WHAT is WCC 06 headstamp?

jal5 · September 17, 2009, 09:12 PM

I have some cases with this headstamp and a small circle with a cross in a circle? I thought they were 9mm luger?

Joe

Sevens · September 17, 2009, 09:13 PM

That little logo is the stamp for NATO.
WCC is Winchester, from 2006.

gwalchmai · September 18, 2009, 11:40 AM

WCC is Western Cartridge Company. The 2-digit number is the year of the military contract for the ammo. Circle cross is NATO stamp.

D. Manley · September 18, 2009, 01:57 PM

As other said, this will be military brass and the primers will be crimped. IMO, its worth the effort to swage the pockets...excellent brass in every respect.

jal5 · September 18, 2009, 02:09 PM

thanks for the explanation.

So usable for reloading the 9mm luger or not?

Joe

gwalchmai · September 18, 2009, 02:15 PM

Yes, it is useable, but the primers may be a little tight going in if you don't swage the pockets.

GunnyBunny · September 18, 2009, 02:22 PM

If you're going to get into it seriously you'll need one of these.............

http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/con...uper_Swage_600

I have one and it really does the trick!!

medalguy · September 18, 2009, 06:48 PM

Swaging the primer pocket is not really an option. If you want to get decent reloads without crushed primers, you absolutely have to remove the crimp. That can be done with several brands of primer pocket swagers (RCBS and Lee make them, I'm sure others do too) but as noted the absolutely best and easiest way is with the Dillon swager. They do cost about $90 but you could always buy one from Dillon, use it, and resell it on evilbay for probably just what you paid for it, maybe even more. Strange what people will pay.

jal5 · September 19, 2009, 06:59 PM

Funny thing is I don't remember the primer going in harder or anything than all the other cases?

I am developing a load for a wartime P38 pistol, and only had trouble cycling the one that was in the NATO round. I pulled it out after it jammed and looking closer, it looks a little bulgy at the bottom of the case compared to all the others.

Joe

D. Manley · September 19, 2009, 07:50 PM

The crimp on the 9MM WCC cases is not all that substantial. IME, just decapping them enables most cases to seat a new primer with no particular problem, it's just a small ratio that don't. Swaging pretty well makes them "feel" just like commercial brass going through the machine and eliminates the problem few.

Randy 1911 · September 20, 2009, 01:56 AM

I have seen some military brass that is not crimped. Maybe you got lucky Joe.

September 17, 2009, 09:12 PM	#1
jal5 Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 419	WHAT is WCC 06 headstamp? I have some cases with this headstamp and a small circle with a cross in a circle? I thought they were 9mm luger? Joe __________________ We live in the greatest country on Earth- always be thankful!

September 17, 2009, 09:13 PM	#2
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	That little logo is the stamp for NATO. WCC is Winchester, from 2006. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

September 18, 2009, 01:57 PM	#4
D. Manley Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2008 Posts: 299	As other said, this will be military brass and the primers will be crimped. IMO, its worth the effort to swage the pockets...excellent brass in every respect. __________________ *"Old School" ain't all bad...*

September 18, 2009, 02:09 PM	#5
jal5 Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 419	thanks for the explanation. So usable for reloading the 9mm luger or not? Joe __________________ We live in the greatest country on Earth- always be thankful!

September 18, 2009, 02:22 PM	#7
GunnyBunny Member Join Date: June 14, 2008 Location: Victoria, B.C. Posts: 43	If you're going to get into it seriously you'll need one of these............. http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/con...uper_Swage_600 I have one and it really does the trick!! __________________ CCW permit holder Idaho, Utah, Pennsylvania, Maine, and New Hampshire. I can carry in your country, but not my own.

September 18, 2009, 11:40 AM	#3
gwalchmai Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2001 Location: outside the perimeter Posts: 333	WCC is Western Cartridge Company. The 2-digit number is the year of the military contract for the ammo. Circle cross is NATO stamp.

September 18, 2009, 02:15 PM	#6
gwalchmai Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2001 Location: outside the perimeter Posts: 333	Yes, it is useable, but the primers may be a little tight going in if you don't swage the pockets.

September 18, 2009, 06:48 PM	#8
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,033	Swaging the primer pocket is not really an option. If you want to get decent reloads without crushed primers, you absolutely have to remove the crimp. That can be done with several brands of primer pocket swagers (RCBS and Lee make them, I'm sure others do too) but as noted the absolutely best and easiest way is with the Dillon swager. They do cost about $90 but you could always buy one from Dillon, use it, and resell it on evilbay for probably just what you paid for it, maybe even more. Strange what people will pay.

September 19, 2009, 06:59 PM	#9
jal5 Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 419	Funny thing is I don't remember the primer going in harder or anything than all the other cases? I am developing a load for a wartime P38 pistol, and only had trouble cycling the one that was in the NATO round. I pulled it out after it jammed and looking closer, it looks a little bulgy at the bottom of the case compared to all the others. Joe __________________ We live in the greatest country on Earth- always be thankful!

September 19, 2009, 07:50 PM	#10
D. Manley Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2008 Posts: 299	The crimp on the 9MM WCC cases is not all that substantial. IME, just decapping them enables most cases to seat a new primer with no particular problem, it's just a small ratio that don't. Swaging pretty well makes them "feel" just like commercial brass going through the machine and eliminates the problem few. __________________ *"Old School" ain't all bad...*

September 20, 2009, 01:56 AM	#11
Randy 1911 Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2009 Location: Western Arkansas Posts: 273	I have seen some military brass that is not crimped. Maybe you got lucky Joe. __________________ Been Reloading 27 Years NRA Member Member Old Fort Gun Club www.ofgc.org