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January 20, 2013, 01:19 PM | #1 |
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The Opposition to Obama and Gun-Control is Rapidly Growing.
Jay Blackwell, one of the Examiner.com civil rights reporters has taken on the task of reporting the national opposition to the Obama Administrations efforts to create new gun-bans in the wake of the horrific Sandy Hook shooting. The list below is taken from; Sheriffs will not enforce Obama gun control laws; List reasons for defiance - Long Island Civil Liberties | Examiner.com. I've checked his links and verified his compilation (but don't take my word or Jay's - do your own research).
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He puts himself and his potential political future above all else - even if it means refusing to take a stance on an issue, out of fear of letting voters know what he really thinks. He's a politician, not a Sheriff.
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Even as a youngster with an "authority problem" or lack of respect for many LEOs because of their actions, I sincerely commend the ones sticking up for our rights. My county is not on the list, but I'm planning on doing the research to see my sheriffs opinion and asking him to take the same stand. There is a county close to mine on the list, and in a place like southwest MO, I would expect him to do the same. Thanks for posting.
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Its good to know that at least some people recognize that the Supreme Court doesn't have to rule on every single unconstitutional matter... We the people also retain that power in actions just like this...
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Adding to the list: First in the Nation: Beaufort County, NC Passes Gun Law Nullification Resolution – Tenth Amendment Center Blog.
Granted that at this point, all of this is a symbolic gesture. However, if it spreads far and wide enough, even such symbolism takes on the air of legitimacy. |
January 20, 2013, 02:14 PM | #6 |
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In Virginia there is a bill: HB2340
Prevent any agency, political subdivision, or employee of Virginia from assisting the Federal government of the United States in any investigation, prosecution, detention, arrest, search, or seizure, under the authority of any federal statute enacted, or Executive Order or regulation issued, after December 31, 2012, infringing the individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms by imposing new restrictions on private ownership or private transfer of firearms, firearm magazines, ammunition, or components thereof. My Sheriff hasn't spoken out against gun prohibition and I don't really expect him to, but it would be nice, I sure like HB2340 |
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The other Alabama ones are accounted for. I believe a few others will probably announce as well. I don't know how I feel about Sheriffs not enforcing the law. I don't think they should have the privilege of picking and choosing. Still support is nice.
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After another, more thorough, search, I've stricken the name of Ana Franklin.
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My Sheriff told me he has received LOTS of phone calls and emails from people who are angry about Obama's attempt at gun grabbing. He told me that he takes orders from no one--except his wife.
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January 20, 2013, 07:53 PM | #11 |
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Great to hear, especially since my state is represented. I thing the pendelum started to swing back in the pro-gun direction a couple of weeks ago, but now is not the time to let up on our efforts.
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Wasn't there some issue with the Branch Davidians near Waco where the Sheriff didn't want to try and make any moves on David Koresh? I can't remember the details as the time elapsed has made my memory fuzzy on it. Wasn't that why the feds then went to the "He's got machine guns in violation of federal law" and moved in the ATF folks? I had also heard that unless it's on federal land, federal law enforcement agencies must get permission from the local sheriff to conduct operations outside of federally owned land/buildings. I'm not sure if that's true or not. How would they be stopped, such as in a situation similar to Waco or Ruby Ridge?
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January 20, 2013, 11:23 PM | #14 |
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I don't know if "offensive" is the right idea. Definitely proactive though
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It's also time to open up the pocket book and contribute to your favorite lobby. It's going to be an expensive fight
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Politico.com is a good source for evaluations of the chances of significant gun control.
Here's a piece reporting on Bill Clinton cautioning against snooty attitudes and pushing for more gun control: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...43.html?hp=l21 Quote:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/politi...79.html?hp=l14 I think that the antigun forces are having a group-think that the entire country is behind them. They ignore listening to the opposition and discard it as nuts (see Biden), but Clinton is warning them as is Reid.
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Not to be political, but Clinton has been way worse out of office than he was in office.
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We were frozen out of the discussion process, lampooned by the media, and mocked at nearly every turn. To this day, I wonder if there might not have been less anger over the ban if they simply hadn't been so cocky and rude about it. In any case, Clinton's words were worth considering, but the anti-gunners think they've got the wind at their back, so I doubt he'll be heeded. (Towards the bottom of the first page of that article, there's a link to a photo gallery of guns that were banned in 1994. One of them is the FN FAL, for which they provide a picture of a PS-90.)
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Truthfully it is not as bad this time I think. It is a lot harder to keep spreading lies with the internet these days. You can spread a lie faster but the truth is much closer behind.
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Keep in mind that the County Sheriff is the highest elected law enforcement agent in the country, therefore it is a political office. I support their stance fully.
Now we have to figure out how much of this is politics, although if memory serves there are a few Supreme Court descisions that decree states and counties have no power to enforce federal statutes directly.
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Those who have made a career of abridging and individual's right to firearms are a very different sort of person. While we may not find their arguments are consistent with data or well reasoned, the "anti-gunners" are routinely convinced that they are correct not just factually but morally. This makes flexible and deft handling of public opinion very difficult for them. Sandy Hook certainly represented an opportunity for advocates of that position, but I would not think those advocates will have the inclination to follow Clinton's advice.
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I got this reply from my sheriff...so we could add Ravalli County, MT to the list possibly. Still not sure to what extent this is political or real, but it's something..and should be published in our local papers soon with further details.
Dear [jpcmt], Thank you for your email. I have received several emails and calls, asking the same questions, over the past few days. As a result, I am working on a letter which I will submit to our local papers. [jpcmt], I have spoken publicly, on many occasions, regarding my stance on the 2nd Amendment, and gun control in general. That stance has never changed. As long as I am the sheriff in Ravalli County, this office will never enforce unconstitutional laws, nor will we ever be involved in the confiscation of guns from law abiding citizens. Moreover, we will not stand idly by, and watch any other agency do so. For lack of time I will leave it at that, and hope the above answers your questions. Please do look for a letter from me in our news papers, and don’t hesitate to send another email, to this address, if you have further questions. Thank you again, for your very respectful email. Best, Sheriff Chris Hoffman Ravalli County Sheriffs Office 205 Bedford Suite G Hamilton, Montana 59840 406-375-4060 Fax: 406-375-4065 [email protected] |
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I came across these 2 law enforcement officers who have said they won't enforce any measure which they consider unconstitutional:
Sheriff Jerry Parsley Clark County, IL Police Chief Mark Kessler of Gilberton, Pennsylvania |
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