One more immigration rant.

[mthalo]

This is from another thread.

Spanish lingo should be outlawed; any sign with Spanish on it should be fair game for target shooting--no matter where it is. Anyone caught speaking spanish should be deported--and there should be a reward for turnin em in.

It's brilliant responses like this that make this site look like it's populated by nothing more than a bunch of uneducated, trigger-happy far right gun nuts.

Here's some advice to those who are of the "plant the land mines and man the machine guns mentality", not directed at any one individual.

It's spelled illegally, not illegaly.
We're talking about the border, not the boarder, which you want guarded, not gaurded.
I would expect that people so much in favor of making English the national language would at least make an effort to spell it correctly.

My apologies to those that are intelligently discussing this issue, I'm just fed up with level of stupidity this issue is bringing out in people.

[Rich Lucibella]

I don't often do this, but....
+1


Your post reminds me of the "Old" TFL!
Rich

[Marko Kloos]

In related news:

It's "amendment", not "ammendment".

"There" is a locative pronoun, "their" is a possessive pronoun and "they're" is a contraction. They are not interchangeable.

"Illeagle" is a large, sick bird, but only if you put a space between the second l and the e. Otherwise, it's not a word.

The apostrophe is used to denote ownership, or to form a contraction. It is not an indicator that the letter "s" is about to follow, and should not be used as such, nor to pluralize a word. "Rich's vein is about to pop out of his forehead" is proper use of the apostrophe. "The Illegal's are ruining our country" is incorrect use of the apostrophe.

[Redworm]

"There" is a locative pronoun, "their" is a possessive pronoun and "they're" is a contraction. They are not interchangeable.

http://www.threadless.com/product/29...,_Their,_There :P

[silicon wolverine]

Its funny how much poorer people's typing gets the more wilder the topic eh?

SW

[Rich Lucibella]

It's
wild
, eh?

[TheBluesMan]

...I'm just fed up with level of stupidity this issue is bringing out in people.

The topic does seem to be bringing forth many "I got a 'pinion an' a 'puter, and I'm not afeared of usin' 'em." types.

Here's a thinking-man's response to the problem; addressed as an open letter to Senator Bill Frist. Enjoy!

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=34286
Retired Border Patrolman Writes Open Letter to Sen. Bill Frist
Posted by PHX - David J. Stoddard on Friday April 7, 2006 at 8:09 pm MST

Dear Senator Frist:

There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

2. There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.

3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

6. The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

7. There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.

9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?

10. There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

11. It is racist to want secure borders. What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here?

There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010.

We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

David J. Stoddard

U.S. Border Patrol (RET)
Hereford, Arizona

[Al Norris]

Two things. The letter that Dave posted is real. It can be verified in several ways, the least of which is through snoops.com.

Secondly, Mr. Stoddard has actually testified twice before Congress on the illegal alien problem. First in March 18, l999 before the House Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims and next on February 22, 2002 before U.S. SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE, DRUG POLICY AND HUMAN RESOURCES.

Take a read on these, please.