in the market for a combat / tactical shotgun

satan · March 10, 2011, 06:03 PM

howdy , I am in the market for a combat / tactical shotgun
would it be easier to buy a remington 700 and build up or just buy a built one ??

Rob228 · March 10, 2011, 06:12 PM

Depends on how good you are with some basic tools. I built one from an 870 that came out pretty good, and I was able to build it exactly how I wanted, instead of dropping big money on an equivelant from one of the custom shops.

FYI: A 700 is a rifle, the 870 is probably the shotgun you are looking for.

Lee Lapin · March 10, 2011, 08:49 PM

Best bet in the long run is to start with a plain jane riot gun and work on learning to run the gun. Police trade-in 870s turn up from time to time, often at good prices. Accessories are easy to add (if it's an 870 you're thinking of) once you decide what you really want on your gun.

About the only thing that isn't an easy DIY job is sights- if you want sights on the gun, it's cheaper and easier to get them as a factory option. Rifle type sights are available on a good number of short smoothbore barrels and are an easy way to get sights on a gun. Ghost rings are more trouble but can be had as a factory option on some LE guns, if you want ghost rings.

Happy shopping,

lpl

satan · March 10, 2011, 08:58 PM

hi guys , yous right 870 , just beat today , so who sells add ons for your shotguns ??

Rob228 · March 10, 2011, 09:03 PM

I went with the following:

Scattergun Technologies magazine extension.
Mesa Tactical side saddle
Surefire fore end.
Midwest Industries single point sling attachment.

I did a tritium sight on an 18" barrel but that took more effort than I thought it would, then painted the barrel and the magazine tube extension with Rustoleum truck bed liner. The Scattergun tech extension won't work with the Surefire fore end right off the bat, you have to take the sling attachment point off of it.

This is prior to the paint and tritium sight.

Lee Lapin · March 10, 2011, 09:10 PM

Everybody and their brother makes stuff for 870s, it seems. The problem more likely will be not buying a bunch of stuff that you don't really need. Midway handles a good deal of shotgun stuff, as do Brownells.

Everyone has different likes and dislikes for working shotguns. I usually wind up with a shortened stock fitted with a good recoil pad, rifle sights (the factory kind, that come on the barrel), a Sidesaddle, a white light source and provisions for a sling. Some folks want more, others less- which is why I say it's better in the long run to start with a plain gun and add what you decide you need as you learn the gun and develop your skillset.

fwiw,

lpl

satan · March 10, 2011, 09:33 PM

hi guys , great time to do some research , great looking tach shotgun rob

.

rottieman33 · March 10, 2011, 10:09 PM

Saiga 12 you can customize these guns in so many ways. 5, 8, 10, 12 round magizane or 20 round drums, different stocks, muzzle breaks. Even a SBS (Short barrel Shotgun)

Rob228 · March 10, 2011, 10:10 PM

Thanks. I bought the original shotgun 13 years ago (I was 15 at the time) from a guy that I shot smallbore rifle with. I got a heck of a deal on it ($50 if you can believe it). It is a Wingmaster from sometime in the mid to late 70's. I kept all the original hardware and can put it back to its original form in a few minutes.

Funny thing, I live on the opposite side of the country as my father these days, and when he saw a picture of it, he called me up and immediately started asking why I ruined a perfectly good Wingmaster. He is right...... however like I said, I can turn it back in a few minutes.

satan · March 10, 2011, 11:02 PM

20 round drums , wow

rottieman33 · March 10, 2011, 11:52 PM

Code:

20 round drums , wow

http://www.mdarms.com/
People that make the 20 round drum

This is the Saiga 12 Forum if you want to learn more and they have a chat room to http://forum.saiga-12.com

Its a 12ga with a AK-47 look. I shoot trap and skeet with it and plan to hunt turkey with it this spring.

satan · March 11, 2011, 12:09 AM

wow , I still cannot get over a 20 round drum mag for a shotgun ,

rottieman33 · March 11, 2011, 01:15 AM

the even make suppressors for the Saiga 12 if your state allows them

Jake Balam · March 11, 2011, 01:28 AM

I got a Remington 870 HD.

Seven rd tube 20 inch barrel.

As tactical or combat as I need to be.

I put an elastic butt cuff that holds five shotshells. maybe ill zip tie a surefire to it. ill be damned if I buy a surefire forend that costs more then the dang gun.

March 10, 2011, 06:03 PM	#1
satan Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Posts: 16	in the market for a combat / tactical shotgun howdy , I am in the market for a combat / tactical shotgun would it be easier to buy a remington 700 and build up or just buy a built one ??

March 10, 2011, 08:49 PM	#3
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Best bet in the long run is to start with a plain jane riot gun and work on learning to run the gun. Police trade-in 870s turn up from time to time, often at good prices. Accessories are easy to add (if it's an 870 you're thinking of) once you decide what you really want on your gun. About the only thing that isn't an easy DIY job is sights- if you want sights on the gun, it's cheaper and easier to get them as a factory option. Rifle type sights are available on a good number of short smoothbore barrels and are an easy way to get sights on a gun. Ghost rings are more trouble but can be had as a factory option on some LE guns, if you want ghost rings. Happy shopping, lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

March 10, 2011, 09:10 PM	#6
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Everybody and their brother makes stuff for 870s, it seems. The problem more likely will be not buying a bunch of stuff that you don't really need. Midway handles a good deal of shotgun stuff, as do Brownells. Everyone has different likes and dislikes for working shotguns. I usually wind up with a shortened stock fitted with a good recoil pad, rifle sights (the factory kind, that come on the barrel), a Sidesaddle, a white light source and provisions for a sling. Some folks want more, others less- which is why I say it's better in the long run to start with a plain gun and add what you decide you need as you learn the gun and develop your skillset. fwiw, lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

March 10, 2011, 10:09 PM	#8
rottieman33 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 223	Saiga 12 you can customize these guns in so many ways. 5, 8, 10, 12 round magizane or 20 round drums, different stocks, muzzle breaks. Even a SBS (Short barrel Shotgun) Last edited by rottieman33; March 20, 2011 at 07:05 PM.

March 10, 2011, 11:52 PM	#11
rottieman33 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 223	Code: 20 round drums , wow http://www.mdarms.com/ People that make the 20 round drum This is the Saiga 12 Forum if you want to learn more and they have a chat room to http://forum.saiga-12.com Its a 12ga with a AK-47 look. I shoot trap and skeet with it and plan to hunt turkey with it this spring. Last edited by rottieman33; March 20, 2011 at 07:05 PM.

March 10, 2011, 06:12 PM	#2
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	Depends on how good you are with some basic tools. I built one from an 870 that came out pretty good, and I was able to build it exactly how I wanted, instead of dropping big money on an equivelant from one of the custom shops. FYI: A 700 is a rifle, the 870 is probably the shotgun you are looking for.

March 10, 2011, 08:58 PM	#4
satan Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Posts: 16	hi guys , yous right 870 , just beat today , so who sells add ons for your shotguns ??

March 10, 2011, 09:03 PM	#5
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	I went with the following: Scattergun Technologies magazine extension. Mesa Tactical side saddle Surefire fore end. Midwest Industries single point sling attachment. I did a tritium sight on an 18" barrel but that took more effort than I thought it would, then painted the barrel and the magazine tube extension with Rustoleum truck bed liner. The Scattergun tech extension won't work with the Surefire fore end right off the bat, you have to take the sling attachment point off of it. This is prior to the paint and tritium sight.

March 10, 2011, 09:33 PM	#7
satan Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Posts: 16	hi guys , great time to do some research , great looking tach shotgun rob .

March 10, 2011, 10:10 PM	#9
Rob228 Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2010 Location: Hampstead NC Posts: 1,450	Thanks. I bought the original shotgun 13 years ago (I was 15 at the time) from a guy that I shot smallbore rifle with. I got a heck of a deal on it ($50 if you can believe it). It is a Wingmaster from sometime in the mid to late 70's. I kept all the original hardware and can put it back to its original form in a few minutes. Funny thing, I live on the opposite side of the country as my father these days, and when he saw a picture of it, he called me up and immediately started asking why I ruined a perfectly good Wingmaster. He is right...... however like I said, I can turn it back in a few minutes.

March 10, 2011, 11:02 PM	#10
satan Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Posts: 16	20 round drums , wow

March 11, 2011, 12:09 AM	#12
satan Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Posts: 16	wow , I still cannot get over a 20 round drum mag for a shotgun ,

March 11, 2011, 01:15 AM	#13
rottieman33 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 223	the even make suppressors for the Saiga 12 if your state allows them

March 11, 2011, 01:28 AM	#14
Jake Balam Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: 360 Washington Posts: 160	I got a Remington 870 HD. Seven rd tube 20 inch barrel. As tactical or combat as I need to be. I put an elastic butt cuff that holds five shotshells. maybe ill zip tie a surefire to it. ill be damned if I buy a surefire forend that costs more then the dang gun. __________________ Patiently awaiting the zombie apacolypse.