Starting to Realize the Merits of SBRs - Page 2

**Spats McGee** · February 22, 2024, 01:30 PM

I've never tried a bullpup (but I'm beginning to think I'd like to), nor have I ever tried an SBR, but I've always preferred rifles on the shorter end of things. Give me a quick-handling carbine and I'm a happy guy. I know that long barrels are better at distance, but I grew up and live in north Arkansas. You have to really go looking to find a place to shoot out past about 200 yards. I could have a lot of fun with a rifle like the OP's.

rc · February 23, 2024, 01:38 AM

I always wanted a folding stock, SBR 10/22 with suppressor since the first time I saw one but I don't think I'll ever be able to have one.

Screwball · February 23, 2024, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rc

I always wanted a folding stock, SBR 10/22 with suppressor since the first time I saw one but I don't think I'll ever be able to have one.

I SBRed my M&P15/22 pistol… it is definitely my favorite .22. Especially adding the Rugged Oculus and subsonics, it is a perfect pest control device.

Ricklin · February 23, 2024, 01:52 PM

I have but one bullpup in the accumulation, a Walther G-22, I really like the darn thing. It suffers the typical bullpup issue, lousy trigger.
The G-22 is also a PITA to suppress, need to sleeve the muzzle to do 1/2 28 direct thread. It will get done when I break down and do the process for a can.
The Walther takes about 15 minutes to switch around for Southpaws, they recommend a gunsmith it is easy DIY watch out for small springs.
I can see a bullpup conversion being a right hand only affair. While the G-22 is not popular, i like mine.

zeke · February 23, 2024, 07:20 PM

Adjustable stock SBR's are particularly useful to those of us with short arms. Keeps the cog closer to the body, and can provide a 12.5 in lop. Stick a suppressor on a 10.5 in ar, and it is still short.

Ignition Override · February 23, 2024, 08:52 PM

Well, I'm a very slow learner.

My pair of FALs plus the M1A with the 21" or so barrels (The PTR has an 18") will never be in a war zone doing room clearing, or in the trenches of southeastern Ukraine.

The advantage of an SBR for me would be the option of owning a cool-looking gun, resembling what has sometimes been carried by the (British) SBS, Seals and probably Delta Team.

The targets are clay pigeons at approx. 100/120 yards or an 8" x 10" metal gong at 200, possibly 300 yards.

rickyrick · February 24, 2024, 12:30 AM

I grew up on the high plains, moved and lived most of my adult life on n the rolling plains of Texas, lived a few years in SW WA, didn’t shoot as much there. Now I’m permanently living in my own dense forest of deep East Texas. I can tell you that rifle length and portability makes a huge difference depending on where you’re tromping around.

SR420 · February 24, 2024, 10:41 AM

I like other peoples SBRs and Bull Pups, but I'm not going to own either no matter how cool they look... I've eighty sixed the idea of turning my K1A1 into an SBR.

My shortest do everything I need it to do rifle is an M14 with a 16.25" barrel, it's accurate, reliable, suppressible and easy to maneuver. If I somehow find myself needing extra muzzle velocities I will grab my 18" M1A, or my 22" M14.

zeke · February 24, 2024, 01:09 PM

Sbr's are not limited to rifle calibers, are capable of replacing regular pistols for home defense use and are a lot lighter and more accurate for some of us old folks. If in a common pistol caliber, ammunition is a hell of a lot cheaper, as are reloading supplies.

Granted they may not have the "cool factor" of a 308 battle rifle that some's primary purpose is for looking cool at the range. And am in possession of Fal's and M1A's, but am not very likely to be in some battle environment anywhere. There are excellent rifles, but heavy and expensive for this old boy aging out on a fixed income. As i age out, it becomes increasingly more difficult to even level up some old iron battle rifle with fully loaded mag and keep it leveled for more than a few seconds. Short 223 or short 9mm sbr is no problem.

People have differing and legitimate purposes for what they decide to own/shoot/take to the range.

February 22, 2024, 01:30 PM	#26
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	I've never tried a bullpup (but I'm beginning to think I'd like to), nor have I ever tried an SBR, but I've always preferred rifles on the shorter end of things. Give me a quick-handling carbine and I'm a happy guy. I know that long barrels are better at distance, but I grew up and live in north Arkansas. You have to really go looking to find a place to shoot out past about 200 yards. I could have a lot of fun with a rifle like the OP's. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

February 23, 2024, 01:38 AM	#27
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,769	10/22 Pocket Rifle I always wanted a folding stock, SBR 10/22 with suppressor since the first time I saw one but I don't think I'll ever be able to have one.

February 23, 2024, 01:52 PM	#29
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,018	One bullpup I have but one bullpup in the accumulation, a Walther G-22, I really like the darn thing. It suffers the typical bullpup issue, lousy trigger. The G-22 is also a PITA to suppress, need to sleeve the muzzle to do 1/2 28 direct thread. It will get done when I break down and do the process for a can. The Walther takes about 15 minutes to switch around for Southpaws, they recommend a gunsmith it is easy DIY watch out for small springs. I can see a bullpup conversion being a right hand only affair. While the G-22 is not popular, i like mine. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

February 23, 2024, 08:52 PM	#31
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	Well, I'm a very slow learner. My pair of FALs plus the M1A with the 21" or so barrels (The PTR has an 18") will never be in a war zone doing room clearing, or in the trenches of southeastern Ukraine. The advantage of an SBR for me would be the option of owning a cool-looking gun, resembling what has sometimes been carried by the (British) SBS, Seals and probably Delta Team. The targets are clay pigeons at approx. 100/120 yards or an 8" x 10" metal gong at 200, possibly 300 yards. Last edited by Ignition Override; February 24, 2024 at 12:51 AM.

February 24, 2024, 12:30 AM	#32
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	I grew up on the high plains, moved and lived most of my adult life on n the rolling plains of Texas, lived a few years in SW WA, didn’t shoot as much there. Now I’m permanently living in my own dense forest of deep East Texas. I can tell you that rifle length and portability makes a huge difference depending on where you’re tromping around. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

February 23, 2024, 07:20 PM	#30
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	Adjustable stock SBR's are particularly useful to those of us with short arms. Keeps the cog closer to the body, and can provide a 12.5 in lop. Stick a suppressor on a 10.5 in ar, and it is still short.

February 24, 2024, 10:41 AM	#33
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,336	I like other peoples SBRs and Bull Pups, but I'm not going to own either no matter how cool they look... I've eighty sixed the idea of turning my K1A1 into an SBR. My shortest do everything I need it to do rifle is an M14 with a 16.25" barrel, it's accurate, reliable, suppressible and easy to maneuver. If I somehow find myself needing extra muzzle velocities I will grab my 18" M1A, or my 22" M14. __________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR

February 24, 2024, 01:09 PM	#34
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	Sbr's are not limited to rifle calibers, are capable of replacing regular pistols for home defense use and are a lot lighter and more accurate for some of us old folks. If in a common pistol caliber, ammunition is a hell of a lot cheaper, as are reloading supplies. Granted they may not have the "cool factor" of a 308 battle rifle that some's primary purpose is for looking cool at the range. And am in possession of Fal's and M1A's, but am not very likely to be in some battle environment anywhere. There are excellent rifles, but heavy and expensive for this old boy aging out on a fixed income. As i age out, it becomes increasingly more difficult to even level up some old iron battle rifle with fully loaded mag and keep it leveled for more than a few seconds. Short 223 or short 9mm sbr is no problem. People have differing and legitimate purposes for what they decide to own/shoot/take to the range.