July 11, 2016, 01:45 PM | #1 |
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Shipping a C&R question
Hey all, I'm shipping a rifle tomorrow through ups and am wondering what to tell them when they ask in the box? I am an FFL03 shipping to another FFL03, this is my first time shipping so I guess I'm a little nervous lol. Thanks
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You are required to notify them that you are shipping a firearm (rifle) to an FFL.
They will require you ship with Adult Signature Required on delivery. EDIT: Double checked- I misspoke. The notification requirement only applies if shipping a handgun- not long guns. Also, make sure nothing on the package would indicate it might contain a firearm ( cannot ship to an address such as "Jim's Guns"...) Read their requirements, here: https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/re...rm&WT.svl=SRCH
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Tell them the truth
Tell them exactly what it is There should be no problems You will also need a copy of both FFLs for their records |
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Make sure to get the insurance if it is over $100.
(Personally, I found Fedex Ground to be a better deal, as well as the USPS) Quote:
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Thanks for the replies, i was just a little nervous being my first time and didn't want to cause a panic at the shipping center.
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Really no different than when a dealer ships a C&R to you. The UPS man used to tell my wife, "Do you know there's a gun in this box?" and her reply was always, "Yes." After about number 10, he quit asking.
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I once ordered a "special deal" from (IIRC) Navy Arms. The express guy asked the same question - did I know there was a gun in the box. I told him there better be three of them in there or I was going to have to report him. When I closed the door, his mouth was still moving but there was no sound coming out.
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In reference to the copys of FFLs
The UPS store I use always ask for them the one time the clerk did not, her boss chewed her ass good Whether it is required or not its easy to have them ready ( black and white or color copys does not matter ) |
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With a long gun, you can use USPS and probably save some money.
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I've shipped numerous firearms via UPS, always through company-operated hubs, and they have NEVER asked me to produce any supplemental paperwork of any sort. Quote:
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I've always had to go to the UPS hub here to ship them.The UPS stores won't touch them. The truck will drop them off at my home though.
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However, some still do- even pack them up for the customer. Either they'd rather risk their franchise over a few bucks, or have an employee that doesn't know the rules...
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I got a Fedex account a few years ago. I do the packing, labeling, and paperwork and just drop the box off at the nearest Fedex location. Easiest process in the world, and cheaper. No hassles from any counter people.
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And NEVER lie about it being "machine parts" or similar..............
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So I went yesterday, fully prepared with licenses. Either the guy an NRA member or the hub I went to is really lax. The guy didn't ask for anything, just asked what's in the box. I said an antique long rifle and he didn't even bat an eye...done.
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Either he didn't know the "rules"- or he did... The overwhelming majority (some rare exceptions) of 1898 and earlier "antiques" (long rifle, or handgun) is NOT a "firearm". You didn't state in your original post that it was an antique. No FFL license was even needed- and no background checks, 4473's, etc. are done on them. They do not fall under the purview of the GCA. You were not shipping a firearm, so no special requirements.
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To be concise, I generally use the phrase "legal antique" for the latter. AFAIK legal antiques may be shipped via FedEx and UPS without any significant restrictions, including to non-licensees, although I always recommend double-checking their tariffs to be certain. Due to a peculiar restriction in USPS Publication 52 § 432.2.a, an 03 FFL may not mail a legal antique handgun to anyone unless it is also C&R eligible, but this does not apply to rifles and shotguns; refer to the stickied shipment thread. Lastly, I believe that the "rare exceptions" spoken of by tobnpr are pre-1899 fixed-cartridge firearms that fall within the purview of the NFA. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. )
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