M855 Got 'em

Sabre9mm · January 20, 2013, 02:40 PM

Got a 1k loose, lake city green tip yesterday at the show.

Yeah, took them out to the range, my M193 was denting the steel plate well, about 1/2 to 2/3 penetration, but the M855 was cutting through it like putty...

They do what they say, and I got a great deal on this lot, enough to make the last thousand that I bought way high balance out as well.

I am now actually down around pre panic retail on average per round price!

Ben Towe · January 20, 2013, 04:03 PM

How thick is that plate?!? The last photo makes it appear very thick.

dascottsman · January 20, 2013, 04:08 PM

NO doubt, that plate looks thick. I wasn't thinking 855 was capable. I had seen my copper washed 7.62 defeat some thick plate, but not the 855 so much....

Looks like fun anyhow. Might want to hang on to it until the storm blows over, if it does.............

Sabre9mm · January 20, 2013, 04:31 PM

.5" @ just < 100 yd, it was outrageously cool fun.

It disintegrated bricks as well, even an audible difference in the round from the .223 55gr I can only assume from the higher pressure and heavier round.

I will definitely be holding onto that bunch, and shooting up some more of that Federal AE first for range, after I divided the box out into individual 30 round bags and packed it into a real can, I just took the strays with me. (my 1k rounds actually came up to 978)

Already trading for > $1 per round in some arenas, I got it for WAY less than that. And as things are going, I could see it being on a hit list near term.

I wanted to go get some more plate and fire up half the case, but fought the urge.

Ben Towe · January 20, 2013, 05:35 PM

I wish I had bought that lot of 855 in December for 40¢ per round. Been kicking myself ever since.

Sabre9mm · January 20, 2013, 05:47 PM

It is fun stuff, I had been looking for some for quite some time, had about given up.
Sure will be nice if/when this ammo drought ends and we can go back to normal prices.

breakingcontact · January 20, 2013, 11:04 PM

Looked at a case of that for $420 before the current craziness...

Don't kick myself though. Only so much money to go around and I don't like to speculate.

Looks like good stuff.

skeeter · January 20, 2013, 11:13 PM

They should be outlawed!!!!!!!!!!
No one should be able to own them.
We should only be allowed bows and arrows.

I am sure they will actually be outlawed soon.

CharlieDeltaJuliet · January 20, 2013, 11:25 PM

I still have 250-350 of the Winchester white box 855, and 160 PMC X-Tac, but had bought a 420 round Federal XM855 can from Palmetto State Armory back in August. I don't shoot them much, I mainly shoot M193 but these are my back ups.. I just happened to buy them because they were on sale for $168 or $178 for the 420 round can on stripper clips.

I just hope demand and supply meet somewhere down the road...

Sabre9mm · January 21, 2013, 12:07 AM

I could see it being outlawed, be a hard press to say one needs to kill deer in light body armor or behind brick walls...

I have done some research, seems it is not the best anti tissue round because it tends to just go through, but it has its place, and that place if nothing else is a big spoonful of cool when you want it.

Super fun

I would buy another case @ $450, and probably shoot the whole thing at one trip to the range.

Makes me wish I could get hands on some M955, just to play with...
I would probably pay an outrageous price just to plink with it.

Gary L. Griffiths · January 21, 2013, 01:40 AM

Still have a case (1,000 rds) of PMC X-Tac that I bought in November for $319.

Sabre9mm · January 21, 2013, 11:38 AM

For comparison here is a shot of the M193 side by side with the M855 same plate.

M193 bulged the back just a little, but stopped short at about .75 penetration.
I guess it just sprayed out of the hole, I scratched the back with my knife, it was unquestionably steel not compacted lead.

CharlieDeltaJuliet · January 21, 2013, 12:30 PM

@ Gary, I really like the X-Tac. I will take it anyday over surplus 855. I am a huge fan of PMC. That was a steal.

I have a funny feeling the "armor piercing" ammo "high capacity magazines" and "gunshow loophole" will be the hard hitting points we feel the blunt end of.

I hope oneday that I will be able to walk into my LGS and buy green tipped 5.56, but we need to stay vigilant on standing our ground.

January 20, 2013, 02:40 PM	#1
Sabre9mm Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 303	M855 Got 'em Got a 1k loose, lake city green tip yesterday at the show. Yeah, took them out to the range, my M193 was denting the steel plate well, about 1/2 to 2/3 penetration, but the M855 was cutting through it like putty... They do what they say, and I got a great deal on this lot, enough to make the last thousand that I bought way high balance out as well. I am now actually down around pre panic retail on average per round price!

January 20, 2013, 04:03 PM	#2
Ben Towe Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,128	How thick is that plate?!? The last photo makes it appear very thick. __________________ 'Merica: Back to back World War Champs

January 20, 2013, 05:35 PM	#5
Ben Towe Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,128	I wish I had bought that lot of 855 in December for 40¢ per round. Been kicking myself ever since. __________________ 'Merica: Back to back World War Champs

January 20, 2013, 11:25 PM	#9
CharlieDeltaJuliet Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2012 Posts: 755	I still have 250-350 of the Winchester white box 855, and 160 PMC X-Tac, but had bought a 420 round Federal XM855 can from Palmetto State Armory back in August. I don't shoot them much, I mainly shoot M193 but these are my back ups.. I just happened to buy them because they were on sale for $168 or $178 for the 420 round can on stripper clips. I just hope demand and supply meet somewhere down the road... __________________ " The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government...." - Thomas Jefferson

January 21, 2013, 01:40 AM	#11
Gary L. Griffiths Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: AZ, WA Posts: 1,466	Still have a case (1,000 rds) of PMC X-Tac that I bought in November for $319. __________________ Violence is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and valorous feeling which believes that nothing is worth violence is much worse. Those who have nothing for which they are willing to fight; nothing they care about more than their own craven apathy; are miserable creatures who have no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the valor of those better than themselves. Gary L. Griffiths (Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill)

January 20, 2013, 04:08 PM	#3
dascottsman Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2011 Location: colorado-a-fornia Posts: 111	NO doubt, that plate looks thick. I wasn't thinking 855 was capable. I had seen my copper washed 7.62 defeat some thick plate, but not the 855 so much.... Looks like fun anyhow. Might want to hang on to it until the storm blows over, if it does.............

January 20, 2013, 04:31 PM	#4
Sabre9mm Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 303	.5" @ just < 100 yd, it was outrageously cool fun. It disintegrated bricks as well, even an audible difference in the round from the .223 55gr I can only assume from the higher pressure and heavier round. I will definitely be holding onto that bunch, and shooting up some more of that Federal AE first for range, after I divided the box out into individual 30 round bags and packed it into a real can, I just took the strays with me. (my 1k rounds actually came up to 978) Already trading for > $1 per round in some arenas, I got it for WAY less than that. And as things are going, I could see it being on a hit list near term. I wanted to go get some more plate and fire up half the case, but fought the urge.

January 20, 2013, 05:47 PM	#6
Sabre9mm Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 303	It is fun stuff, I had been looking for some for quite some time, had about given up. Sure will be nice if/when this ammo drought ends and we can go back to normal prices.

January 20, 2013, 11:04 PM	#7
breakingcontact Junior member Join Date: October 25, 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 736	Looked at a case of that for $420 before the current craziness... Don't kick myself though. Only so much money to go around and I don't like to speculate. Looks like good stuff.

January 20, 2013, 11:13 PM	#8
skeeter Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Posts: 883	They should be outlawed!!!!!!!!!! No one should be able to own them. We should only be allowed bows and arrows. I am sure they will actually be outlawed soon.

January 21, 2013, 12:07 AM	#10
Sabre9mm Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 303	I could see it being outlawed, be a hard press to say one needs to kill deer in light body armor or behind brick walls... I have done some research, seems it is not the best anti tissue round because it tends to just go through, but it has its place, and that place if nothing else is a big spoonful of cool when you want it. Super fun I would buy another case @ $450, and probably shoot the whole thing at one trip to the range. Makes me wish I could get hands on some M955, just to play with... I would probably pay an outrageous price just to plink with it.

January 21, 2013, 11:38 AM	#12
Sabre9mm Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 303	For comparison here is a shot of the M193 side by side with the M855 same plate. M193 bulged the back just a little, but stopped short at about .75 penetration. I guess it just sprayed out of the hole, I scratched the back with my knife, it was unquestionably steel not compacted lead.

January 21, 2013, 12:30 PM	#13
CharlieDeltaJuliet Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2012 Posts: 755	@ Gary, I really like the X-Tac. I will take it anyday over surplus 855. I am a huge fan of PMC. That was a steal. I have a funny feeling the "armor piercing" ammo "high capacity magazines" and "gunshow loophole" will be the hard hitting points we feel the blunt end of. I hope oneday that I will be able to walk into my LGS and buy green tipped 5.56, but we need to stay vigilant on standing our ground. __________________ " The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government...." - Thomas Jefferson

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