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November 7, 2014, 02:28 PM | #26 | |
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November 7, 2014, 02:45 PM | #27 |
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I worked in a very busy Gun Shop from the mid 80's through the early 90's and as I remember lots of every day gun owners were rather anti as to who could own firearms and what kind of firearms should be allowed . You can still here this stuff from a few . On a prepper web site I go to there was a discussion on LEO's being anti 2nd Amendment when I posted some of the stuff everyday shooters have said I guess some of them realized that We as firearms owners do not allways agree . Thats not a weakness just Human behavior . I personaly think we should be able to own anything the Military has the only limit is what you can afford $$$ .
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November 9, 2014, 05:17 PM | #31 |
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Bill Ruger attempted to use the power of government to destroy his competition and the rights of citizens.
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November 9, 2014, 09:38 PM | #32 |
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"Bill Ruger attempted to use the power of government to destroy his competition and the rights of citizens."
And you blame him for that? Psssh. That's business, my friend. Just as it's our job to fight back against that behavior. Both are equally necessary for prosperity and freedom (respectively) "The years of the Clinton Administration were dark times for the gun industry and the 2nd Amendment." I would disagree, from a longer-looking standpoint. Our political system, as tumultuous and irritating as it is, is still functional at curbing the worst ambitions our eager pols would foist upon us. Therefore, there was (in retrospect) not as much existential risk to the RKBA as was feared at the time; we weren't about to go off a cliff, we were already falling and about to be snapped back by the bungie cord. Nothing good about testing that cord, even if it does jerk us back to reality as part of the process. It was a dark period, but by necessity got bad enough to make us recoil from it. TCB
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November 9, 2014, 10:26 PM | #33 | |
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....as for the dark days of the Clinton Administration, yes, I think they resulted in an awakening of gun owners to the fact that the Antis will not be content with any compromise, and will always proceed toward their ultimate goal ...... I certainly woke up, and became politically aware for the first time in my life..... |
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There was going to be a mag round limit. There was NO hope of avoiding that, the "fix was in" with Congress. What Ruger tried to do was convince them NOT to choose 6 or even 5 rounds as the limit (which was what was being considered). Is he being remembered for creating what has become one of the major US gun companies? No. For bringing us many,many truly excellent guns at prices the working man could afford? No. All you are remembering is an old man, late in his life, who shot off his mouth (admittedly foolishly) trying to stop ignorant politicians from destroying his life's work. You have the right to your opinion, but while you are damming his memory for getting us a 10 round limit, you might want to consider some faint recognition of him helping us keep from getting a 5 round limit. You might also consider putting the blame were it really belongs, on politicians and the anti gun movement.
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November 10, 2014, 01:27 PM | #35 | |
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No. S&W did what they had to do to stay in business to continue to produce firearms. They continue to produce firearms that are so much in demand that you rarely see them in stock. Their firearms are also considered by many to be some of the best in the world. How anti-gun is that? Because of the little hole in the frame? How about when Remington put internal locks on it's long guns? They had the same little "Hillary Hole" in the trigger guard. Strange that there are not countless internet threads about this touting the likelihood of complete gun failure, and lets boycott them because of their antigun sentiments. They must be in cahoots with S&W and Bill Ruger conspiring to take away our guns that they are trying to sell to us. Bill Ruger was also a long way from anti gun. He said how he felt and said what he thought might save his largest group of consumers the ability to buy his firearms. Didn't like what he said, so be it. But to call him anti-gun? Pretty long stretch there. |
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