Best shotgun for shooting clays

fishblade2 · September 29, 2011, 12:27 PM

I just love shooting clay targets. I am getting better and before long will be shooting multiply clays in the air. I need a better shotgun and I was wondering what to look for. What are some of the best clay shooting shotguns that they make. Also what type of choke should I look for? Lastly is the type of choke or something that allows some of the clay shooters to load up to 12 shotshells in their gun? I am leaning towards a benelli supervinci but that seems more like a hunting gun. Don't know if it could be made into an awesome clay shooter or if it would be worth it..

Technosavant · September 29, 2011, 12:57 PM

Choke is constriction of the bore. Generally, the more choke, the tighter the pattern. The general progression from most open to tightest goes something like:

Cylinder
Skeet
Improved
Modified
Full

There's some in betweens too. But that's the usual list. Generally with clay games, the further out the range, the tighter the choke; skeet is shot with anywhere from cylinder to improved, trap tends to prefer improved or slightly tighter, and 5 stand/sporting clays may go with anywhere from a skeet choke to a modified (if a double barrel, the shooter might go with two different ones).

What kind of clays are you thinking about shooting? When you get into the nicer guns, there are some differences between them that can get important.

The most important part of picking out a shotgun for clay sports is the fit. Generally you see over/unders ruling the day, but there's a lot to be said for a decent semiauto. But if it doesn't fit you, you'll miss birds and wonder why you got nothing but air.

A good all around gun is the Browning Citori in one of its many incarnations, but again, it might not fit you well. So I'd recommend looking at semiautos or O/Us of decent quality that can handle some lighter loads (if you're shooting clay targets, you often want lighter loads so you can shoot more without fatigue; shooting standard 1 1/8 oz. target loads from a semiauto wears me out after 3 games, but I can shoot 7/8 light loads all day from my Citori). I'd look at Berettas, Brownings, Benellis, Remingtons (the 1100 is still a good clays gun, even if it's an old design). You can save money with a Stoeger or Mossberg or similar, but keep in mind that if you plan to shoot a lot you will likely grow frustrated with the cheap guns in rather short order.

BigJimP · September 29, 2011, 01:10 PM

+1 on what Technosavant said ...

No organized clays course - is going to let you load more than 2 shells at any one time !! So forget the 12 shell issue ....I don't know where you got that from??

Good clays guns ....
a. on a budget a good pump gun - $500 or so....
b. around $ 1,000 - $ 2,000 some good semi-autos ...Browning, Benelli, Beretta, etc ...have lots of options
c. $ 2,000 - $ 4,000 Browning and Beretta Over Unders..

My personal choice in a semi-auto would be the Benelli Super Sport in a 12ga with a 30" barrel / carbon fibre stock / Inertia system - with Comfort Tech recoil supression system. In my area its selling for around $ 1,875.

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/b...nd_sport_2.php

My personal choice in an O/U is a Browning Citori, XS Skeet model, 30" barrels with adj comb...list price is about $ 3,600 but its selling new for around $ 3,200.

http://www.browning.com/products/cat...-comb-firearms

But in general - most any shotgun with a 28" or 30" barrel --- that will hold 2 shells -- is a good clays gun. Built in adjustability is a big plus / so the gun hits where you look. Don't get too hung up with what the mfg thinks is a "field" gun, vs a "sporting clays" or a "skeet" gun ....most any of them are fine. But these days you get what you pay for in terms of shotguns ...lots of issues on lower end guns ...but with companies like Browning, Beretta, Benelli - they all give you a lot of gun for the money! Have fun in your search.

oneounceload · September 29, 2011, 01:47 PM

Sounds like a Tom Knapp wannabee

thinkingman · September 29, 2011, 02:51 PM

Aren't we all?

oneounceload · September 29, 2011, 03:48 PM

Nope, I'm a George Digweed wanna be.......................

BigJimP · September 29, 2011, 04:31 PM

Nope - Wendell Cherry ..for me ...since he's currently leading the Krieghoff All American points race ....( or any of the other big dogs in the top 25 ) .../ I see Bobby Fowler Jr is in the top 25 ( spending too much time teaching probably ) ....

..... or maybe Todd Bender.....

lambertsteeth · September 29, 2011, 06:08 PM

I agree with the Benelli Super Sport in an auto. If you prefer a wood stock, the Sport II. Extremely reliable guns.
If you aren't sure whether a gun fits you well, ask an experienced shooter for help. You'll find the clays crowd very willing to help you.

M4BGRINGO · September 29, 2011, 08:21 PM

I just started shooting Trap with my newly purchased Browning 525. I find it amazing that I can shoot 20-23 with my wifes Rem 870 or my Rem 1100 but only shoot 15-17 with the Browning. Really bummed about that. Guess I need more time with this gun. I bought the 870, 1100, another 1100 in 20 guage, and a Mossberg for less than I paid for that Browning......

But, on a positive note, it isn't the guns fault. I let another fellow use it for a round and he shot 23 of 25 and had never seen the gun before that round. I know the gun is capable, I know I am capable, now gotta get them both together!

Shooting clays is an addiction!

Dave McC · September 29, 2011, 08:37 PM

M4, it's almost certainly a fit issue. Time to pattern a bit and see if it's shooting where you're looking. The usual flagon of Mead says it isn't.

zippy13 · September 29, 2011, 10:49 PM

I suspect we've misinterpreted the OP's question. I think he's after a trick shooter's gun that he can use to toss up a bunch of clays and break them all before they hit the ground. Conventional target shooters know it takes a life time to master a gun that is capable of only two shots.

TheKlawMan · September 30, 2011, 12:49 AM

I think the OP is funning us.

LSnSC · September 30, 2011, 06:39 AM

M4BGRINGO,

Just because it has two barrels and is 4-5 times more expensive, doesnt mean you will shoot it well. I keep looking at O/U's simply but cant justify replacing my 391. It fits and I shoot it well. Just wish it didnt throw my good hulls on the ground.

BigBrute · September 30, 2011, 07:13 AM

Maybe I'm just cheap, but I use a Stoeger 2000 for clays and love it. Not as fancy as the Benellis or Brownings, but it has some very nice features.

M4BGRINGO · September 30, 2011, 10:46 AM

LSnSC, you are 100% correct. I did not think paying a lot for a gun would make me a better shooter. I bought this type of gun for Sporting Clays where we typically have one close and one far shot and wanted two different chokes for it.

I "cheated" one day and used two different guns. Did not do simultaneous pairs so I could switch between guns with two different setups. That worked just fine. That is the reason I wanted a 2 barrel gun.

I know the gun isn't the issue since a fellow shooter did 23 of 25 on his first try with the gun. It fits well, but I am so darn used to my Remmingtons I need time to get used to this gun now.

I call this gun my "Trophy Gun". Everyone loves it and wants to look at it, like a "Trophy Wife". And I feel just as silly using it since I stink with it and shoot really good with my $600 pump! Just like the 60 year old guys with the 30 year old wives..............

BigJimP · September 30, 2011, 12:20 PM

Picking a gun isn't about "how fancy" it is ....its about what fits / and what is its long term reliability.

M4 - a lot of shooters have issues with the Browning 525's / or 625's because of the amount of drop at the comb and heel ...they're beautiful guns ...but its time to get that thing to the pattern board and check your point of impact ( on both barrels ).

Putting a "jones pad" or some kind of adjustable butt plate on that gun might be all it takes to let you settle into it a little more / and bring those scores up where they belong. You might even need to go to some type of comb pad on that gun to bring the comb up a little bit...

TheKlawMan · September 30, 2011, 12:27 PM

Quote:

I just started shooting Trap with my newly purchased Browning 525. I find it amazing that I can shoot 20-23 with my wifes Rem 870 or my Rem 1100 but only shoot 15-17 with the Browning. Really bummed about that. Guess I need more time with this gun. I bought the 870, 1100, another 1100 in 20 guage, and a Mossberg for less than I paid for that Browning......

MB4Gringo. All I shoot is my 870 Express and am gettting to the point where I am breaking into the 20's and I am looking at getting a Browning O/U. A buddy that has been helping me pick a new gun out is telling me to expect it to take some time to get used to the O/U. It will come.

BigJimP · September 30, 2011, 12:43 PM

It will only come along ...." if it Fits" ....if it doesn't "fit" ....then it'll be a nightmare...

Shotguns do not come in one size fits all ..! It has to "fit" so it hits where you look ...or it will torture you / and it might beat the stuffing out of you...but yes, Klawman is right, the swing dynamics are also very different ( weight, overall length, rib height, length of pull, drop at comb and heel, forend is very different, how the trigger breaks, ..)....from your pump gun to the 525 ...

HKGuns · September 30, 2011, 10:02 PM

Beretta 391 fits most better than most. It also performs flawlessly. I swear by mine at the range and in the field.

fishblade2 · October 1, 2011, 01:59 AM

I have some questions that are from another site I posted this question on. I wanted to ask some different people. What is the difference, if there is one, between a Skeet gun and a Sporting Clays gun? Also what is your opinions on winchester Sx3 and mossberg 930 spx? I've heard that over and under is the way to go but why is this? Do they give more choke options?

BigJimP · October 1, 2011, 12:59 PM

Don't get hung up on what mfg's call a Skeet gun vs a Sporting Clays gun or a Field gun.....most any good general purpose gun can be used for everything.

In general again - as an all around gun ( for hunting, Skeet and Sporting) I like a 12ga, Over Under ( because I have 2 chokes - and can put what I want in each barrel), around 8 1/2 lbs, 30" barrels. An O/U like the Browning Citori XS Skeet model with the adj comb - is one gun that meets all those specs for me personally. But for you it could be a pump gun or a semi-auto. You are at a little disadvantage using a pump gun in skeet or sporting on followup shots on pairs of targets in the air at once. But if its just for fun - vs competition - its not a big deal.

O/U's in general - don't have shell cycling issues / where some pumps and semi-autos do have some. If you can break open an O/U and shove a shell into the chamber and close the gun - it'll probably fire both barrels.

Browning bought winchester a few yrs ago ...and then FN bought them both ...so all of the Win's look a lot, if not identical, to the Brownings. The SX3 is not a bad option ....but lots of others. I'm not personally big on anything Mossberg makes - but most of their models are probably ok for light use ( maybe 1,000 targets a yr or so )...in my opinion.

M4BGRINGO · October 1, 2011, 06:47 PM

I was told today to use the lower barrel for Trap Shooting. The guy that shot a round with my Browning used the lower barrel, I was using the upper. Don't know what difference it makes, but I will do that tomorrow.

I can't do much about the cheek well since this gun has a recoil system installed that includes the cheek well with it. I did shoy my FFL how I was holding the gun, he thinks I am shooting over the top of the targets. Shooting paper is so much easier, you can see where you are hitting instantly!

My wife and I can both shoot doubles with her 870. It is kinda fun to have to reload while keeping your eye on the second target. I got pretty good at it, she isn't too bad either!

zippy13 · October 1, 2011, 06:53 PM

M4BGRINGP…

Using the lower barrel gives less kick from the rising barrel because of the reduced eccentricity. It is also advised that you use the lower barrel first when shooting doubles so you can get on the second target quicker.

lambertsteeth · October 1, 2011, 09:32 PM

BigJim brings up a very important point. If you are going to shoot a lot of clays, reliability needs to be very important to you. The gun must fit to hit what you are shooting at, but if the gun doesn't go BANG, it doesn't matter how well the gun fits you.
I am partial to autos.
I have spent a lot of money on autos.
Brownings and Berettas are less reliable than the Benellis. (in my personal experience)
I do own o/u guns. I consider my Benelli Sport IIs every bit as reliable as My Beretta O/Us.
I know many shooters who own both autos and o/u guns. Most consider their o/u guns to be more reliable.
In my neck of the woods, many shooters are trading Beretta autos in on Benellis due to reliability issues. I speak of shooters who are shooting in excess of 200 birds a week, every week.

M4BGRINGO · October 2, 2011, 04:21 PM

Well, tried the Browning again today. Shot with the lower barrel and an Improved Modified choke. Stunk the first round, 14 of 25. I was experimenting so I wasn't expecting much.

I then shot back to back 19's. Felt much better and knew why I missed most of them. One or two were *** did I do wrong, but all in all, did much better.

Had to finish the day with the wifes 870. Figures, I shot 21 of 25 with that one.

With more time I will get there with the Browning. That gun fits and feels really nice, I'll stick with it.

September 29, 2011, 12:27 PM	#1
fishblade2 Member Join Date: July 28, 2011 Posts: 21	Best shotgun for shooting clays I just love shooting clay targets. I am getting better and before long will be shooting multiply clays in the air. I need a better shotgun and I was wondering what to look for. What are some of the best clay shooting shotguns that they make. Also what type of choke should I look for? Lastly is the type of choke or something that allows some of the clay shooters to load up to 12 shotshells in their gun? I am leaning towards a benelli supervinci but that seems more like a hunting gun. Don't know if it could be made into an awesome clay shooter or if it would be worth it..

September 29, 2011, 04:31 PM	#7
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Nope - Wendell Cherry ..for me ...since he's currently leading the Krieghoff All American points race ....( or any of the other big dogs in the top 25 ) .../ I see Bobby Fowler Jr is in the top 25 ( spending too much time teaching probably ) .... ..... or maybe Todd Bender..... Last edited by BigJimP; September 29, 2011 at 05:42 PM.

September 29, 2011, 06:08 PM	#8
lambertsteeth Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2010 Location: steel city Posts: 272	I agree with the Benelli Super Sport in an auto. If you prefer a wood stock, the Sport II. Extremely reliable guns. If you aren't sure whether a gun fits you well, ask an experienced shooter for help. You'll find the clays crowd very willing to help you. __________________ One of God's greastest gifts to man is Dog.

October 1, 2011, 09:32 PM	#24
lambertsteeth Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2010 Location: steel city Posts: 272	BigJim brings up a very important point. If you are going to shoot a lot of clays, reliability needs to be very important to you. The gun must fit to hit what you are shooting at, but if the gun doesn't go BANG, it doesn't matter how well the gun fits you. I am partial to autos. I have spent a lot of money on autos. Brownings and Berettas are less reliable than the Benellis. (in my personal experience) I do own o/u guns. I consider my Benelli Sport IIs every bit as reliable as My Beretta O/Us. I know many shooters who own both autos and o/u guns. Most consider their o/u guns to be more reliable. In my neck of the woods, many shooters are trading Beretta autos in on Benellis due to reliability issues. I speak of shooters who are shooting in excess of 200 birds a week, every week. __________________ One of God's greastest gifts to man is Dog.

September 29, 2011, 12:57 PM	#2
Technosavant Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 4,040	Choke is constriction of the bore. Generally, the more choke, the tighter the pattern. The general progression from most open to tightest goes something like: Cylinder Skeet Improved Modified Full There's some in betweens too. But that's the usual list. Generally with clay games, the further out the range, the tighter the choke; skeet is shot with anywhere from cylinder to improved, trap tends to prefer improved or slightly tighter, and 5 stand/sporting clays may go with anywhere from a skeet choke to a modified (if a double barrel, the shooter might go with two different ones). What kind of clays are you thinking about shooting? When you get into the nicer guns, there are some differences between them that can get important. The most important part of picking out a shotgun for clay sports is the fit. Generally you see over/unders ruling the day, but there's a lot to be said for a decent semiauto. But if it doesn't fit you, you'll miss birds and wonder why you got nothing but air. A good all around gun is the Browning Citori in one of its many incarnations, but again, it might not fit you well. So I'd recommend looking at semiautos or O/Us of decent quality that can handle some lighter loads (if you're shooting clay targets, you often want lighter loads so you can shoot more without fatigue; shooting standard 1 1/8 oz. target loads from a semiauto wears me out after 3 games, but I can shoot 7/8 light loads all day from my Citori). I'd look at Berettas, Brownings, Benellis, Remingtons (the 1100 is still a good clays gun, even if it's an old design). You can save money with a Stoeger or Mossberg or similar, but keep in mind that if you plan to shoot a lot you will likely grow frustrated with the cheap guns in rather short order.

September 29, 2011, 01:10 PM	#3
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	+1 on what Technosavant said ... No organized clays course - is going to let you load more than 2 shells at any one time !! So forget the 12 shell issue ....I don't know where you got that from?? Good clays guns .... a. on a budget a good pump gun - $500 or so.... b. around $ 1,000 - $ 2,000 some good semi-autos ...Browning, Benelli, Beretta, etc ...have lots of options c. $ 2,000 - $ 4,000 Browning and Beretta Over Unders.. My personal choice in a semi-auto would be the Benelli Super Sport in a 12ga with a 30" barrel / carbon fibre stock / Inertia system - with Comfort Tech recoil supression system. In my area its selling for around $ 1,875. http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/b...nd_sport_2.php My personal choice in an O/U is a Browning Citori, XS Skeet model, 30" barrels with adj comb...list price is about $ 3,600 but its selling new for around $ 3,200. http://www.browning.com/products/cat...-comb-firearms But in general - most any shotgun with a 28" or 30" barrel --- that will hold 2 shells -- is a good clays gun. Built in adjustability is a big plus / so the gun hits where you look. Don't get too hung up with what the mfg thinks is a "field" gun, vs a "sporting clays" or a "skeet" gun ....most any of them are fine. But these days you get what you pay for in terms of shotguns ...lots of issues on lower end guns ...but with companies like Browning, Beretta, Benelli - they all give you a lot of gun for the money! Have fun in your search.

September 29, 2011, 01:47 PM	#4
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Sounds like a Tom Knapp wannabee

September 29, 2011, 02:51 PM	#5
thinkingman Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: western WA Posts: 691	Aren't we all?

September 29, 2011, 03:48 PM	#6
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Nope, I'm a George Digweed wanna be.......................

September 29, 2011, 08:21 PM	#9
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 256	I just started shooting Trap with my newly purchased Browning 525. I find it amazing that I can shoot 20-23 with my wifes Rem 870 or my Rem 1100 but only shoot 15-17 with the Browning. Really bummed about that. Guess I need more time with this gun. I bought the 870, 1100, another 1100 in 20 guage, and a Mossberg for less than I paid for that Browning...... But, on a positive note, it isn't the guns fault. I let another fellow use it for a round and he shot 23 of 25 and had never seen the gun before that round. I know the gun is capable, I know I am capable, now gotta get them both together! Shooting clays is an addiction!

September 29, 2011, 08:37 PM	#10
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	M4, it's almost certainly a fit issue. Time to pattern a bit and see if it's shooting where you're looking. The usual flagon of Mead says it isn't.

September 29, 2011, 10:49 PM	#11
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	I suspect we've misinterpreted the OP's question. I think he's after a trick shooter's gun that he can use to toss up a bunch of clays and break them all before they hit the ground. Conventional target shooters know it takes a life time to master a gun that is capable of only two shots.

September 30, 2011, 12:49 AM	#12
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,149	I think the OP is funning us.

September 30, 2011, 06:39 AM	#13
LSnSC Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2010 Posts: 514	M4BGRINGO, Just because it has two barrels and is 4-5 times more expensive, doesnt mean you will shoot it well. I keep looking at O/U's simply but cant justify replacing my 391. It fits and I shoot it well. Just wish it didnt throw my good hulls on the ground.

September 30, 2011, 07:13 AM	#14
BigBrute Member Join Date: September 14, 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 47	Maybe I'm just cheap, but I use a Stoeger 2000 for clays and love it. Not as fancy as the Benellis or Brownings, but it has some very nice features.

September 30, 2011, 10:46 AM	#15
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 256	LSnSC, you are 100% correct. I did not think paying a lot for a gun would make me a better shooter. I bought this type of gun for Sporting Clays where we typically have one close and one far shot and wanted two different chokes for it. I "cheated" one day and used two different guns. Did not do simultaneous pairs so I could switch between guns with two different setups. That worked just fine. That is the reason I wanted a 2 barrel gun. I know the gun isn't the issue since a fellow shooter did 23 of 25 on his first try with the gun. It fits well, but I am so darn used to my Remmingtons I need time to get used to this gun now. I call this gun my "Trophy Gun". Everyone loves it and wants to look at it, like a "Trophy Wife". And I feel just as silly using it since I stink with it and shoot really good with my $600 pump! Just like the 60 year old guys with the 30 year old wives..............

September 30, 2011, 12:20 PM	#16
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Picking a gun isn't about "how fancy" it is ....its about what fits / and what is its long term reliability. M4 - a lot of shooters have issues with the Browning 525's / or 625's because of the amount of drop at the comb and heel ...they're beautiful guns ...but its time to get that thing to the pattern board and check your point of impact ( on both barrels ). Putting a "jones pad" or some kind of adjustable butt plate on that gun might be all it takes to let you settle into it a little more / and bring those scores up where they belong. You might even need to go to some type of comb pad on that gun to bring the comb up a little bit...

September 30, 2011, 12:43 PM	#18
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	It will only come along ...." if it Fits" ....if it doesn't "fit" ....then it'll be a nightmare... Shotguns do not come in one size fits all ..! It has to "fit" so it hits where you look ...or it will torture you / and it might beat the stuffing out of you...but yes, Klawman is right, the swing dynamics are also very different ( weight, overall length, rib height, length of pull, drop at comb and heel, forend is very different, how the trigger breaks, ..)....from your pump gun to the 525 ...

September 30, 2011, 10:02 PM	#19
HKGuns Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2005 Location: Bora Bora Posts: 932	Beretta 391 fits most better than most. It also performs flawlessly. I swear by mine at the range and in the field.

October 1, 2011, 01:59 AM	#20
fishblade2 Member Join Date: July 28, 2011 Posts: 21	I have some questions that are from another site I posted this question on. I wanted to ask some different people. What is the difference, if there is one, between a Skeet gun and a Sporting Clays gun? Also what is your opinions on winchester Sx3 and mossberg 930 spx? I've heard that over and under is the way to go but why is this? Do they give more choke options?

October 1, 2011, 12:59 PM	#21
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Don't get hung up on what mfg's call a Skeet gun vs a Sporting Clays gun or a Field gun.....most any good general purpose gun can be used for everything. In general again - as an all around gun ( for hunting, Skeet and Sporting) I like a 12ga, Over Under ( because I have 2 chokes - and can put what I want in each barrel), around 8 1/2 lbs, 30" barrels. An O/U like the Browning Citori XS Skeet model with the adj comb - is one gun that meets all those specs for me personally. But for you it could be a pump gun or a semi-auto. You are at a little disadvantage using a pump gun in skeet or sporting on followup shots on pairs of targets in the air at once. But if its just for fun - vs competition - its not a big deal. O/U's in general - don't have shell cycling issues / where some pumps and semi-autos do have some. If you can break open an O/U and shove a shell into the chamber and close the gun - it'll probably fire both barrels. Browning bought winchester a few yrs ago ...and then FN bought them both ...so all of the Win's look a lot, if not identical, to the Brownings. The SX3 is not a bad option ....but lots of others. I'm not personally big on anything Mossberg makes - but most of their models are probably ok for light use ( maybe 1,000 targets a yr or so )...in my opinion.

October 1, 2011, 06:47 PM	#22
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 256	I was told today to use the lower barrel for Trap Shooting. The guy that shot a round with my Browning used the lower barrel, I was using the upper. Don't know what difference it makes, but I will do that tomorrow. I can't do much about the cheek well since this gun has a recoil system installed that includes the cheek well with it. I did shoy my FFL how I was holding the gun, he thinks I am shooting over the top of the targets. Shooting paper is so much easier, you can see where you are hitting instantly! My wife and I can both shoot doubles with her 870. It is kinda fun to have to reload while keeping your eye on the second target. I got pretty good at it, she isn't too bad either!

October 1, 2011, 06:53 PM	#23
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	M4BGRINGP… Using the lower barrel gives less kick from the rising barrel because of the reduced eccentricity. It is also advised that you use the lower barrel first when shooting doubles so you can get on the second target quicker.

October 2, 2011, 04:21 PM	#25
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 256	Well, tried the Browning again today. Shot with the lower barrel and an Improved Modified choke. Stunk the first round, 14 of 25. I was experimenting so I wasn't expecting much. I then shot back to back 19's. Felt much better and knew why I missed most of them. One or two were *** did I do wrong, but all in all, did much better. Had to finish the day with the wifes 870. Figures, I shot 21 of 25 with that one. With more time I will get there with the Browning. That gun fits and feels really nice, I'll stick with it.