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September 21, 2012, 01:52 AM | #26 |
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Bushmaster - nice work, on a target smaller than a standard 8 1/2" x 11" piece of paper, to put it in context. I can't do that.
Your shooting reminds me of the recent incident where the good old boy whipped out his .357 revolver and long-range popped a perp who was about to murder a cop in a trailer park, after the perp had murdered others and the cop was responding to the call. |
September 21, 2012, 02:39 AM | #27 |
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I find that shooting one-handed is easier for precision shooting than two-handed. I guess part of it is that the way I see my sights makes it easier. Two hands works great for recoil management if you gotta get a bunch of rounds off quickly, but one hand works better for precision if you have all day.
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September 21, 2012, 04:16 AM | #28 |
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This is one of the reasons why the .357 is and will always remain my favorite round.
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September 21, 2012, 09:16 AM | #29 |
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Thank you OG! Talk about shooting. Really nice. And multiple guns. You should re-post on the " beware the man with one gun" thread. Thanks again.
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September 22, 2012, 12:35 PM | #31 |
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Nice shooting you guys. I think many folks doubt simply due to a lack of experience and a self imposed belief that since they can't, never saw it done, or never have, that nobody can. Nonsense. Another issue is the size of the front sight in relation to the target or group. What folks fail to see is that that big fat front sight has a exact center. The exact center is the same size as the center of a fine sight or even the center of a set of cross hairs. It is the ability to use that center in conjunction with the rest of the basic shooting fundamentals that allow a person to make a decent shot at a longer range.
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September 22, 2012, 10:05 PM | #32 |
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If I can hit a 6" gong at 25 yards standing without a support, why shouldn't I be able to hit a 6" x 8" target at 100 yards from a support?
I would bet the gun can shoot much better than I can. |
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September 23, 2012, 08:15 AM | #35 |
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thats some great shooting, I don't care what position you were in, thats some great shooting Old Grump thats some great shooting as well In my 60's now with lineless trifocals and some floaters in my eyes I could not do that well either |
September 23, 2012, 10:14 AM | #36 | |
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The trick for me is to shoot with no corrective glasses, just safety glasses. the target is something between a blur and a blob, but am able to fix on the bottom of it and get a clear view of the front and rear sights on the pistol with arms extended. Ironically, I am not able to use iron sights on a rifle to any good accuracy because the rear sight is way too blurry. an aperture sight might work, but I do not have any. |
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September 23, 2012, 10:41 AM | #37 |
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Try finding (or making) a pinhole aperture for your glasses like the one below. I believe the hole diameter is 2mm. My eyes are like yours and it really sharpened up the rear sight on my AK, amazingly so. The design allows you to reposition the aperture for various situations as needed.
Here's one that's homemade... he used a 5/64" drill bit which, ironically is almost exactly 2mm. http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/g...tml#post105968 Last edited by spacecoast; September 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM. |
September 23, 2012, 01:49 PM | #38 |
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Is the aperture on the glasses like squinting?
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September 23, 2012, 02:34 PM | #39 |
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Yes, it's just like the principle of using a smaller aperture on a camera to increase the depth of field. As long as there is enough light available, it can make a dramatic difference by blocking the off-axis rays that make the image fuzzy.
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September 23, 2012, 07:54 PM | #40 |
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I tried it by punching two holes, one smaller than the other, into a sheet of black cardboard.
I tried it on small print that I could not read without my glasses at 8 inches from my eye and it is amazing! Looking forward to trying it at the range with iron sights on a pre-64 Model 70. The good news is that with this trick I might be able to shoot a Model 1894. The bad news is that I don't own one. |
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About a hundred years ago When I was teaching young police officers I would occasionally get one to laughing at my 45 and when asked why he would explain that his (daddy, uncle, grandpa, pick one), had explained to him that the gun was useless beyond 25', 50', 25 yards, pick one), and that you might just as well throw the 45 pistol at the bad guy as to try and shoot him. I would give that young officer a 50 yard target and have him post it on the 100 yard line and then I would shoot 5 shots with my 22, my 45 and his 38 spcl service revolver. (hey I told you this was a while back) Then I would send him down to get the target while I lit up a cigar and waited for him. This same guy I could not get to stop bull gazing and was shooting 20" patterns at 25 yards all of a sudden became a believer in his gun and started to serious listen to what I was telling him. I didn't make long range shooters out of them but they did tighten up their groups a lot at the ranges I had them shooting at, 50' and 75' and when they got a chance to shoot the qual course at the big old silhouette targets they used back then all of the shots of all of my students would be in a kill zone. There was no magic, just convincing them that basic fundamentals work and to have confidence in their gun whatever it was. All of you can do it, just dial in your brain that you can do it, then have faith in your gun and know that at a short range like 100 yards the bullet drop is not that significant. Stretch it out to 200 yards and its even more fun but now you have a little bit of drop to factor in.
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September 25, 2012, 05:57 AM | #42 |
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The secret to keepin em all on the paper for us older eyed fellers is simple - - - - - -
Get BIGGER paper !!!!! No , GOOD shootin fellers !!!! My grouping stops at around 60-70yds or so , when we were younger we`d shoot at an old truck rim across the feild (30=34" ole coka-cola truck rim)at 150-175 yds & it was alot of fun "walkin" your shots out to it , but once dialed in to it hits were fairly common & the 44 still carried alot of power at that distance .
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Good post, and good shooting!
I've long been a fan of longer distance shooting, though as many have found, you get a lot of people that simply dont believe you if you talk about it. We have an 18" plate @ 300 yards, I've probably shot at it more with handguns in the last 6-8 years than any closer distance, though I've been shooting distance for 30 years or so. The 24" 600 yard plate is a bit more difficult, I've only tried it once, but managed a couple hits out of 10 rounds fired with a g-19. That takes a spotter. Once the distance starts opening up, the velocity fo the round being used starts to make a big difference. Making hits at 300 yards with a 45 auto takes waaay more sight than a 9mm, or anything with a similar velocity spreads. 357's are good at this game. Regarding the eyepiece/hole thing, Merit has long made a device that does this, and is adjustable. You dial it until your image becomes sharp. You can suddenly see both sights and the target clearly. I have one, but usually forget to take it. They work like magic for aging (or not) eyes. This is one thing that does exctly what it says, I'm surprised more dont know about them or use them. They also make an adjustable aperture for peep sights that is supposed to do the same thing. I haven't tried one. The guys that use tang sights on lever guns say they sharpen up the vison when the correct sized aperture is used. Merits website, http://www.meritcorporation.com/products.html
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September 25, 2012, 02:35 PM | #44 |
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Good find, I'm pretty sure that's the same one I have. I couldn't remember where I found it, thought it might have been Champion's Choice but couldn't find it there either.
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