CZ VZ24's at AIM surplus.....opinions - Page 2

johnwilliamson062 · May 8, 2009, 05:38 PM

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These efforts produced at the time the worlds largest peacetime army of 1,423,000 men organized in 16 Guards, 16 Grenadier, 208 Infantry, 44 Siberian rifle, 20 Sharpshooter, 12 Finnish rifle, 8 Caucasian rifle, 22 Turkestan rifle regiments plus 64 regular cavalry regiments and no less than 52 regiments of Cossack auxiliary cavalry. When mobilized with reservists and fully fleshed out this army amounted to 3,115,000 men in the front lines when war was declared on August 3rd, 1914.
Read more: "The Imperial Russian army of 1914: The Tsarist army of World War One was referred to as The Russian Steamroller | Suite101.com" - http://militaryhistory.suite101.com/...xzz0Ewrn5FLn&A

With over 3 million men in uniform who needs accuracys. I will term it "Manually operated combined unit synthesized automatic area accurate fire effect" MOCUSAAAFE for those of you from the FART academy.

BlueTrain · May 9, 2009, 01:57 PM

A K31 cost less than a vz24? I was basing my comment on what things cost (or rather, what I think things cost). However, I realize that retail costs of any given surplus model changes, through rarely do they go down. And then there's the ammunition. It hasn't been all that long that 7.62x54r was scarce and expensive. In any case, I admit the Mosin Nagant rifle and carbine have a certain charm but working the bolt is about the same as a Mauser, at least the ones I actually own at the moment. They all seem stiff and awkward after having used about a dozen different Lee-Enfields, however. But chiefly, cost is the real consideration.

SKS carbines were good buys for a while, the ones that came in crates marked "farm implements." What are they going for these days?

yodarkritch · May 10, 2009, 06:18 PM

I prefer the VZ 24 to my Kar98K, seems to be more craftsman-made

I agree the AIM price is twice too much, the SOG seems reasonable. A lot of these are by way of Kragujevac Yugoslavia , not that that's a bad thing, but many I've seen look parted together.

Back in the good ole days, before I HAD a C & R, George Stringer supplied me with my Rampant-Lion-CRESTED Gun-Koted VZ 24 with military sites installed on a new 7.62 x 39 bbl for $225 ready to shoot my reloads in and not send me home from the range beat up with 8mm black and blue ;>(

When you get it set up to shot what and where your like it will be part of your estate cause you aren't going to wear it out unless you fail to clean it.

yodar

cobrahd1999 · October 5, 2009, 01:13 PM

I use Easy OFF cold oven cleaner on the medal and wood. Does not hurt the medal finish. I redo the wood so I like it cause it takes to bare wood..
hope this helps

Ignition Override · October 6, 2009, 08:41 PM

snipecatcher:

You mentioned a No. 4 mk 1, and that is a very common Lee-Enfield, but you must have meant Czech Mauser.

johnwilliamson.
But in 1940 the Soviet Army contained many from warmer climates, that the Finnish climate, where the very out-numbered Finns beat them, to a large extent, and saved most of Helsinki.
Stalin's purges might have already deleted many thousands of experienced officers. This almost cost them the war when the Germans invaded.

And they used a huge number of Mosin Nagants.

tater134 · October 6, 2009, 08:48 PM

I havent ordered one of the Vz24's yet but I did get to handle one at a local shop that was one of the recent AIM rifles and it was in very nice condition.It was refurbed but looked great and had a good bore.

mp25ds4 · October 6, 2009, 08:51 PM

the vz24 is supposed to be one of the best mausers made, even if yours isnt too good on collector value it should still be a great gun, and 229 is a decent price for how nice those look

gyvel · October 7, 2009, 10:02 AM

Does anyone know what the Russians did with all the capture screws????

zenithman2003 · July 17, 2010, 07:42 AM

I just purchased a VZ24 from AIM this week and it is fantastic. Excellent shape, bore, and bluing. Bolt is smooth smooth smooth. I paid the 10 dollar hand pick fee. Ordered a sling off of ebay. I also ordered a tin of 8mm with it and can't wait to try it out.

TX Hunter · July 17, 2010, 05:11 PM

Is the VZ 24 Action an intermediate leinght like the Yugo 24 47 ?

Clark500 · July 17, 2010, 05:18 PM

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Is the VZ 24 Action an intermediate leinght like the Yugo 24 47 ?

No, I believe it is a standard, full-length action.

madcratebuilder · July 18, 2010, 08:18 AM

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Is the VZ 24 Action an intermediate leinght like the Yugo 24 47 ?
No, I believe it is a standard, full-length action.

+1

Full length.

Here are two intermediate and one full length.

The bottom rifle is a Yugo M24/52C, a Yugo re-arsenaled VZ24.

May 9, 2009, 01:57 PM	#27
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	A K31 cost less than a vz24? I was basing my comment on what things cost (or rather, what I think things cost). However, I realize that retail costs of any given surplus model changes, through rarely do they go down. And then there's the ammunition. It hasn't been all that long that 7.62x54r was scarce and expensive. In any case, I admit the Mosin Nagant rifle and carbine have a certain charm but working the bolt is about the same as a Mauser, at least the ones I actually own at the moment. They all seem stiff and awkward after having used about a dozen different Lee-Enfields, however. But chiefly, cost is the real consideration. SKS carbines were good buys for a while, the ones that came in crates marked "farm implements." What are they going for these days? __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

May 10, 2009, 06:18 PM	#28
yodarkritch Member Join Date: December 8, 2006 Location: central florida Posts: 51	VZ 24 I prefer the VZ 24 to my Kar98K, seems to be more craftsman-made I agree the AIM price is twice too much, the SOG seems reasonable. A lot of these are by way of Kragujevac Yugoslavia , not that that's a bad thing, but many I've seen look parted together. Back in the good ole days, before I HAD a C & R, George Stringer supplied me with my Rampant-Lion-CRESTED Gun-Koted VZ 24 with military sites installed on a new 7.62 x 39 bbl for $225 ready to shoot my reloads in and not send me home from the range beat up with 8mm black and blue ;>( When you get it set up to shot what and where your like it will be part of your estate cause you aren't going to wear it out unless you fail to clean it. yodar __________________ Yodar Words MEAN things Homebrewing in Central Florida

October 5, 2009, 01:13 PM	#29
cobrahd1999 Junior Member Join Date: October 5, 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 8	Gun Cleaning I use Easy OFF cold oven cleaner on the medal and wood. Does not hurt the medal finish. I redo the wood so I like it cause it takes to bare wood.. hope this helps __________________ Frank Disabled Vietnam Vet 68-69 US ARMY Brothers Forever.."The trouble with the Vietnam War it killed so many that survived" "That's all I have to say about that. "( Forrest Gump) Retired Union Carpenter Local 272 Chicago

October 6, 2009, 08:41 PM	#30
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,884	snipecatcher: You mentioned a No. 4 mk 1, and that is a very common Lee-Enfield, but you must have meant Czech Mauser. johnwilliamson. But in 1940 the Soviet Army contained many from warmer climates, that the Finnish climate, where the very out-numbered Finns beat them, to a large extent, and saved most of Helsinki. Stalin's purges might have already deleted many thousands of experienced officers. This almost cost them the war when the Germans invaded. And they used a huge number of Mosin Nagants. Last edited by Ignition Override; October 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM.

October 6, 2009, 08:51 PM	#32
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	the vz24 is supposed to be one of the best mausers made, even if yours isnt too good on collector value it should still be a great gun, and 229 is a decent price for how nice those look __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

May 8, 2009, 05:38 PM	#26
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Quote: These efforts produced at the time the worlds largest peacetime army of 1,423,000 men organized in 16 Guards, 16 Grenadier, 208 Infantry, 44 Siberian rifle, 20 Sharpshooter, 12 Finnish rifle, 8 Caucasian rifle, 22 Turkestan rifle regiments plus 64 regular cavalry regiments and no less than 52 regiments of Cossack auxiliary cavalry. When mobilized with reservists and fully fleshed out this army amounted to 3,115,000 men in the front lines when war was declared on August 3rd, 1914. Read more: "The Imperial Russian army of 1914: The Tsarist army of World War One was referred to as The Russian Steamroller \| Suite101.com" - http://militaryhistory.suite101.com/...xzz0Ewrn5FLn&A With over 3 million men in uniform who needs accuracys. I will term it "Manually operated combined unit synthesized automatic area accurate fire effect" MOCUSAAAFE for those of you from the FART academy.

October 6, 2009, 08:48 PM	#31
tater134 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2009 Location: NE,PA Posts: 390	I havent ordered one of the Vz24's yet but I did get to handle one at a local shop that was one of the recent AIM rifles and it was in very nice condition.It was refurbed but looked great and had a good bore.

October 7, 2009, 10:02 AM	#33
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Does anyone know what the Russians did with all the capture screws????

July 17, 2010, 07:42 AM	#34
zenithman2003 Junior Member Join Date: July 17, 2010 Posts: 1	I just purchased a VZ24 from AIM this week and it is fantastic. Excellent shape, bore, and bluing. Bolt is smooth smooth smooth. I paid the 10 dollar hand pick fee. Ordered a sling off of ebay. I also ordered a tin of 8mm with it and can't wait to try it out.

July 17, 2010, 05:11 PM	#35
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Is the VZ 24 Action an intermediate leinght like the Yugo 24 47 ?