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January 22, 2014, 12:35 PM | #26 | |
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January 22, 2014, 02:22 PM | #27 |
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Assuming someone is just knocking on my door (not actually trying to get inside), I'd call the cops and shout that if you need help the police will be here shortly.
I would behave as if, but not assume, the person was up to no good. In other words, I would not shoot through the door. There's a possibility the person may just need help. I remember something similar happening not long ago. Can't remember where. Someone, might have been female, had a accident late at night and was injured. Went to the nearest home, was knocking and yelling at the door and ended up getting shot. The homeowner wasn't prosecuted but it was a tragic mistake. |
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Here accident was hours before she was shot, I think that's at least two, six blocks away wasn't the closest house, another woman had offered help, but the young women was too drunk to accept it and she ran off down the road no one knows where, and like was said, six blocks and hours later, she showed up on this guys steps beating on his door. Now I am not offering judgment, but, unless there is a secret witness or a recording somewhere, no one other then the defendant knows in what way this woman presented herself at the man's door that night. A Jury will here it if it isn't thrown out.
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January 22, 2014, 04:48 PM | #29 |
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I'm pretty sure that was the incident. I'd forgotten the details and that she was intoxicated but remembered she was acting strangely. I'd still not shoot someone through the door, but I wouldn't open the door unless I knew alot more about the situation either. |
January 22, 2014, 05:31 PM | #30 |
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Agreed.
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January 22, 2014, 05:31 PM | #31 |
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1)I would have bedside firearm already at the sound of the knocking. And, cell phone and would call police
2)OUtside lights flipped on our set off by motion detector. Would not go near the door. 3)Family gathered in safe place with weapon(s). 4)Wait for police. Note: If he comes through door before police arrive. Then, game on. |
January 22, 2014, 05:47 PM | #32 |
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What is wrong with grabbing a gun, and a phone and going to see who it is?
Maybe it's your neighbor Bob trying to tell you your barn or car is on fire. Maybe it's Bob who was attacked and fled his house because he was unarmed and knows you aren't. If it is a drunk at the wrong house they may see you with the gun and realize that they should GTFO of there and leave. If it is a criminal they will then need to decide wether to take on an armed person who is inside their own home. Most criminals are lazy and wouldn't want to go through the effort when they can find an easier target. |
January 22, 2014, 08:57 PM | #33 |
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nothing "wrong" with taking a peek but I certainly would not open the door at 4am unless I am darn sure and I mean DARN sure its a friend or trusted neighbor and what they want.
The bad thing is that if its not a friend but rather a sketchy situation, they want you at the front door for a reason... You open the door to some innocent looking guy huffing and puffing trying to tell you what is the matter... all the while, his partner has already begun climbing in through the window they just took 30 minutes quietly getting the glass out of. By the time you realize something isn't right.. you have a bad guy in front of you and behind you. The way I look at it.. the sheriff can be at my door in 5 minutes.. if someone needs help that badly, the sheriff can help them and I will gladly make the call for them from behind a closed and locked door.
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As far as I know it is not illegal to knock on someone's door, even at 0400. I would have turned on the outside floodlights and asked through the door, with pistol in my hand, "Who's there and what do you want?". It might be a neighbor in need or some drunken idiot who has the wrong house. Now if they tried to force their way in to my home, well, here is the NC statute that covers such a scenario... Quote:
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I'm in the country too and one night around 4 am, I was awakend from a dead sleep of what sounded like someone coming through the door. I immediately grabbed my 1911, flashlight and headed to the door to meet them. Turns out we had temporarily set up a fax near there and it was going through a shut down mode or something. Either way I was going to meet them prepared to find out what was going on. If you had shot someone through the door you may have been very sorry and in jail. |
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I was specifically responding to the comment that shooting through the door was not "tactically sound". The fact is that it can be tactically sound--the reason that it is generally not recommended is because of the moral and legal issues involved.
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JohnKSa, I think you are confused.
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January 27, 2014, 01:24 AM | #43 |
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You did exactly the right things - turn on the lights, call the cops, didn't open the door.
Good discussion of this in a Massad Ayoob video on YouTube - Don't Answer the Door, just search for it.
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Called 911 once, in my 10 years in this house, 5 minutes response time.
We are upstairs, two of us. Check for known vehicles from upstairs. Call 911, hit the alarm switch it is one loud siren, give it a couple of minutes, turn it off! Cell phone, Glock 19, we are the end of 4 town houses. |
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You really need a way of seeing who's at your door without "going to" the door or answering it.
Window in another room, camera, etc.
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Whether or not your you held such a fear and if it was reasonable is a question of fact. If at 3 in the morning the person is on the other side of a door chambering a round and taking a stance to kick in your door, all of which you saw on a security monitor, I think law enforcement and a jury might buy justifiable homicide. If you didn't know that they were chambering a round or were even armed or that they were preparing to kick in the door, you may need a good criminal defense attorney. |
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DreamingStraight, i am not talking about the law, i did not recommend any action. I just said what I said, don't read anything at all into it.
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Fact is, it's dumb to put yourself in harm's way unnecessarily. If you really think that knock/disturbance at the door could be someone wanting to take a shot at you, why would you put yourself in a position to be in the direct line of fire? |
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