December 3, 2002, 08:56 PM | #1 |
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becker & hollander
need help on this nic little gun
On righ side of frame it says Becker & Hollander. Weffenbau. Suhl on the left Selbstlade-Pistole,,beholla" 7.65 The logo BH is on the grips that have black checkering on them the barrel is 3 in with the gun being 6in overall the serial number is 37xx and there is a crown N mark next to it the saftey is just behind the top of the left grip dose any one know why there is a hole on both sides of the slide or how to take it down thanks for the help |
December 3, 2002, 10:28 PM | #2 |
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This is the Berholla made by Becker & Hollander of Suhl, Germany.
During WWI these were made by other manufacturers as a substitute weapon for the German military. Other names for it were Leonhardt or Menta. To disassemble remove the magazine. Use a hammer and a thin punch, and the gun well supported, drive the pin inside the hole in the slide, out from left to right. Push the slide back until the safety catch can be turned up into the notch in the lower edge of the slide, locking the slide back. Push the barrel straight back, (using a hammer if necessary and protecting the muzzle) so the dovetail section beneath the breech slides clear of it's mount in the frame. Once free ithe barrel is lifted clear. Grip the slide, depress the safety, and allow the slide to move forward and off the frame. Remove the recoil spring and it's guide. DO NOT strip further. Reassemble in the reverse. |
November 4, 2005, 08:44 PM | #3 |
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Additional marking on Beholla
Hello;
I have a "Beholla" that has been stamped with an additional mark "1920 R.Z.W." where the "Z" is smaller than the other characters. I believe this to be a war souvenir and wonder if this mark is placed by the US Military?? Can anyone tell me? http://fberardi.home.mindspring.com/files/rzw.jpg |
November 5, 2005, 09:17 AM | #4 |
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To add to dfariswheel's excellent information:
The Crown/N is a commercial nitro proof. If the pistol was taken into service, there will also be an ordnance acceptance stamp next to the proof. That stamp is a Crown/letter, the letter being in ornate script. There was a fourth called the Stenda, Stendawerke being the original designer. The Becker & Holländer is the most commonly encountered, from what I've seen. JT |
November 6, 2005, 12:50 AM | #5 |
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I have all the marks
This pistol has the "Crown-N" , "Crown-Script" and a mark that looks like a bird that I think represents Germany. I just wonder why that other "1920" mark was added.
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November 6, 2005, 09:34 AM | #6 |
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That's a question that would require someone knowledgable in these matters, such as specialized collectors. Try the Axis History Forum, or Jan Still's Luger Forum.
http://www.gunboards.com/luger/ http://forum.axishistory.com/ JT |
November 6, 2005, 01:16 PM | #7 |
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Thanks
I will try posting on those boards.. Thanks again
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November 11, 2005, 02:28 PM | #8 |
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The "1920" marking was applied to guns owned by the police and the small army authorized for the Weimar republic after WWI. It really is not a date applicable to the gun, only a reference to the 1920 law that regulated arms for government. I can't find "R.z.W." in my references, but it may be a reference to the law or a property mark for some governmental organization.
Jim |
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