needed accessories?

Newton24b · April 10, 2011, 12:00 AM

this is a post for input on some ideas i have pertaining to these weapons.

WHat kinds of things do we actually want or need in this field of endeavour?

lead hollowpoints that will work in your gun? i mean hollow point roundballs, i actually have some designs.

want a cartridge conversion for your navy caliber that will use an actual cartridge case that uses a .375 or .380 projectile you normally load into your revolver?

single shot conversions for single shot pistols or rifles?
any old item you want reinvented? i have hundreds of ideas but need input on what to expand upon.

ofitg · April 10, 2011, 01:28 AM

Bullet moulds.....

Years ago I bought a mould for a .54 ring-tail Sharps bullet, but I don't know if anybody makes them anymore....

I converted a Uberti '51 Navy to .38 S&W using a kit available in the 80s, and I was lucky enough to find a mould for a .380 heeled bullet.... again, I don't know if they're available nowadays.

How about a mould for .451 hollow-base, cone-shaped 65-gr slugs, stackable to make triplex loads for .44 percussion revolvers?

MJN77 · April 10, 2011, 07:52 AM

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Bullet moulds

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Hawg · April 10, 2011, 03:22 PM

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lead hollowpoints that will work in your gun? i mean hollow point roundballs

I don't see the point and keeping them straight when loading would be difficult.

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want a cartridge conversion for your navy caliber that will use an actual cartridge case that uses a .375 or .380 projectile you normally load into your revolver?

Where are you going to get cases?

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How about a mould for .451 hollow-base, cone-shaped 65-gr slugs, stackable to make triplex loads for .44 percussion revolvers?

Again, I fail to see the point.

MJN77 · April 10, 2011, 05:41 PM

What I was referring to, were bullet moulds that cast bullets like the ones 150 years ago, (size/shape). All I have been able to find is the LEE type conical moulds. They seem too small for my guns. They work, but they don't seem to fill the chamber.

Hawg · April 10, 2011, 05:52 PM

Yeah original style molds would be neat but would have to be bottom sprue for those pointy bullets.

Bishop Creek · April 10, 2011, 08:23 PM

Expensive, but really good conical bullet mold custom made by Lee:

http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.a...d-6d9c2d504d33

ofitg · April 10, 2011, 08:58 PM

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Again, I fail to see the point.

I was just thinking that three 65-gr projectiles from each chamber might even the odds against galloping jackrabbits.....

Hawg · April 10, 2011, 09:09 PM

I would think if hollow based and stacked would bulk up and fuse together in barrel.

ofitg · April 10, 2011, 09:34 PM

I played with this idea back in the 80s, didn't have any problem with the slugs sticking together. As best as I can remember, dispersion was about one foot wide at a distance of 50 feet.

arcticap · April 10, 2011, 09:57 PM

1. A C&B loading press for most caliber revolvers at a reasonable price.
Having optional wad cutter attachments for it would be a real plus.
The press should have an adjustable depth stop and be portable.

2. Another desirable item would be something similar to the Lodestar System. It consists of a shuttle loader for rapidly dispensing powder into cylinders, a syringe with an attachment to easily dispense petroleum jelly lube and a capper that fits revolvers.
The inventor reportedly couldn't get anyone to manufacture the shuttle because of the high production cost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkThYWJpRE

3. Manufacture "Clembert pins" for Ruger Old Armies:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show....php?t=370620&

4. Affordable replacement percussion cylinders for the Ruger Old Army.

Newton24b · April 12, 2011, 02:21 AM

I already have one good source of a parent cartridge, i merely have to calculate the standard deviation of the chamber of the revolver in two ways
1. standard deviation between chambers in a single cylinder
2. standard deviation from the factory specifications.

once that is done i merely figure out which of my two or three parent cartridges will work.

as to the hollowpoint round ball, the engagement with the rifling will make it a short range affair. any longer ranges would violate proprietary information.

April 10, 2011, 12:00 AM	#1
Newton24b Junior member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Posts: 974	needed accessories? this is a post for input on some ideas i have pertaining to these weapons. WHat kinds of things do we actually want or need in this field of endeavour? lead hollowpoints that will work in your gun? i mean hollow point roundballs, i actually have some designs. want a cartridge conversion for your navy caliber that will use an actual cartridge case that uses a .375 or .380 projectile you normally load into your revolver? single shot conversions for single shot pistols or rifles? any old item you want reinvented? i have hundreds of ideas but need input on what to expand upon.

April 10, 2011, 09:57 PM	#11
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	1. A C&B loading press for most caliber revolvers at a reasonable price. Having optional wad cutter attachments for it would be a real plus. The press should have an adjustable depth stop and be portable. 2. Another desirable item would be something similar to the Lodestar System. It consists of a shuttle loader for rapidly dispensing powder into cylinders, a syringe with an attachment to easily dispense petroleum jelly lube and a capper that fits revolvers. The inventor reportedly couldn't get anyone to manufacture the shuttle because of the high production cost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkThYWJpRE 3. Manufacture "Clembert pins" for Ruger Old Armies: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show....php?t=370620& 4. Affordable replacement percussion cylinders for the Ruger Old Army. Last edited by arcticap; April 10, 2011 at 10:06 PM.

April 10, 2011, 01:28 AM	#2
ofitg Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Posts: 102	Bullet moulds..... Years ago I bought a mould for a .54 ring-tail Sharps bullet, but I don't know if anybody makes them anymore.... I converted a Uberti '51 Navy to .38 S&W using a kit available in the 80s, and I was lucky enough to find a mould for a .380 heeled bullet.... again, I don't know if they're available nowadays. How about a mould for .451 hollow-base, cone-shaped 65-gr slugs, stackable to make triplex loads for .44 percussion revolvers?

April 10, 2011, 05:41 PM	#5
MJN77 Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2009 Location: on a hill in West Virginia Posts: 789	What I was referring to, were bullet moulds that cast bullets like the ones 150 years ago, (size/shape). All I have been able to find is the LEE type conical moulds. They seem too small for my guns. They work, but they don't seem to fill the chamber.

April 10, 2011, 05:52 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Yeah original style molds would be neat but would have to be bottom sprue for those pointy bullets.

April 10, 2011, 08:23 PM	#7
Bishop Creek Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Posts: 566	Expensive, but really good conical bullet mold custom made by Lee: http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.a...d-6d9c2d504d33

April 10, 2011, 09:09 PM	#9
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	I would think if hollow based and stacked would bulk up and fuse together in barrel.

April 10, 2011, 09:34 PM	#10
ofitg Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Posts: 102	I played with this idea back in the 80s, didn't have any problem with the slugs sticking together. As best as I can remember, dispersion was about one foot wide at a distance of 50 feet.

April 12, 2011, 02:21 AM	#12
Newton24b Junior member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Posts: 974	I already have one good source of a parent cartridge, i merely have to calculate the standard deviation of the chamber of the revolver in two ways 1. standard deviation between chambers in a single cylinder 2. standard deviation from the factory specifications. once that is done i merely figure out which of my two or three parent cartridges will work. as to the hollowpoint round ball, the engagement with the rifling will make it a short range affair. any longer ranges would violate proprietary information.