My method of shooting the mosin,

young mosin · March 14, 2010, 01:19 PM

Everyone complains the handle is hard to push up when you shoot. so this is what i do its pretty simple

1-shoot your gun
2- pull the knob back
3 your bolt will open alot faster.

I reccomend this for target shooters and deer hunters

mp25ds4 · March 14, 2010, 04:02 PM

the reason this makes it easier to open is because you are cocking the firing pin before you open the bolt whereas normally the bolt would cock when you open the handle

SigP6Carry · March 14, 2010, 04:06 PM

That works, but if you smooth the action out and trim the firing pin spring, you can get it to work almost as easily.

jsmaye · March 15, 2010, 07:45 AM

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2- pull the knob back

Actually, that would work on any cock-on-open bolt. However, I doubt it would make much difference on a truly hard-to-open Mosin - the few pounds of relief won't help much with a bolt that has to be hammered open.

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...trim the firing pin spring...

Definitely a last resort.

SigP6Carry · March 15, 2010, 08:21 AM

not quite a last resort, many people do it. It increases lock up time, but makes the bolt easier to work. The generally rule of thumb is to take off 2 coils of spring. An extra isn't hard to get, if you do mess it up. If I recall correctly, cocking before you work the bolt will actually get about 8 pounds off the pull. When I first got my mosin, even pulling the bolt back wouldn't let me open the bolt, as it was so gummed up and jammed to begin with. It makes it easier to operate, but it doesn't solve the problem.

jsmaye · March 15, 2010, 09:11 AM

Cutting the firing pin spring to solve what is most likely a cleaning issue is, to me anyway, a last resort regardless of how many people do it.

SigP6Carry · March 15, 2010, 09:37 AM

It's definitely not the first thing one should do with their Mosin. Once the bolt and receiver have been thoroughly cleaned, the gun is fairly operational. A bit of sanding and polishing in key areas, plus lightening the spring, will make your Mosin a much more enjoyable weapon to fire. There's no one "this fixes the bolt" step for these things, it's a combination of many smaller things that adds up to a smooth bolt. Initially, most Mosins' issues with stick bolt stems from needing a good, thorough cleaning. That makes them useable, in my case, it took ALOT of cleaning of an otherwise clean rifle, to get it to last more than 10 rounds at the range (at which point my bolt would completely freeze, and I would literally have to stomp on the bolt to open it).

There's different grades of "bolt smoothness" that one can achieve, and trimming the spring is one of the later mods to do to achieve optimal operation speed.

Hardcase · March 15, 2010, 11:55 AM

Only puny bourgeois complain about rugged proletariat bolt on great patriotic Mosin Nagant!

Claude Clay · March 15, 2010, 12:09 PM

bolt for to work hard under communist oppression

other way for sissies

TX Hunter · March 19, 2010, 07:05 PM

My Mossin Bolt is silky smooth, the safety is dificult at best, but you just gotta be tough like a Russian Soldier.

Fullthrottle · March 19, 2010, 11:02 PM

Second with TXHunter"My Mossin Bolt is silky smooth, the safety is dificult at best, "

I have the same problem, smooth bolt! Due to what I believe is proper cleaning and lube. Or just luck of the draw?

the rifleer · March 19, 2010, 11:39 PM

The bolt on my m44 is pretty smooth and easy to work, but every now and then its gets kinda stiff. I just whack it hard with my palm and quickly rechamber and fire. The mosin is one of the few rifles that looks cool when your reloading, but you have to do it fast and hard and then shoot quickly to impress people.

March 14, 2010, 01:19 PM	#1
young mosin Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Location: missouri Posts: 96	My method of shooting the mosin, Everyone complains the handle is hard to push up when you shoot. so this is what i do its pretty simple 1-shoot your gun 2- pull the knob back 3 your bolt will open alot faster. I reccomend this for target shooters and deer hunters

March 14, 2010, 04:02 PM	#2
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	the reason this makes it easier to open is because you are cocking the firing pin before you open the bolt whereas normally the bolt would cock when you open the handle __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

March 14, 2010, 04:06 PM	#3
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	That works, but if you smooth the action out and trim the firing pin spring, you can get it to work almost as easily. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

March 15, 2010, 08:21 AM	#5
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	not quite a last resort, many people do it. It increases lock up time, but makes the bolt easier to work. The generally rule of thumb is to take off 2 coils of spring. An extra isn't hard to get, if you do mess it up. If I recall correctly, cocking before you work the bolt will actually get about 8 pounds off the pull. When I first got my mosin, even pulling the bolt back wouldn't let me open the bolt, as it was so gummed up and jammed to begin with. It makes it easier to operate, but it doesn't solve the problem. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?- Last edited by SigP6Carry; March 15, 2010 at 08:32 AM.

March 15, 2010, 09:11 AM	#6
jsmaye Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Location: Amarillo, Tx Posts: 616	Cutting the firing pin spring to solve what is most likely a cleaning issue is, to me anyway, a last resort regardless of how many people do it. __________________ No matter how big and tough you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone you'll answer it.

March 15, 2010, 09:37 AM	#7
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	It's definitely not the first thing one should do with their Mosin. Once the bolt and receiver have been thoroughly cleaned, the gun is fairly operational. A bit of sanding and polishing in key areas, plus lightening the spring, will make your Mosin a much more enjoyable weapon to fire. There's no one "this fixes the bolt" step for these things, it's a combination of many smaller things that adds up to a smooth bolt. Initially, most Mosins' issues with stick bolt stems from needing a good, thorough cleaning. That makes them useable, in my case, it took ALOT of cleaning of an otherwise clean rifle, to get it to last more than 10 rounds at the range (at which point my bolt would completely freeze, and I would literally have to stomp on the bolt to open it). There's different grades of "bolt smoothness" that one can achieve, and trimming the spring is one of the later mods to do to achieve optimal operation speed. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

March 15, 2010, 11:55 AM	#8
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	Only puny bourgeois complain about rugged proletariat bolt on great patriotic Mosin Nagant! __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

March 15, 2010, 12:09 PM	#9
Claude Clay Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2007 Location: CT Posts: 325	bolt for to work hard under communist oppression other way for sissies

March 19, 2010, 07:05 PM	#10
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	My Mossin Bolt is silky smooth, the safety is dificult at best, but you just gotta be tough like a Russian Soldier.

March 19, 2010, 11:02 PM	#11
Fullthrottle Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2009 Posts: 280	Second with TXHunter"My Mossin Bolt is silky smooth, the safety is dificult at best, " I have the same problem, smooth bolt! Due to what I believe is proper cleaning and lube. Or just luck of the draw? __________________ When seconds count, why is help minutes away?

March 19, 2010, 11:39 PM	#12
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	The bolt on my m44 is pretty smooth and easy to work, but every now and then its gets kinda stiff. I just whack it hard with my palm and quickly rechamber and fire. The mosin is one of the few rifles that looks cool when your reloading, but you have to do it fast and hard and then shoot quickly to impress people.