My first AK is jamming constantly HELP ME PLEASE! - Page 2

TPAW · September 19, 2005, 05:58 PM

Henry Baker

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but would they allow the 762x39? Also, would I send it back to the company directly or do that through the dealer?

As for the 7.62x39, You'll have to ask at the range.
And I would go through the dealer. It's new, you bought it from him, the least he could do is send it back. Besides, because he sells Vector Arms, they will give him faster service. The company would not want to loose your dealer as a distributor of their product.
Also, read my previous post about the FMJ ammo issue.

Henry Baker · September 19, 2005, 06:12 PM

TPAW, you've hit what I like to call, "the nail on the head." The whole reason I got the AK is so I could abuse it with low maintainence and cheap ammo, for a good SHTF gun, and AK's are just so cool. Like I say the dealer is a good guy and I think he will try to accomidate me as best he can. I forgot to mention the magazine issue before, but for what it's worth I got 3 mags and they all work equally badly. The gun malfunctions the same whene loading one at a time with no mag inserted, so I don't think the magazines are the problem.

TPAW · September 19, 2005, 07:50 PM

Henry Baker

I would bring it to your dealer and send it back to the factory.
If your dealer fixes or alters anything and it still does not work right, Vector will tell you that he caused the problem which could void your warranty.
Have him ship it back to the manufacturer for repairs or a new rifle and be done with it.
Just make sure you articulate exactly what is happening and what the shell caseings look like with the marks and scratches on them.
Type out a letter and even draw a picture if it helps to explain what you are saying.
If possible, shoot a few rounds of ammo and send the caseings with the rifle.
A visual aid will speak more than words.
Good luck and let me know how you make out.

Henry Baker · September 19, 2005, 08:59 PM

You just described what I plan on doing to the letter. I'll post how it went tomorrow after I visit the dealer and again if I get word from the company.

Sounds like a plan,
Henry Baker

MeekAndMild · September 19, 2005, 09:01 PM

Er, are you sure you lubed it right?

Henry Baker · September 20, 2005, 03:29 PM

Well gentlemen, I just dropped my AK off at the gun shop. Tim, the owner, said he would send it in and contact me when he heard from the company. One strange thing though, he said it was one of the first of that type they produced. Is Vector arms a new company? Parhaps he meant that model. I'll post again whene I get some more information.

TPAW · September 20, 2005, 11:55 PM

Henry Baker

I really don't know very much about Vector Arms, but your on the right track.
Keep us informed.

Forseti · September 22, 2005, 12:12 AM

Check the feed ramp. A small item, usually rivoted inside the rifle just ahead of the magazine front feed lips, before the chamber. Is it loose? Worse would be if it wasn't even there...

Powderman · September 22, 2005, 12:39 AM

Sounds like a failure to extract.

Does the rifle cycle fully? If so, does it pick up a round from the magazine and try to feed it into the case that's in the chamber?

If it doesn't cycle fully, it's almost certainly the gas system that is the main cause. However, I don't think that this is the case, because you said that it fired and functioned on an irregular basis.

I believe that your problem might be:

1. Weak extractor spring
2. Gummed up extractor
3. Broken extractor

Disassemble the rifle, and look at the extractor. It should have a smooth, even edge. If it does not, replace the extractor.

Next, check under the edge of the extractor. Make sure it is clean and serviceable.

While you're at it, check the ejector, too. Make sure it functions the way it should.

To be on the safe side, take the whole assembly, clean well with a good solvent, or even better, blast it with brake cleaner (outside!!!

).

Then, lube with a light oil for the bolt and internals, and grease for the rails. Test fire for function.

If this doesn't work, Tapco sells complete bolt assemblies for $49.00 ea.

essexcounty · September 22, 2005, 11:12 AM

I'm slightly suprised. I switched to the AK platform a while ago, but my AK fed with all sorts of junk ammo. I can't recall a single malfunction and put 2K plusrounds through them. I think you've been given a good list of things to check. Good luck, Essex

Henry Baker · October 19, 2005, 03:41 PM

After weeks or waiting (my dealer was closed due to shot show) I finally got My AK back. The company said that they had to polish the feed ramp, some rail on the inside of the reciever, and a few other things. I'll post again after I shoot it this saturday. Hopefully it'll work this time.

Thanks for stopin in,
Henry Baker

September 19, 2005, 09:01 PM	#30
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	Er, are you sure you lubed it right? __________________ In a few years when the dust finally clears and people start counting their change there is a pretty good chance that President Obama may become known as The Great Absquatulator. You heard it first here on TFL.

September 22, 2005, 12:39 AM	#34
Powderman Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 2,166	Sounds like a failure to extract. Does the rifle cycle fully? If so, does it pick up a round from the magazine and try to feed it into the case that's in the chamber? If it doesn't cycle fully, it's almost certainly the gas system that is the main cause. However, I don't think that this is the case, because you said that it fired and functioned on an irregular basis. I believe that your problem might be: 1. Weak extractor spring 2. Gummed up extractor 3. Broken extractor Disassemble the rifle, and look at the extractor. It should have a smooth, even edge. If it does not, replace the extractor. Next, check under the edge of the extractor. Make sure it is clean and serviceable. While you're at it, check the ejector, too. Make sure it functions the way it should. To be on the safe side, take the whole assembly, clean well with a good solvent, or even better, blast it with brake cleaner (outside!!! ). Then, lube with a light oil for the bolt and internals, and grease for the rails. Test fire for function. If this doesn't work, Tapco sells complete bolt assemblies for $49.00 ea. __________________ Hiding in plain sight...

October 19, 2005, 03:41 PM	#36
Henry Baker Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 199	For those of you who remember my delema... After weeks or waiting (my dealer was closed due to shot show) I finally got My AK back. The company said that they had to polish the feed ramp, some rail on the inside of the reciever, and a few other things. I'll post again after I shoot it this saturday. Hopefully it'll work this time. Thanks for stopin in, Henry Baker

September 19, 2005, 06:12 PM	#27
Henry Baker Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 199	TPAW, you've hit what I like to call, "the nail on the head." The whole reason I got the AK is so I could abuse it with low maintainence and cheap ammo, for a good SHTF gun, and AK's are just so cool. Like I say the dealer is a good guy and I think he will try to accomidate me as best he can. I forgot to mention the magazine issue before, but for what it's worth I got 3 mags and they all work equally badly. The gun malfunctions the same whene loading one at a time with no mag inserted, so I don't think the magazines are the problem.

September 19, 2005, 07:50 PM	#28
TPAW Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2005 Posts: 2,860	Henry Baker I would bring it to your dealer and send it back to the factory. If your dealer fixes or alters anything and it still does not work right, Vector will tell you that he caused the problem which could void your warranty. Have him ship it back to the manufacturer for repairs or a new rifle and be done with it. Just make sure you articulate exactly what is happening and what the shell caseings look like with the marks and scratches on them. Type out a letter and even draw a picture if it helps to explain what you are saying. If possible, shoot a few rounds of ammo and send the caseings with the rifle. A visual aid will speak more than words. Good luck and let me know how you make out.

September 19, 2005, 08:59 PM	#29
Henry Baker Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 199	You just described what I plan on doing to the letter. I'll post how it went tomorrow after I visit the dealer and again if I get word from the company. Sounds like a plan, Henry Baker

September 20, 2005, 03:29 PM	#31
Henry Baker Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 199	Well gentlemen, I just dropped my AK off at the gun shop. Tim, the owner, said he would send it in and contact me when he heard from the company. One strange thing though, he said it was one of the first of that type they produced. Is Vector arms a new company? Parhaps he meant that model. I'll post again whene I get some more information.

September 20, 2005, 11:55 PM	#32
TPAW Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2005 Posts: 2,860	Henry Baker I really don't know very much about Vector Arms, but your on the right track. Keep us informed.

September 22, 2005, 12:12 AM	#33
Forseti Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2000 Posts: 201	Check the feed ramp. A small item, usually rivoted inside the rifle just ahead of the magazine front feed lips, before the chamber. Is it loose? Worse would be if it wasn't even there...

September 22, 2005, 11:12 AM	#35
essexcounty Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 646	I'm slightly suprised. I switched to the AK platform a while ago, but my AK fed with all sorts of junk ammo. I can't recall a single malfunction and put 2K plusrounds through them. I think you've been given a good list of things to check. Good luck, Essex