wilsons new 9mm

glock19er · June 21, 2006, 06:16 PM

does this look familar to anyone? i bought one of these back in 1996 when heritage arms had them for 215 dollars.now since it got wilson name on it they are charging 579 dollars for it.it just dont seem right to me or is it just me

Josh Aston · June 22, 2006, 07:27 AM

I hope they seriously overhauled the safety and trigger mechanism. The safety on my Heritage does nothing but make the trigger pull a little harder. I've never put a round through the pistol because I can't get it to chamber one. The striker doesn't start to cock until too late in the forward movement of the slide, so the rim of the cartridge catches on the protruding striker and stops all forward movement. Mine may be the only one that has that particular problem with the striker, but I've heard of many with the safety problem. Not to mention the manual safety that doesn't work is, as far as I can tell, the only safety the gun has.

Musketeer · June 22, 2006, 10:27 AM

I cannot see Wilson putting their name on anything they do not have faith in. With what they charge for a gun if it got out they were selling a faulty substandard firearm they would be in big trouble. I would bet this thing has been tested pretty well.

ScaryWoody · June 22, 2006, 03:15 PM

The South African ADP (which Wilson relabels) comes standard with a 15 round magazine. It is exported only with a 10 round magazine. It looks like it is just a straight import. I too hope that Wilson has at least modified that horrible safety and beefed up the gas piston assembly but I'm guessing not. I think the ADP has potential and Wilson would be a company to further develop it. I'm looking forward to a range report.

Josh, you should send your pistol (if you still have it) into Heritage Arms. It has a 10 year warrantee.

The Body Bagger · June 22, 2006, 09:34 PM

same thing Springfield did with the XD or should I say HS2000?

Earnest T. Bass · June 22, 2006, 10:08 PM

I don't know if it's reliable, but it sure is a contender for the "Fugliest Pistol Ever" championship...

choover · June 23, 2006, 02:50 AM

I thought their catalog says it has a wilson slide.

Josh Aston · June 23, 2006, 06:07 AM

Quote:

The South African ADP (which Wilson relabels) comes standard with a 15 round magazine. It is exported only with a 10 round magazine. It looks like it is just a straight import.

The pics of the magazines look identical to the one the Heritage uses and there's no way they could possibly hold 15 rds. At least not without some kind of extension. The dimensions are virtually identical to the GLock 26/27. The heritage did seem a bit smaller though because the slide wasn't as blocky and the grip was a bit thinner than the Glocks.

I've sent Wilson Combat an e-mail requesting some more info on the ADP and whether it had been redesigned since the Heritage days or if it was just a cosmetic make over. I'll let y'all know once I get a response.

mini14jac · June 23, 2006, 10:11 AM

If I recall, the original Heritage had a 10rd mag, and was only slightly bigger than a KelTec.
(And it sold for <$300!)

And yes, that is one ugly gun!

The Heritage wasn't that ugly to start with.
It just couldn't find it's place among polymer guns.

glock19er · June 23, 2006, 06:26 PM

comparing it to the pic.it looks pretty close of being the same thing.i think charging extra money for a name doesnt take the fact away that its still a 300 dollar gun when first came out.same gun,different names.

pietskiet · April 19, 2009, 07:19 PM

hi. I own a truvelo adp mk2 .40. 8round cap. The mk1 is crap. If you take it to a gunsmith and have the internal parts polished then it works 100%. Btw wilson is ova charging. I paid. 3900 rand and a glock went for 9000rand. I love my littel adp

PSP · April 20, 2009, 06:10 AM

This is one of the posts that scared me off.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...&highlight=adp

June 22, 2006, 09:34 PM	#5
The Body Bagger Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2004 Posts: 818	same thing Springfield did with the XD or should I say HS2000? __________________ Rock Out With Your Glock Out

June 23, 2006, 10:11 AM	#9
mini14jac Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2001 Location: The Volunteer State. Posts: 691	If I recall, the original Heritage had a 10rd mag, and was only slightly bigger than a KelTec. (And it sold for <$300!) And yes, that is one ugly gun! The Heritage wasn't that ugly to start with. It just couldn't find it's place among polymer guns. __________________ <><

June 23, 2006, 06:26 PM	#10
glock19er Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2005 Posts: 191	heritage arms comparing it to the pic.it looks pretty close of being the same thing.i think charging extra money for a name doesnt take the fact away that its still a 300 dollar gun when first came out.same gun,different names.

April 19, 2009, 07:19 PM	#11
pietskiet Member Join Date: April 19, 2009 Location: pretoria,South Africa Posts: 30	hi. I own a truvelo adp mk2 .40. 8round cap. The mk1 is crap. If you take it to a gunsmith and have the internal parts polished then it works 100%. Btw wilson is ova charging. I paid. 3900 rand and a glock went for 9000rand. I love my littel adp __________________ neva take to a gunfight a handgun that doesnt have a 4 infrount of it

June 22, 2006, 07:27 AM	#2
Josh Aston Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: North Pole Posts: 74	I hope they seriously overhauled the safety and trigger mechanism. The safety on my Heritage does nothing but make the trigger pull a little harder. I've never put a round through the pistol because I can't get it to chamber one. The striker doesn't start to cock until too late in the forward movement of the slide, so the rim of the cartridge catches on the protruding striker and stops all forward movement. Mine may be the only one that has that particular problem with the striker, but I've heard of many with the safety problem. Not to mention the manual safety that doesn't work is, as far as I can tell, the only safety the gun has.

June 22, 2006, 10:27 AM	#3
Musketeer Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2005 Posts: 3,733	I cannot see Wilson putting their name on anything they do not have faith in. With what they charge for a gun if it got out they were selling a faulty substandard firearm they would be in big trouble. I would bet this thing has been tested pretty well.

June 22, 2006, 03:15 PM	#4
ScaryWoody Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 368	The South African ADP (which Wilson relabels) comes standard with a 15 round magazine. It is exported only with a 10 round magazine. It looks like it is just a straight import. I too hope that Wilson has at least modified that horrible safety and beefed up the gas piston assembly but I'm guessing not. I think the ADP has potential and Wilson would be a company to further develop it. I'm looking forward to a range report. Josh, you should send your pistol (if you still have it) into Heritage Arms. It has a 10 year warrantee.

June 22, 2006, 10:08 PM	#6
Earnest T. Bass Junior member Join Date: June 13, 2006 Location: west of the mississippi Posts: 84	I don't know if it's reliable, but it sure is a contender for the "Fugliest Pistol Ever" championship...

June 23, 2006, 02:50 AM	#7
choover Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2006 Posts: 172	I thought their catalog says it has a wilson slide.

April 20, 2009, 06:10 AM	#12
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,487	This is one of the posts that scared me off. http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...&highlight=adp