PM	#5
Webologist Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 45	54% / 46% closing the gap. Good work. Whether results get buried or trumpeted, it sends a message to CNN and viewers. It also precludes people who would use a negative outcome to push their agenda, from claiming the public supports their view. Last edited by Webologist; May 28, 2014 at 12:44 PM.

May 28, 2014, 12:51 PM	#6
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	Gun control survey on CNN 53/47 and less than 1,000 votes. You have to go to the full website, bottom right corner. I was surprised it was kind of subdued in its placement and wording. It times past polls like thus are more prominent and worded more blatantly biased. Of course, the fact they even ask about gun control rather than better self defense or dealing with deranged relatives reveals their strong bias. Also, just asking about "gun control" with no specifics reveals the specifics are not important to them. Any restriction is gun control whether regardless of impact or efficacy. Last edited by NWPilgrim; May 28, 2014 at 12:58 PM.

May 28, 2014, 01:02 PM	#7
Webologist Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 45	Thanks Pilgrim. (kinda, felt like John Wayne saying that) 55% NO / 45% YES now! Great work... Last edited by Webologist; May 28, 2014 at 02:06 PM.

May 28, 2014, 11:39 AM	#2
Kimio Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,171	I'd recommend writing a bit more in This thread before it's considered a drive by.

May 28, 2014, 12:00 PM	#4
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Media polls are meaningless except as a reflection of the media demographic. They will use these to stir up their base. An adverse result to their desired outcome will be buried. So go ahead and visit CNN.

May 28, 2014, 02:37 PM	#8
leadcounsel Junior member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 2,119	CNN gun control poll http://edition.cnn.com/ Hit it

May 28, 2014, 02:42 PM	#9
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Threads merged __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

May 28, 2014, 02:52 PM	#10
Kimio Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,171	Meh, roughly a 16% difference, but not surprising considering the base and left leaning tendencies CNN usually has. Plus the question is way to vague. Still, it does show there is a pretty heavy bit of polarity on the topic and even on a left leaning news channel, the topic is still pretty even in regards to whether or not there needs to be more/less gun control. Obviously I disagree, and that "poll" does not reflect the general demograph accurately, even if it was skewed towards the anti or pro side of the argument here.

May 28, 2014, 03:25 PM	#11
leadcounsel Junior member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 2,119	Polls shape public opinion and public opinion shapes polls. Unscientific or not, it shapes viewpoints especially for huge audiences like CNN. To the dis-interested person, they will believe either of these two statements like sheep. "In a recent poll, in light of the shooting in California: "Most Americans believe more gun laws are needed." Versus "Americans believe we have strict enough gun laws." It does make a difference in the brainwashing... er... shaping of public viewpoints. Maybe not to the hard line folks for or against, but it does for the 20% or so in the middle.

May 28, 2014, 03:43 PM	#12
s3779m Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2012 Location: Lometa, Texas Posts: 345	Keep it up, no 60% 882 votes, yes 40% 576 votes

May 28, 2014, 03:50 PM	#13
2ndsojourn Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,416	61% NO 39% Yes

May 28, 2014, 04:23 PM	#15
patriotic Member Join Date: November 22, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 83	62% no to 38% yes with 1547 responding

May 28, 2014, 04:47 PM	#16
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	1619 votes 1019/63% NO 600/37% YES __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

May 28, 2014, 05:14 PM	#17
jeager106 Junior member Join Date: November 24, 2006 Location: N.E. Oh. Posts: 527	How about this survey question: Do we need better laws to protect society from the dangerous mentally ill?

May 28, 2014, 05:45 PM	#19
Webologist Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 45	65% No 35% Yes Almost a 180° change from when we first heard about it. Great work.

May 28, 2014, 05:59 PM	#20
chiefr Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: AR Posts: 1,401	Well, if my post gets poofed, no offense. I refuse to visit their website or watch. Absolutely the most anti 2A of all.

May 28, 2014, 06:02 PM	#21
Webologist Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Posts: 45	I can respect that. I've blocked that channel on my TV for the same reason. I don't want to give them even an accidental ratings boost... The website does at least provide a platform for dissent and discussion through Disgus. I do try to win hearts and minds there to prevent lefty from having an unchallenged message. The discussion forum associated with each topic is really pretty balanced. I do think a reasoned, considerate message helps sway folks reading who might be on the fence. (Particularly when contrasted to the hatred and hyperbole from the left) Last edited by Webologist; May 28, 2014 at 06:08 PM.

May 28, 2014, 06:43 PM	#22
North East Redneck Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2012 Location: Berkshire Hills Posts: 741	66% NO 34% yes. 1830 votes. __________________ NRA Patron Member SAF Life Member GOAL Member

May 28, 2014, 07:25 PM	#23
krunchnik Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2010 Location: Lakeland,TN Posts: 220	As of this moment no-67% __________________ THE CROW

May 28, 2014, 08:09 PM	#24
Lakota Member Join Date: March 14, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 58	67 no 33 yes 9:08 PM EST.

May 28, 2014, 11:50 PM	#25
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,850	Its CNN, any relationship between CNN and the truth is purely coincidental. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.