Old Dominion students petition to carry weapons

**Spats McGee** · November 9, 2010, 10:58 AM

As I was browsing cnn.com this morning, I ran across a headline about students at Old Dominion University petitioning to be allowed to carry weapons on campus. More specifically, the petition requests that holders of valid CCW licenses be allowed to carry on campus.

The story is here: http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_n...-carry-weapons

The petition is here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/Old...ed-Carry-Safe/

aarondhgraham · November 9, 2010, 11:22 AM

Because the Oklahoma State University newspaper,,,
Ran a similar article this morning.

That article must have been sitting there waiting,,,
It ran beside a report of a shooting just off campus last night.

Apparently a student was shot in the lag at his house,,,
The perp stole his laptop computer and fled onto the campus.

cannonfire · November 9, 2010, 01:02 PM

Especially with that shooting at Univ. of Texas recently, I wouldn't be surprised if more petitions start showing up. It seems that the notion of CCW on campuses is becoming rather popular.

KLRANGL · November 9, 2010, 04:39 PM

Wow, how did I not know about this?
Must be doing a bad job with advertising this to students...

dusterdude · November 9, 2010, 07:41 PM

groovy

Glenn E. Meyer · November 10, 2010, 10:04 AM

TX may take this up again also. The problem is being blocked in the legislature by business interests and (not to be political) by, surprisingly, old Republicans not responsive to the people.

Another issue is whether the bills only affect public colleges or also cover private schools. If not, the privates may still ban and put up a target sign. Of course, if the privates are not allowed to ban - this lights up the ever popular 'private property' folks - and my opinion on them has been expressed before when it comes to the basic right of self-defense if you are business open to the public.

KLRANGL · November 10, 2010, 11:31 AM

Glenn, could you point me in the direction of your opinion? I used to be pro private property, but now I'm undecided...

AlabamaFamilyMan · November 10, 2010, 11:59 AM

I am VERY private property gung ho!

However, to clarify...

In parking lots, when the business allows me to park my car on their lot, whether I am an employee or a customer, they have allowed MY private property (vehicle) onto THEIR private property. MY private property rights should rule INSIDE my private property.

To extend, as I have read somewhere, often, the subject of personal rights is, at the root, the right of private property, that is, I am MY private property, not to be tampered with. So, a gun on MY private property (my person) should STILL be inviolable on SOMEONE ELSE's private property (business).

AFM

Peter Carr · November 10, 2010, 10:51 PM

I found out through the Arms and the Law website, that there was oral arguments in a case dealing with George Mason University's gun ban that was posted here awhile back ( The Arguments were on Nov. 1.). Someone from a group called gunleaders. com attended the arguments and posted on their blog what happened at the oral arguments here:http://www.gunleaders.com/blog/2010/...e-court-today/

It appears the lawsuit is by a non student, but if the court rules against GMU it would probably affect students as well.

mak52580 · December 2, 2010, 02:43 AM

Let's hope this passes. It would be a great precedent-setting moment for the Commonwealth. We certainly don't need another Virginia Tech on our hands.

November 9, 2010, 10:58 AM	#1
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Old Dominion students petition to carry weapons As I was browsing cnn.com this morning, I ran across a headline about students at Old Dominion University petitioning to be allowed to carry weapons on campus. More specifically, the petition requests that holders of valid CCW licenses be allowed to carry on campus. The story is here: http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_n...-carry-weapons The petition is here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/Old...ed-Carry-Safe/

November 9, 2010, 11:22 AM	#2
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I wonder if it's a concerted effort,,, Because the Oklahoma State University newspaper,,, Ran a similar article this morning. That article must have been sitting there waiting,,, It ran beside a report of a shooting just off campus last night. Apparently a student was shot in the lag at his house,,, The perp stole his laptop computer and fled onto the campus. __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

November 9, 2010, 04:39 PM	#4
KLRANGL Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 958	Wow, how did I not know about this? Must be doing a bad job with advertising this to students... __________________ And it's Killer Angel... as in the book

November 10, 2010, 10:04 AM	#6
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	TX may take this up again also. The problem is being blocked in the legislature by business interests and (not to be political) by, surprisingly, old Republicans not responsive to the people. Another issue is whether the bills only affect public colleges or also cover private schools. If not, the privates may still ban and put up a target sign. Of course, if the privates are not allowed to ban - this lights up the ever popular 'private property' folks - and my opinion on them has been expressed before when it comes to the basic right of self-defense if you are business open to the public. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

November 10, 2010, 11:31 AM	#7
KLRANGL Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 958	Glenn, could you point me in the direction of your opinion? I used to be pro private property, but now I'm undecided... __________________ And it's Killer Angel... as in the book

November 9, 2010, 07:41 PM	#5
dusterdude Member Join Date: September 28, 2010 Location: hopewell va Posts: 73	groovy

November 10, 2010, 11:59 AM	#8
AlabamaFamilyMan Member Join Date: August 13, 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 30	private property... I am VERY private property gung ho! However, to clarify... In parking lots, when the business allows me to park my car on their lot, whether I am an employee or a customer, they have allowed MY private property (vehicle) onto THEIR private property. MY private property rights should rule INSIDE my private property. To extend, as I have read somewhere, often, the subject of personal rights is, at the root, the right of private property, that is, I am MY private property, not to be tampered with. So, a gun on MY private property (my person) should STILL be inviolable on SOMEONE ELSE's private property (business). AFM

November 10, 2010, 10:51 PM	#9
Peter Carr Junior Member Join Date: April 7, 2010 Posts: 4	I found out through the Arms and the Law website, that there was oral arguments in a case dealing with George Mason University's gun ban that was posted here awhile back ( The Arguments were on Nov. 1.). Someone from a group called gunleaders. com attended the arguments and posted on their blog what happened at the oral arguments here:http://www.gunleaders.com/blog/2010/...e-court-today/ It appears the lawsuit is by a non student, but if the court rules against GMU it would probably affect students as well.

December 2, 2010, 02:43 AM	#10
mak52580 Member Join Date: September 4, 2010 Location: Falls Church, VA Posts: 27	Let's hope this passes. It would be a great precedent-setting moment for the Commonwealth. We certainly don't need another Virginia Tech on our hands.