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February 15, 2024, 11:03 PM | #26 | |
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Many people wanted the hogs that I caught, I trapped many, but same deal, the hogs must be killed before transport. Some people make money selling feral hogs on the hoof, but to me it wasn’t worth the trouble. The scarred beast in the picture I posted above was photographed on trail camera 200ft from my bedroom window but the forest is so thick in my current and final home that I can’t get down to them in time lol. I need to cut some trails in my forest, just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
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February 16, 2024, 12:09 AM | #27 | |
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Contrast that with deer ranches that have cull hunts. Would you pay for a cull hunt or to hunt deer in general? For all practical purposes, cull deer are nothing but vermin needing to be slaughtered. You know why people pay to hunt hogs? An exceptional few of them really care one iota about helping out landowners or dealing with problems. Nope, people pay to hunt hogs because it is fun and exciting, plain and simple. Plus, it is something they can do outside of deer season.
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February 16, 2024, 11:20 AM | #28 |
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I did not need to post reasons. Other posters did so for me. If I am quoted, please quote the entire text of the post.
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February 16, 2024, 03:15 PM | #29 | |
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It's their land, their rules. Don't want to pay? No problem, there is plenty of public land to hunt. Want a little bit of something for free? That's hard to come by. Are ranchers and farmers helping or hindering the elimination of an invasive pest species? That's a complex question and I'm quite sure it won't get solved on here.
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February 16, 2024, 03:30 PM | #30 |
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Nothing wrong with making money.
For farmers who want to eliminate hogs for real, it is quite reasonable to ask for safety deposit. Hogs must be dead before leaving property. Hunters are losing their deposits if they damage anything. I will sign up for that. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk |
February 16, 2024, 06:34 PM | #31 |
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Bottom Line: Most "free" hunters are more trouble than the hogs. That is why free hunting, and specifically free hog hunting, has largely gone away. The proclaimed help is not helping and sometimes is disastrous.
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February 17, 2024, 12:21 PM | #32 |
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I think my eyes are fine also . I took the exact same photo of my 228 hog with the rifle laying on the hog . The butt was right there on my hog and my rifle's muzzle reached it's ear , but my rifle had a 30 inch barrel . So whether or not the rifles were with in a inch or two on the hogs , that would not change the perspective of the photo . My hog had a large head and thick shoulder section . But you would know as you were there .
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February 18, 2024, 08:46 AM | #33 | |
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February 18, 2024, 09:57 AM | #34 |
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Why , because you are the only person that knows anything ? That I do not know about photo angles and depth ?
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February 18, 2024, 03:03 PM | #35 |
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You essentially called another member a liar when he posted his photo. Seems only fair that you post your evidence.
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February 18, 2024, 04:47 PM | #36 | |
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The point is that you are saying his weight can't right right because you claim you have a picture that is just like his and your pig is smaller. You made the challenge that he is in error and made the claim that you had proof. Now is the time to put up or shut up.
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February 18, 2024, 05:57 PM | #37 |
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i hunt hogs with a muzzleloader, usually, a .50 or .54 caliber. i like to wait for hogs to line up side by side. Twofer shot.
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February 18, 2024, 06:41 PM | #38 |
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I accidentally got a twofer one time, I shot a sow and apparently there was a piglet standing next to her. It was camouflaged next to her I guess. Whatever, I didn’t see it, the why doesn’t matter.
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February 19, 2024, 09:26 AM | #39 |
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No , I did not call anybody anything . I know that all hogs shot by people who 's rifles shoot 0.01 groups weight over 400 lbs . None of the things stated come into play when a rifle of know length is setting right on top of a hog . Camera type , moon position , wind speed are not a factor .
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February 19, 2024, 10:26 AM | #40 |
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So no photo "proof," LOL.
thallub never made such claims about 0.01 groups or weight over 400, but it is good you know these and apply them so appropriately. That is amazing that you have the ability to know hog weights based on a single linear metric. That method works so well that it is not used in the swine industry. There are various formulas, some of which use length and some of which don't, but they all use heart girth, which you don't have in the image, plain and simple. https://www.redwattle.com/docs/tutor...ate-pig-wt.pdf https://www.thepigsite.com/articles/...ithout-a-scale https://www.montana.edu/extension/sa...g%20taping.pdf https://www.theseasonalhomestead.com...m-the-butcher/ https://www.phinhall.net/online-pig-weight-calculator/ https://s3.wp.wsu.edu/uploads/sites/...r-Letter-1.pdf
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February 20, 2024, 09:21 PM | #41 |
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February 21, 2024, 03:01 PM | #42 |
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Getting back to the shot placement, this is a 13yo picture, I took pictures for the land owner for a bit.
Anyway, it illustrates my favorite location, the neck. This one happened to be with a .223 varmint bullet because I was actually coyote hunting when this youngster showed up. Dropped in place. You can deviate some when you have a bigger bullet
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February 21, 2024, 05:41 PM | #43 |
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Shame that some threads degenerate into "measuring contests". Folks have different opinions, which does not make them wrong. After shooting a 357#(scale weighed) Boar 7 times with a 6.5 Grendel at 60 yards, I don't go without a 450 Bushmaster.
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February 21, 2024, 05:47 PM | #44 |
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That’s my intent for the 450 bushmaster I recently assembled.
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February 21, 2024, 07:18 PM | #45 |
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Want to make a dent in the feral hog population? Set up a feeder and kill little pigs with # 4 buck shot.
Dead pigs don't become hogs. Last edited by thallub; February 24, 2024 at 07:21 AM. |
February 21, 2024, 09:46 PM | #46 | |
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Not sure if weight calculations would be accurate for both. A scale would be the best. |
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February 22, 2024, 09:20 AM | #50 |
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There’s actually some unscrupulous hog hunters, (some farmers actually pay for hog removal) they re-release the hogs nearby to perpetuate the problem. Many farmers would love to have people eliminate the hogs free of charge, but free hunters bring problems in some cases. The farms that I worked had a strict no hog leaves the property alive policy."
IN okk. Releasing wild hogs to populate new land is a felony in OK: The OK Department of Agriculture enforces wild hog law https://ag.ok.gov/wp-content/uploads...egulations.pdf |
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