Powder Cop

david5260 · October 29, 2013, 06:35 PM

I have a Lee Load Master press and am looking for a powder cop. Hornady makes one but if I'm not mistaken it's 5/8 dia. versus the 7/8 that is the basic Lee turret setup. Does anyone know of a cop that will fit the LLM?

Crunchy Frog · October 29, 2013, 07:28 PM

Midway USA's description of the Powder Cop die says that it has a standard 7/8 inch diameter thread.

My recommendation is to spend another pizza and get the RCBS Lockout Die instead. Set it and forget it; no need to watch the rod. If it detects an undercharge or overcharge it will stop you cold.

grandpawj · October 30, 2013, 12:36 AM

+1 for the RCBS lock out die, I use it for all my pistol reloads. I still recheck my charges about every dozen or so, and find that the lock out die does it's job. In the beginning I would be puzzled when my press locked up only to remember that the die was doing it's job. It will consistently catch a + or - .2 grain difference.

higgite · October 30, 2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by grandpawj

It will consistently catch a + or - .2 grain difference.

I wish I knew your secret to get an RCBS lockout die to be that sensitive, grandpa. Did you modify yours or did it come from the factory that sensitive? If I set mine to lockout at 4.8 grains or more of W231, it will pass any lesser amount down to about 2.0 grains. It's good for detecting and locking out a double charge or no charge, but not much else. But, since that's all RCBS claims it's good for anyway, it does operate as advertised, so no complaints here. But mine certainly won't detect +/- .2 grains. Would be nice.

Crashbox · October 31, 2013, 06:28 AM

Another +1 for the RCBS Lockout Die. Mine also will not catch a +/- 0.2 grain difference but it has caught powder bridging which usually results in about a half-charge for me.

Worth every penny.

F. Guffey · October 31, 2013, 11:00 AM

Lock out dies are designed for straight wall cases, powder dies are for bottle neck type cases.

To understand the lock out die is to understand the detent.

F. Guffey

GWS · October 31, 2013, 11:32 AM

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Lock out dies are designed for straight wall cases, powder dies are for bottle neck type cases.

Slightly important spec.

Another thread I read somewhere in the forums last night had a guy planning to buy a Lockout for his .308. Good luck with that. I can't find the thread this morning so I can't correct him.

Lockout sensitivity depends on type of powder and how easy it compresses....and whether you allow for compression in your adjusting procedure.

October 29, 2013, 06:35 PM	#1
david5260 Junior Member Join Date: August 30, 2013 Posts: 4	Powder Cop I have a Lee Load Master press and am looking for a powder cop. Hornady makes one but if I'm not mistaken it's 5/8 dia. versus the 7/8 that is the basic Lee turret setup. Does anyone know of a cop that will fit the LLM?

October 31, 2013, 06:28 AM	#5
Crashbox Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2009 Location: Lynden, Washington Posts: 199	Another +1 for the RCBS Lockout Die. Mine also will not catch a +/- 0.2 grain difference but it has caught powder bridging which usually results in about a half-charge for me. Worth every penny. __________________ Four Rugers, three SIG Sauers, assorted rifles. NRA, GOA and SAF Life Member.

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October 29, 2013, 07:28 PM	#2
Crunchy Frog Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 591	Midway USA's description of the Powder Cop die says that it has a standard 7/8 inch diameter thread. My recommendation is to spend another pizza and get the RCBS Lockout Die instead. Set it and forget it; no need to watch the rod. If it detects an undercharge or overcharge it will stop you cold.

October 30, 2013, 12:36 AM	#3
grandpawj Junior Member Join Date: February 21, 2011 Posts: 12	+1 for the RCBS lock out die, I use it for all my pistol reloads. I still recheck my charges about every dozen or so, and find that the lock out die does it's job. In the beginning I would be puzzled when my press locked up only to remember that the die was doing it's job. It will consistently catch a + or - .2 grain difference.

October 31, 2013, 11:00 AM	#6
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	Lock out dies are designed for straight wall cases, powder dies are for bottle neck type cases. To understand the lock out die is to understand the detent. F. Guffey