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December 20, 2012, 05:27 PM | #151 |
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I do not ordinarily write letters for my own causes and the other than my ordinary NRA dues I do not contribute money to political causes. For this issue, I will depart from my pattern and work for the defeat of people who held their fingers to the wind to inform their change of heart.
I can understand not making a specific civil rights argument at an inopportune moment for the purpose of preserving one's career. However, there is a material difference between staying silent when words will not suffice and affirmatively saying the wrong thing.
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December 21, 2012, 06:57 AM | #153 |
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Young inner city "thugs" get the easy, accomodating treatment, too.
Everyone works hard to avoid upsetting the little Snoop Dog. This kid doesn't take "no" for an answer, and the staff make darn sure to avoid that word! Then, the kid ages out of school..... and all bets are off. Watch your back. |
December 21, 2012, 09:38 AM | #154 | |
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..... My NRA membership had lapsed last month... been planning to renew, just been procrastinating.... The day of this horrible tragedy, I went online and paid the $35... The NRA is going to need our continued help and support more than ever, NOW. Regardless of what you may think of some of the politics within the organization, we need them- so JOIN NOW, if you are not a member...and if you're like me and have let it lapse, RENEW... Our voices MUST be heard over the minority, but very vocal, opponents to our Second Amendment rights. |
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December 21, 2012, 10:53 AM | #155 | |
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http://www.guns.com/2012/12/20/brown...s-in-36-hours/
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Ammo is scarce - 9, 45 and 223 - gone. But there was alot of 40 SW - go figure.
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December 21, 2012, 11:15 AM | #156 |
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Mayor Bloomberg is now on record saying he is a strong supporter of the second amendment.
“I don’t think there’s anybody that’s defended the Second Amendment as much as I have, Ray,” Mr. Bloomberg said to a caller who asked him why he was “so against” the constitutional passage . “I think you have a perfect right to buy weapons and keep them for protection or for sport. We have tried to make sure that you have it. Bloomberg: No One Has ‘Defended the Second Amendment as Much as I Have’ Forgive me for doubting the Honorable Mayor Bloomberg's record on advocating for the RKBA. This was the first I ever heard of that notion. At least we now have Bloomberg, Obama and McCarthy, on record, acknowledging that the right to own firearms for self defense exists.
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December 21, 2012, 11:19 AM | #157 |
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So when will Bloomberg argue for easing the gun laws for NYC for home protection. Right now, it is almost impossible to get a gun for home protection in the city.
But that's an interesting change that can be played. Let Mike say that he has no problem with folks having the myriad of less than 10 round handguns at home in NYC. Lots of folks would be happy with 1911s or the current compact 9 mm guns.
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December 21, 2012, 01:22 PM | #158 |
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Mayor Bloomberg doesn't understand or acknowledge the intent of 2A: taking up arms against an oppressive government. Back in the day, home protection was taken for granted, logically assumed.
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December 21, 2012, 01:48 PM | #159 |
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He can have my 20 ounce soda when he pries it from my cold, satiated hand.
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December 21, 2012, 01:53 PM | #160 |
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Bloomberg wanted Obama to circumvent congress in order bring about tougher gun laws. He doesn't seem to care, or understand the system of checks and balances.
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December 21, 2012, 04:19 PM | #161 |
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Obama posted a YouTube response to the AWB petition.
Destroy it with thumbs down please. Tell your friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=u5ynVMBxOus |
December 25, 2012, 01:36 PM | #162 |
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Another gun friendly senator sees the light!
http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...474.html?hp=r2 Geez. Do you have principles or not? The Senator was chosen as a replacement to perhaps bring more conservative folks back to the Democrats. Sorry to be political for a touch but this is explanatory. Upstate is not NYC. However, if she has national ambitions then she has to march lock-step with the national party. Will this act against her - we will see when she runs again?
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December 25, 2012, 02:14 PM | #163 |
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Kay Bailey - hey - you are from TX.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...6pLid%3D249428 Thanks alot. A point is that many politicians have little knowledge of issues beyond sound bites. They will then switch opinions for emotional flares of the moment. This is well known in the decision making literature. The we have to do something mantra takes over in a fast mode as compared to longer rational thought processes. They also feel self-important and have to say something on the tube. But there aren't tubes anymore - on the Plasma screen or LED?
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December 25, 2012, 02:28 PM | #164 |
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"In that article, Gillibrand said the Second Amendment itself allowed for regulations of weapons.
“As someone who believes in the Constitution and an individual’s right to bear arms, I believe the first place we should look for answers is in the Second Amendment itself,” she wrote, adding, “The words ‘well-regulated’ prove the Founding Fathers themselves understood the need to have reasonable limits." Uh...didn't heller conclude that well regulated meant well trained? |
December 25, 2012, 09:50 PM | #165 |
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What they say in the press and what actually happens are two different things.
I really wonder if all those stating support for a nationwide AWB will end up pushing for a bill to clear committee and hit the floor for a vote. They could very easily state a desire for a ban and then work behind the scenes to ensure it never actually comes up for a vote (where they'd have to declare a side and be sure to lose votes one way or the other), then just blame the gun lobby for quashing it (we'll be the bad guys, but we've ALWAYS been the bad guys in this discussion). Moreover, it will still have to clear the House (not a given) as well as get enough support to avoid a Senate filibuster (ditto). I'm not saying a ban is impossible, but it's not a foregone conclusion. The more we contact our legislators the more likely it is that there won't be anything passing and getting signed into law. |
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A panel! And not just any panel, but a Blue Ribbon panel! Sounds pretty serious, right? [cue obnoxious buzzer] If I'm a politician, and I want to be perceived as taking action on an issue without actually taking any action, I'll refer the matter to a panel. For several months, the panel will dicker. They'll do research. They might conduct some interviews. After that, they'll present a nice little report in a pretty font with some graphs and charts. And that's about it.
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"If I'm a politician, and I want to be perceived as taking action on an issue without actually taking any action, I'll refer the matter to a panel. For several months, the panel will dicker. They'll do research. They might conduct some interviews. After that, they'll present a nice little report in a pretty font with some graphs and charts. And that's about it."
In announcing the panel (I'm sure Obama's speech is online), he specifically stated that it would NOT but such a superficial panel. But, I hope you are correct Tom. |
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A Back-burner AWB that never gets out of committee would please me just fine.
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December 26, 2012, 12:37 AM | #170 |
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If this backburner stuff is true, itll be the second thing I've liked Obama do as president. The first was get us out of Iraq
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Don't forget that Biden was supposed to have authored the '94 ban, & it passed.
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Thus,' progun folks ' could support it but OH, DEAR - we couldn't vote on it. So it might happen hear. Make a fuss and let public interest decay.
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It's going to be somewhat bipartisan on both sides- small minorities of both parties siding with the other side out of their own political realities. Despite the high emotion level on this issue, I don't see either party cracking the whip on their members to get everybody on board. It's not the hill the Democrats want to die on and the Republicans have hardly been an across the board benefit to the right to keep and bear arms. Meanwhile, they already have a fantastic scapegoat to blame if nothing gets done- us. They'll be quite happy to do nothing and blame the NRA and all gun owners. |
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