Illuminated Reticle, Low-Magnification Scope?

swsurgeon · October 4, 2001, 01:02 AM

I'm looking for a low-magnification variable scope (say, 1.5-5 power) with an illuminated reticle. It would be nice to have an objective lens a little larger than 20mm. Any recommendations?

Thanks very much.

swsurgeon · October 4, 2001, 11:56 AM

Erick,

Thanks very much for the reference. I have a 3.5 X 35 mm TA11 ACOG on a Bushmaster and like it a lot. I've looked at both of the Trijicon variables. The 3-9 does not look or feel bad, but doesn't have quite the low mag/wide field I'm hoping for. The 1.5 has at most a 20mm objective and it looks and feels like it belongs on a BB gun. Perhaps I'm being ridiculous, but I just can't seem to see it on my 338.

I've posted several specific inquiries about the Trijicon variables in a few different forums. I got only one response (favorable) from someone who had the 3-9. It doesn't seem that there are many of them out there, but I can't tell whether it's because of mediocre performance or simply a lack of aggressive marketing.

Your suggestion is a good one and I appreciate it. I'll have to mull it over a bit more.

agalb · October 4, 2001, 04:03 PM

How about the ELCAN?

swsurgeon · October 4, 2001, 08:36 PM

The problem with the Elcan would probably be about the same as I encountered with mounting the TA-11 ACOG on my 338. There's no easy factory mounting system. I fabricated a mount and got it to work, but the eye relief isn't great. You have to be pretty careful. Furthermore, the mount I fabricated required a little shimming to get the windage/elevation adjustments to work right. The shims prevent it from being an easy on/off mount. I contacted a custom mount maker, but it would run about $250.

While hunting elk a guy asked me "isn't that one of those assault file scopes?" I pointed to the bolt action 338 and replied "to an elk, this IS an assault rifle." At least we got a laugh out of the encounter.

dZ · October 4, 2001, 08:57 PM

what about:

TR-21 1.25-4x24 Matte Finish w/ Amber Triangle BAC(1" Tube)

http://www.swfa.com/riflescopes/trij...accupoint.html

dZ · October 4, 2001, 09:05 PM

what about:

TR-21 1.25-4x24 Matte Finish w/ Amber Triangle BAC(1" Tube)

http://www.swfa.com/riflescopes/trij...accupoint.html

there is also a leupold:
http://www.swfa.com/riflescopes/leup...ted/index.html

swsurgeon · October 5, 2001, 04:38 PM

dZ,

Thanks for the references. I'll look hard at that Leupold. I guess I haven't kept up with their scope line very well because I've never seen an illuminated low mag variable Leupold at a show or a shop.

I have handled the Trijicons. The scope in your picture is the 3-9 x 40mm, which is a little high mag for my applications. I have some reservations about the durability of the 1.25-4, but I should probably do more research because the magnification would be perfect for me. It just doesn't feel like it would stand up to a lightweight 338.

Thanks again for for your advice.

Ehornad · October 6, 2001, 02:56 PM

I've got the 4.5-14 LP Vari-X, but really need a handgun scope for a scout I'm building, does an IR handgun scope exist?

swsurgeon · October 8, 2001, 12:51 PM

There's the Trijicon Reflex and a host of electric red dots, but I am not aware of any IR handgun scopes with magnification. Anybody know of any?

G3 · October 8, 2001, 05:58 PM

Leupold is coming out with a CQB scope with an illuminated recticle powered by an AA battery. It should be on the market in 30 days.

Ehornad · October 8, 2001, 07:22 PM

G3 can you give any more info, like how much mag or lit ret?" Links to data?

swsurgeon · October 9, 2001, 03:33 PM

G3,

Thanks for the heads up----that sounds very interesting!

shooter1201 · October 9, 2001, 09:56 PM

TASCO used to make a 1.5x IR handgun scope. I had one on a Ruger MkII.

G3 · October 13, 2001, 07:17 AM

I got the information from a rep at Sable Co. He gave a brief description of the scope on the ar15.com forums. Once the forums are working again, I'll post the specs.

October 4, 2001, 01:02 AM	#1
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	Illuminated Reticle, Low-Magnification Scope? I'm looking for a low-magnification variable scope (say, 1.5-5 power) with an illuminated reticle. It would be nice to have an objective lens a little larger than 20mm. Any recommendations? Thanks very much.

October 4, 2001, 08:57 PM	#5
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	what about: TR-21 1.25-4x24 Matte Finish w/ Amber Triangle BAC(1" Tube) http://www.swfa.com/riflescopes/trij...accupoint.html __________________ "O tell the Lacedomecians to damn the torpedoes." BOTR, Chapter V: Some Monsters

October 4, 2001, 09:05 PM	#6
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	what about: TR-21 1.25-4x24 Matte Finish w/ Amber Triangle BAC(1" Tube) http://www.swfa.com/riflescopes/trij...accupoint.html there is also a leupold: http://www.swfa.com/riflescopes/leup...ted/index.html __________________ "O tell the Lacedomecians to damn the torpedoes." BOTR, Chapter V: Some Monsters

October 6, 2001, 02:56 PM	#8
Ehornad Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 1999 Location: Nampa, ID Posts: 148	I've got the 4.5-14 LP Vari-X, but really need a handgun scope for a scout I'm building, does an IR handgun scope exist? Last edited by Ehornad; October 8, 2001 at 07:21 PM.

October 9, 2001, 09:56 PM	#13
shooter1201 Member Join Date: October 8, 2001 Location: Shiloh, TN CSA Posts: 96	TASCO used to make a 1.5x IR handgun scope. I had one on a Ruger MkII. __________________ PREDATOR or PREY? The choice is yours.....

October 4, 2001, 11:56 AM	#2
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	Erick, Thanks very much for the reference. I have a 3.5 X 35 mm TA11 ACOG on a Bushmaster and like it a lot. I've looked at both of the Trijicon variables. The 3-9 does not look or feel bad, but doesn't have quite the low mag/wide field I'm hoping for. The 1.5 has at most a 20mm objective and it looks and feels like it belongs on a BB gun. Perhaps I'm being ridiculous, but I just can't seem to see it on my 338. I've posted several specific inquiries about the Trijicon variables in a few different forums. I got only one response (favorable) from someone who had the 3-9. It doesn't seem that there are many of them out there, but I can't tell whether it's because of mediocre performance or simply a lack of aggressive marketing. Your suggestion is a good one and I appreciate it. I'll have to mull it over a bit more.

October 4, 2001, 04:03 PM	#3
agalb Member Join Date: July 16, 2001 Posts: 22	How about the ELCAN?

October 4, 2001, 08:36 PM	#4
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	The problem with the Elcan would probably be about the same as I encountered with mounting the TA-11 ACOG on my 338. There's no easy factory mounting system. I fabricated a mount and got it to work, but the eye relief isn't great. You have to be pretty careful. Furthermore, the mount I fabricated required a little shimming to get the windage/elevation adjustments to work right. The shims prevent it from being an easy on/off mount. I contacted a custom mount maker, but it would run about $250. While hunting elk a guy asked me "isn't that one of those assault file scopes?" I pointed to the bolt action 338 and replied "to an elk, this IS an assault rifle." At least we got a laugh out of the encounter.

October 5, 2001, 04:38 PM	#7
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	dZ, Thanks for the references. I'll look hard at that Leupold. I guess I haven't kept up with their scope line very well because I've never seen an illuminated low mag variable Leupold at a show or a shop. I have handled the Trijicons. The scope in your picture is the 3-9 x 40mm, which is a little high mag for my applications. I have some reservations about the durability of the 1.25-4, but I should probably do more research because the magnification would be perfect for me. It just doesn't feel like it would stand up to a lightweight 338. Thanks again for for your advice.

October 8, 2001, 12:51 PM	#9
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	There's the Trijicon Reflex and a host of electric red dots, but I am not aware of any IR handgun scopes with magnification. Anybody know of any?

October 8, 2001, 05:58 PM	#10
G3 Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2000 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 138	Leupold is coming out with a CQB scope with an illuminated recticle powered by an AA battery. It should be on the market in 30 days.

October 8, 2001, 07:22 PM	#11
Ehornad Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 1999 Location: Nampa, ID Posts: 148	G3 can you give any more info, like how much mag or lit ret?" Links to data?

October 9, 2001, 03:33 PM	#12
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	G3, Thanks for the heads up----that sounds very interesting!

October 13, 2001, 07:17 AM	#14
G3 Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2000 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 138	I got the information from a rep at Sable Co. He gave a brief description of the scope on the ar15.com forums. Once the forums are working again, I'll post the specs.