Anyone compete in Back-Up Gun Division in IDPA?

HKguy9 · June 2, 2002, 11:46 PM

Anyone?

braindead0 · June 3, 2002, 07:29 AM

I did my first COF in BU gun division..technically. I may compete in BUG division if our local place decides to run any, but there doesn't seem to be too much interest in it.

Jim Watson · June 3, 2002, 09:14 AM

Not a real common event, but I shoot in them whenever offered. One area club did a Progressive BUG Blast last year with a BUG event at every regular match for several months.
As you might expect, the biggest gun allowed does best. Things like Colt OACP, Glock 26, and 3" K-frame .38s. I did well in the BUG Blast shooting my Colt Government .380, second only to an Expert with a Glock. A friend with an old Colt Pocket .32 did very well, too.

Tough DA triggers and DA-SA transition on things like PPKs and Makarovs hurt their performance on the range.
Snubby .38s were pretty well out of contention.

We ought to do more. BUG matches can teach you a lot about your convenient hideout guns.

vincent · June 3, 2002, 10:21 AM

Our club recently held an all BUG match and it was pretty fun. As mentioned it really makes you realize the weaknesses of the smaller guns. The IDPA rules say you can only have 5 round strings for BUG scenarios which I don't understand. Since so many people actually carry these guns, testing reload skills seems like a good idea. Anyway we followed the 5 shot rule and the match was still fun. Since I support bending the rule on 5 shot strings, I would recommend just taking your BUG legal pistol out to a local match and shooting it. The experience is worth it.

braindead0 · June 3, 2002, 11:09 AM

Just like to point out, my first COF I shot with a Makarov in .380 and got -0 on both strings (12rds first string, 18 second). The DA/SA transition on my mak isn't all that bad, I did cleanup and polish the trigger quite a bit thought.

Just wanted to stand up for the Mak ;-)

Dr.Rob · June 3, 2002, 12:21 PM

We run BUG stages now and again but not as a rule. We generally don't do reloads etc. Wish we did. A lot of people carry what the rules call "Bugs". Lets face it there are a LOT of people toting J-Frames and PPK's.

I use a Pa-63 or an SP101.

I have brought my Colt .25 before (talk about a last resort) But I only have 1 mag for it.

RickB · June 3, 2002, 01:05 PM

We do a BUG stage about every other match. Since a lot of people don't have IDPA-legal holsters or multiple mags/speedloaders for their BUG, we have the option of starting at low ready, and keep the round count low.

June 2, 2002, 11:46 PM	#1
HKguy9 Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2001 Posts: 2,132	Anyone compete in Back-Up Gun Division in IDPA? Anyone? __________________ P7M8, VP9

June 3, 2002, 07:29 AM	#2
braindead0 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: Canton, Oh Posts: 896	I did my first COF in BU gun division..technically. I may compete in BUG division if our local place decides to run any, but there doesn't seem to be too much interest in it. __________________ DoD# 2223 Meum scapha volitare plenum anguillae

June 3, 2002, 11:09 AM	#5
braindead0 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: Canton, Oh Posts: 896	Just like to point out, my first COF I shot with a Makarov in .380 and got -0 on both strings (12rds first string, 18 second). The DA/SA transition on my mak isn't all that bad, I did cleanup and polish the trigger quite a bit thought. Just wanted to stand up for the Mak ;-) __________________ DoD# 2223 Meum scapha volitare plenum anguillae

June 3, 2002, 12:21 PM	#6
Dr.Rob Staff Alumnus Join Date: July 28, 1999 Location: Denver Posts: 2,454	We run BUG stages now and again but not as a rule. We generally don't do reloads etc. Wish we did. A lot of people carry what the rules call "Bugs". Lets face it there are a LOT of people toting J-Frames and PPK's. I use a Pa-63 or an SP101. I have brought my Colt .25 before (talk about a last resort) But I only have 1 mag for it. __________________ You broke into the wrong Rec Room!

June 3, 2002, 09:14 AM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,564	Not a real common event, but I shoot in them whenever offered. One area club did a Progressive BUG Blast last year with a BUG event at every regular match for several months. As you might expect, the biggest gun allowed does best. Things like Colt OACP, Glock 26, and 3" K-frame .38s. I did well in the BUG Blast shooting my Colt Government .380, second only to an Expert with a Glock. A friend with an old Colt Pocket .32 did very well, too. Tough DA triggers and DA-SA transition on things like PPKs and Makarovs hurt their performance on the range. Snubby .38s were pretty well out of contention. We ought to do more. BUG matches can teach you a lot about your convenient hideout guns.

June 3, 2002, 10:21 AM	#4
vincent Member Join Date: March 22, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 30	Our club recently held an all BUG match and it was pretty fun. As mentioned it really makes you realize the weaknesses of the smaller guns. The IDPA rules say you can only have 5 round strings for BUG scenarios which I don't understand. Since so many people actually carry these guns, testing reload skills seems like a good idea. Anyway we followed the 5 shot rule and the match was still fun. Since I support bending the rule on 5 shot strings, I would recommend just taking your BUG legal pistol out to a local match and shooting it. The experience is worth it.

June 3, 2002, 01:05 PM	#7
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,519	We do a BUG stage about every other match. Since a lot of people don't have IDPA-legal holsters or multiple mags/speedloaders for their BUG, we have the option of starting at low ready, and keep the round count low.