Leaked images of the new striker fired HK 'P30' style pistol

Uncle Malice · February 22, 2014, 09:16 AM

We have the first images of the prototype for the new striker fired HK pistol. Thus far, it appears to be dubbed the SFP9 (striker fired pistol?) with similar ergonomics to the P30.

I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. It looks to have the same grip and use the same mags as the P30 - which is to say the grip should be very comfortable. The top half reminds me a lot of the Walther PPX/PPQ style, which really, shouldn't be a bad thing. It looks like the bore axis has been lowered a little, but not too much. That's a non issue for me though. I have never found my HK's to have much muzzle flip.

I'll admit that I'm not thrilled with what I'm seeing, though I can't necessarily explain why. I'll hold off judgement to see what the trigger is like. I guess the important part is making sure that it runs with the legendary HK reliability.

What say you? This is sure to be controversial.

Wwrhodes91 · February 22, 2014, 09:19 AM

Something looks off about it. The grip looks too narrow at the top or something.

Mystro · February 22, 2014, 09:22 AM

My gut feeling says no to its looks. If it has the typical HK trigger, then hell no.
The Walther PPQ is still top dog in my eyes and trigger finger.

Hook686 · February 22, 2014, 09:24 AM

It looks as ugly as a Glock to me.

Uncle Malice · February 22, 2014, 09:35 AM

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If it has the typical HK trigger, then hell no.

What do you consider a 'typical HK trigger'? The P7 is striker fired and has one of the best triggers available on any gun, ever.

I don't expect this to be as nice as the P7 trigger, but we'll see. I think LEM edges out any benefits the striker fired gun may bring... the only difference is that this one will probably be around $600-$650 instead of $900.

TunnelRat · February 22, 2014, 10:05 AM

Dude we still have no idea if these images are legit. I think it is misleading not to mention that these are supposed images of the new pistol. Just because someone shared them on the HK pro forums doesn't make them undeniable.

sigarms228 · February 22, 2014, 10:56 AM

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Dude we still have no idea if these images are legit. I think it is misleading not to mention that these are supposed images of the new pistol. Just because someone shared them on the HK pro forums doesn't make them undeniable.

I agree LOL. No sense getting in a tizzy over them. There are some very reliable sources over there and it makes sense to see someting from a source such as that.

Having said that I love my hammer fired HKs but don't really have any interest in a striker fired one. Personally I can't even see why they would make one given the options they offer now with LEM unless it strictly is to get to a lower price point with a striker fired pistol.

sigarms228 · February 22, 2014, 10:59 AM

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My gut feeling says no to its looks. If it has the typical HK trigger, then hell no.
The Walther PPQ is still top dog in my eyes and trigger finger.

I have a Walther PPQ and it is a stunning pistol. It also is a design that is well tested for over 15 years now being essentially a slightly modified variant of the Walther P99. First poly pistol with changeable backstraps I believe also. Hope to try out the longslide 5 inch barrel model soon.

PSP · February 22, 2014, 01:36 PM

I lean towards wanting a hammer. What I don't see is a decocker, which is something I'd prefer on a striker. I wonder why the two left side levers. Does it disassemble with or without a cocked striker? Otherwise looks like a P30. If it's as good a design as the P30 then it will be an excellent pistol. Wait and see.

Kevin_d77 · February 22, 2014, 01:52 PM

Looks exactly as I would imagine......just like a PPQ

glove · February 22, 2014, 02:20 PM

Looks like a Walther P-22 just larger.

kcub · February 22, 2014, 08:06 PM

You won't see HK try to make a gun out of pot metal, only Umarex.

IMightBeWrong · February 22, 2014, 10:21 PM

I like it. I had a PPQ and got rid of it a while back. Good trigger, but the P30 grip blows it away. Holding a PPQ and a P30 there is a definite difference in quality of materials and finish to me. This looks very interesting. If it has a trigger as crisp as the PPQs then I will likely find a way to budget one.

Uncle Malice · February 22, 2014, 10:43 PM

The more I see it, the more I'm starting to like it. I hope they get the trigger right. I'm pretty sure I'll pick one up.

I'm really considering a P30L V1 to compliment my V3 currently.

Fishbed77 · February 22, 2014, 11:40 PM

It looks like HK needs to start paying Walther some royalties.

Fishbed77 · February 22, 2014, 11:42 PM

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I lean towards wanting a hammer. What I don't see is a decocker, which is something I'd prefer on a striker.

Then get a P99AS.

TunnelRat · February 23, 2014, 12:06 AM

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It looks like HK needs to start paying Walther some royalties.

Given that the P30 came before the PPQ, and this is basically the looks of a P30 with a striker fired mechanism, I fail to see why.

shaunpain · February 23, 2014, 01:50 AM

While I'm sure that it will shoot fantastically, if it's even real, it is utterly unaesthetic. The ergonomics are pretty intriguing, but I don't I could ever get over how unappealing it looks. It really does hinge on that trigger.

Elerius · February 23, 2014, 02:17 AM

I hope this turns out to be a hoax, honestly. The market is flooded with striker fires and I'm tired of it. At least HK has continued to develop new guns that are hammer fired, along with Beretta and Sig which I think gives them a little extra respect.

What I'd like to see is a new gun come out with a metal frame from HK. When that happens, I'll be a lot more interested.

1stmar · February 23, 2014, 03:19 AM

I like it. The grip angle looks like it might be to sharp and the trigger reach may be a bit far for my smaller hands. Have to feel it. I prefer striker fired. What's the objection to them? I don't want da/sa or da only. The p7 was a striker fire, no? Didn't hk really lead this evolution?

kcub · February 23, 2014, 08:43 AM

I would imagine the Walther PPQ is eating into HK's bread-and-butter, European police agency contracts. I'm sure this new striker gun is aimed at competing for that market first and foremost.

Uncle Malice · February 23, 2014, 08:54 AM

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Another gun maker jumps into the striker fire pit
I hope this turns out to be a hoax, honestly. The market is flooded with striker fires and I'm tired of it. At least HK has continued to develop new guns that are hammer fired, along with Beretta and Sig which I think gives them a little extra respect.

What I'd like to see is a new gun come out with a metal frame from HK. When that happens, I'll be a lot more interested.

It's not a hoax. HK officially announced it was on the way at SHOT, they just didn't provide any photos.

HK has been producing polymer striker fired pistols since the 70's - quite some time before ANYONE else. They aren't exactly new to the game and this isn't their only new development.

A P30 subcompact is also on its way, which I AM super excited about.

Jim Watson · February 23, 2014, 09:26 AM

It looks to me like all the plastic molders, Glock, Smith, XD, Walther, and H&K are bringing out new models and scrambling desperately for smaller and smaller slices of the service and SD pistol pie.
The problem is, even a plastic pistol is a "durable good" and they have to either find new customers or convince the existing ones that their old guns are no good. A tough proposition, my Gen I G17 is as good as anything they are making now and a friend is still wedded to his Walther P99AS

sigp226wgerman · February 23, 2014, 09:27 AM

Not a fan. I like how the regular P30 looks, but this looks like a PPQ. For apme reason the PPQ reminds me of a plastic Hipoint.

Mystro · February 23, 2014, 10:20 AM

Just for a reference, a pic of my PPQ. I can certainly see the German similarities.
The reason the PPQ has such amazing trigger and that separates itself from all the others is that it is the ONLY totally pre cocked triggers. That is a major difference when you don't have to partially cock with each pull of the trigger.
As much as I love the HK, all mine are DA/SA and are on the USP platform.

February 22, 2014, 09:16 AM	#1
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Leaked images of the new striker fired HK 'P30' style pistol We have the first images of the prototype for the new striker fired HK pistol. Thus far, it appears to be dubbed the SFP9 (striker fired pistol?) with similar ergonomics to the P30. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. It looks to have the same grip and use the same mags as the P30 - which is to say the grip should be very comfortable. The top half reminds me a lot of the Walther PPX/PPQ style, which really, shouldn't be a bad thing. It looks like the bore axis has been lowered a little, but not too much. That's a non issue for me though. I have never found my HK's to have much muzzle flip. I'll admit that I'm not thrilled with what I'm seeing, though I can't necessarily explain why. I'll hold off judgement to see what the trigger is like. I guess the important part is making sure that it runs with the legendary HK reliability. What say you? This is sure to be controversial. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

February 22, 2014, 09:22 AM	#3
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	My gut feeling says no to its looks. If it has the typical HK trigger, then hell no. The Walther PPQ is still top dog in my eyes and trigger finger. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country"

February 22, 2014, 09:24 AM	#4
Hook686 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2005 Location: USA The Great State of California Posts: 2,090	It looks as ugly as a Glock to me. __________________ Hook686 When the number of people in institutions reaches 51%, we change sides.

February 22, 2014, 02:20 PM	#11
glove Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2006 Location: Richfield Ohio Posts: 141	Looks like a Walther P-22 just larger. __________________ NRA Life Member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Member 72-75 Don't take life too seriously, No one makes it out alive anyway.

February 22, 2014, 10:21 PM	#13
IMightBeWrong Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Posts: 814	I like it. I had a PPQ and got rid of it a while back. Good trigger, but the P30 grip blows it away. Holding a PPQ and a P30 there is a definite difference in quality of materials and finish to me. This looks very interesting. If it has a trigger as crisp as the PPQs then I will likely find a way to budget one. __________________ "Intelligence is nothing more than discussing things with others. Limitless wisdom comes of this." - 山本常朝

February 22, 2014, 09:19 AM	#2
Wwrhodes91 Member Join Date: January 8, 2014 Posts: 46	Something looks off about it. The grip looks too narrow at the top or something.

February 22, 2014, 10:05 AM	#6
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,214	Dude we still have no idea if these images are legit. I think it is misleading not to mention that these are supposed images of the new pistol. Just because someone shared them on the HK pro forums doesn't make them undeniable.

February 22, 2014, 01:36 PM	#9
PSP Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Location: Bowling Green Virginia Posts: 4,487	I lean towards wanting a hammer. What I don't see is a decocker, which is something I'd prefer on a striker. I wonder why the two left side levers. Does it disassemble with or without a cocked striker? Otherwise looks like a P30. If it's as good a design as the P30 then it will be an excellent pistol. Wait and see.

February 22, 2014, 01:52 PM	#10
Kevin_d77 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2012 Location: SW FL Posts: 953	Looks exactly as I would imagine......just like a PPQ

February 22, 2014, 08:06 PM	#12
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	You won't see HK try to make a gun out of pot metal, only Umarex.

February 22, 2014, 10:43 PM	#14
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	The more I see it, the more I'm starting to like it. I hope they get the trigger right. I'm pretty sure I'll pick one up. I'm really considering a P30L V1 to compliment my V3 currently. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

February 22, 2014, 11:40 PM	#15
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	It looks like HK needs to start paying Walther some royalties.

February 23, 2014, 01:50 AM	#18
shaunpain Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 854	While I'm sure that it will shoot fantastically, if it's even real, it is utterly unaesthetic. The ergonomics are pretty intriguing, but I don't I could ever get over how unappealing it looks. It really does hinge on that trigger. __________________ "Shut up, crime!"

February 23, 2014, 02:17 AM	#19
Elerius Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2013 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 365	Another gun maker jumps into the striker fire pit I hope this turns out to be a hoax, honestly. The market is flooded with striker fires and I'm tired of it. At least HK has continued to develop new guns that are hammer fired, along with Beretta and Sig which I think gives them a little extra respect. What I'd like to see is a new gun come out with a metal frame from HK. When that happens, I'll be a lot more interested.

February 23, 2014, 03:19 AM	#20
1stmar Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,378	I like it. The grip angle looks like it might be to sharp and the trigger reach may be a bit far for my smaller hands. Have to feel it. I prefer striker fired. What's the objection to them? I don't want da/sa or da only. The p7 was a striker fire, no? Didn't hk really lead this evolution?

February 23, 2014, 08:43 AM	#21
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	I would imagine the Walther PPQ is eating into HK's bread-and-butter, European police agency contracts. I'm sure this new striker gun is aimed at competing for that market first and foremost.

February 23, 2014, 09:26 AM	#23
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	It looks to me like all the plastic molders, Glock, Smith, XD, Walther, and H&K are bringing out new models and scrambling desperately for smaller and smaller slices of the service and SD pistol pie. The problem is, even a plastic pistol is a "durable good" and they have to either find new customers or convince the existing ones that their old guns are no good. A tough proposition, my Gen I G17 is as good as anything they are making now and a friend is still wedded to his Walther P99AS

February 23, 2014, 09:27 AM	#24
sigp226wgerman Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2013 Location: NC Posts: 159	Not a fan. I like how the regular P30 looks, but this looks like a PPQ. For apme reason the PPQ reminds me of a plastic Hipoint.

February 23, 2014, 10:20 AM	#25
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	Just for a reference, a pic of my PPQ. I can certainly see the German similarities. The reason the PPQ has such amazing trigger and that separates itself from all the others is that it is the ONLY totally pre cocked triggers. That is a major difference when you don't have to partially cock with each pull of the trigger. As much as I love the HK, all mine are DA/SA and are on the USP platform. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country" Last edited by Mystro; February 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM.

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