Knife vs. D cell Mag-lite - Which would you choose? - Page 3

Bentonville · July 25, 2006, 09:11 PM

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BamaXD · July 25, 2006, 09:16 PM

What about that wonderful contraption that was the D-Cell Maglite w/ the one shot .410 shot gun? That'd beat a knife any day of the week. -BamaXD

samsmix · July 26, 2006, 03:27 AM

If a knife is just a tool, then a 6" fighting knife is a tool with a purpose. It would also be a CCW in most states. Now since either the knife or club is a deadly weapon, and the heavily favored knife is a CCW, WHY ARE WE NOT GUNNED UP HERE?

If you think you may need to defend your life, WHY HALF @$$ IT?

Is anyone with me on this?

Scribe · July 26, 2006, 03:46 AM

Over here a knife with a fixed or locking blade of more than three inches is illegal for street carry, period. A pointed article can get you into equal trouble with the law. A 4 cell maglite is not illegal , and lets face it, a maglite is not really a torch (Flash light), it's a cudgel that can be used as a torch.
By the way, in my view if you are facing two or more opponents and have to use a cudgel or edged weapon, and have the opportunity to be elsewhere, that is not cowardice, it's prudence. Put those running shoes on and Golf Lima Foxtrot.

As a side note, due to the edged weapon laws, our home grown junkies have taken to robbing people with large drill bits. Sufficiently threatening to intimidate, easy to explain or discard if stopped by Police, cheap and easy to acquire.

FRANK1669 · July 26, 2006, 12:16 PM

Against 2 people Maglite Hands down ant the resons why
1) Stuck knife- If you manage to stab someone deep enough with a knife you will play hell getting it out again , even if the Knife has blood grooves the suction makes you twist and yank to get it back out. thats if it doesent hit cartilage or bone.
2) Pain is what stops most people A good sharp knife cut IE slicing cut doesn't hurt.
3)don't use the maglight as a club think of it as a fencing style sword jab it into the Solar plexus or the trachea.
4) to be proficient with a knife you need to train with one, just like a firearm.
I have been traing in Judo for twice a week for three years and against two people attacking together I would still try the old heal toe exspress first

A_Fire_InsideR1 · July 27, 2006, 09:15 AM

the knife would be a better choice by far.

the only close combat use I could see the maglite coming in handy for is joint locks, but you would have to be doing some pretty impressive judo to incapacitate one guy with a maglite and still fend off the other.

with the knife, however, you pretty much just swing it real fast and you can keep them both at bay

Doc TH · July 27, 2006, 10:29 PM

Knife is the better choice:
1) even a glancing strike can disable via injury to muscle, tendons
2) large knife (7" or more) can amputate fingers, hands, etc. - I have seen this often enough in emergency rooms.
3) very few strikes with a baton will be disabling - you would have to hit bone or nerve trunks or the head; these are pretty limited targets - a hit on deltoid, biceps, etc may cause some pain but will not prevent use of that extremity
4) blood loss can be surprisiningly rapid from a large deep cut - this can end the fight much faster than you might believe
5) knife can be used to slash or thrust - the club for is most effective effective with a swinging blow, not a thrust, unless one is very skilled
6) if you are going to swing and not thrust a tomahawk or hatchet is quite deadly and a much better choice than a flashlight

wolfy692005 · August 21, 2006, 06:44 PM

mag lite, less chacnce of "killing" them with the lite but better chance of getting out of the situation ( mag lite is longer) and can break a nose or a knee cap a sure fight ender.. if it is night you can also temp,. blind them with the light

Snub357 · August 21, 2006, 06:50 PM

Knife.

Without question a better weapon.

IF you know how to use one.

Sharp is better than blunt.

July 25, 2006, 09:16 PM	#52
BamaXD Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: The 'Ham, AL. Posts: 104	What about that wonderful contraption that was the D-Cell Maglite w/ the one shot .410 shot gun? That'd beat a knife any day of the week. -BamaXD __________________ 1911 Mag, Twinkie, Twinkie, Cupcake, Primary Weapon Magazine?! There it is!

July 26, 2006, 03:27 AM	#53
samsmix Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2006 Location: Montana (Montucky?) Posts: 1,273	Once Again: If a knife is just a tool, then a 6" fighting knife is a tool with a purpose. It would also be a CCW in most states. Now since either the knife or club is a deadly weapon, and the heavily favored knife is a CCW, WHY ARE WE NOT GUNNED UP HERE? If you think you may need to defend your life, WHY HALF @$$ IT? Is anyone with me on this? __________________ You'll probably never NEED a gun. I hope you never do. But IF you do, you will need it worse than anything you've ever needed in your life. IF we're not supposed to eat animals, howcome God made 'em outta meat?

July 26, 2006, 12:16 PM	#55
FRANK1669 Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2006 Posts: 124	Against 2 people Maglite Hands down ant the resons why 1) Stuck knife- If you manage to stab someone deep enough with a knife you will play hell getting it out again , even if the Knife has blood grooves the suction makes you twist and yank to get it back out. thats if it doesent hit cartilage or bone. 2) Pain is what stops most people A good sharp knife cut IE slicing cut doesn't hurt. 3)don't use the maglight as a club think of it as a fencing style sword jab it into the Solar plexus or the trachea. 4) to be proficient with a knife you need to train with one, just like a firearm. I have been traing in Judo for twice a week for three years and against two people attacking together I would still try the old heal toe exspress first __________________ It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

July 27, 2006, 09:15 AM	#56
A_Fire_InsideR1 Member Join Date: December 7, 2005 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 19	the knife would be a better choice by far. the only close combat use I could see the maglite coming in handy for is joint locks, but you would have to be doing some pretty impressive judo to incapacitate one guy with a maglite and still fend off the other. with the knife, however, you pretty much just swing it real fast and you can keep them both at bay __________________ In order of accquisition: Mossberg 500 12 ga Ruger .357 Blackhawk Bisley CZ 75B 9mm You know when they have a fishing show on TV? They catch the fish and then let it go. They don't want to eat the fish, they just want to make it late for something. On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana?

July 27, 2006, 10:29 PM	#57
Doc TH Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Posts: 633	knife or maglite Knife is the better choice: 1) even a glancing strike can disable via injury to muscle, tendons 2) large knife (7" or more) can amputate fingers, hands, etc. - I have seen this often enough in emergency rooms. 3) very few strikes with a baton will be disabling - you would have to hit bone or nerve trunks or the head; these are pretty limited targets - a hit on deltoid, biceps, etc may cause some pain but will not prevent use of that extremity 4) blood loss can be surprisiningly rapid from a large deep cut - this can end the fight much faster than you might believe 5) knife can be used to slash or thrust - the club for is most effective effective with a swinging blow, not a thrust, unless one is very skilled 6) if you are going to swing and not thrust a tomahawk or hatchet is quite deadly and a much better choice than a flashlight

July 25, 2006, 09:11 PM	#51
Bentonville Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2002 Location: NC Posts: 345	euwwwwww....Gerrrrohssss.....

July 26, 2006, 03:46 AM	#54
Scribe Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2005 Location: England Posts: 249	Over here a knife with a fixed or locking blade of more than three inches is illegal for street carry, period. A pointed article can get you into equal trouble with the law. A 4 cell maglite is not illegal , and lets face it, a maglite is not really a torch (Flash light), it's a cudgel that can be used as a torch. By the way, in my view if you are facing two or more opponents and have to use a cudgel or edged weapon, and have the opportunity to be elsewhere, that is not cowardice, it's prudence. Put those running shoes on and Golf Lima Foxtrot. As a side note, due to the edged weapon laws, our home grown junkies have taken to robbing people with large drill bits. Sufficiently threatening to intimidate, easy to explain or discard if stopped by Police, cheap and easy to acquire.

August 21, 2006, 06:44 PM	#58
wolfy692005 Member Join Date: August 5, 2006 Location: lawndale, nc Posts: 46	mag lite, less chacnce of "killing" them with the lite but better chance of getting out of the situation ( mag lite is longer) and can break a nose or a knee cap a sure fight ender.. if it is night you can also temp,. blind them with the light __________________ Ride Hard, Ride Safe, Ride Often Wolfy and Peggerz

August 21, 2006, 06:50 PM	#59
Snub357 Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2002 Posts: 484	Knife. Without question a better weapon. IF you know how to use one. Sharp is better than blunt. __________________ [Insert prattle here]