DHS Endorsement of the AR15 "Sport rifle for personal defense"

HarrySchell · January 23, 2013, 03:52 PM

Yup. You read that right.

http://radioviceonline.com/departmen...sonal-defense/

h/t...The Calguns 2nd Amendment forum: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=686220

HarrySchell · January 23, 2013, 03:54 PM

"The United States Department of Homeland Security has stated a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO (compatible with .223) with a magazine capacity of 30 rounds is “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters…”

Well smack me up-side the head. First, a hat tip to Breitbart’s Awr Hawkins who pointed us to a posted General Services Administration (GSA) business opportunity solicitation posted and updated last summer. Basically, the site posts a request for proposal (RFP) for personal defense weapons for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)."

jason_iowa · January 23, 2013, 03:58 PM

We should be investing in gun safety, education and marksmanship as a country for all citizens. That would do far more good then any legislation restricting what we can own.

**Spats McGee** · January 23, 2013, 04:09 PM

Thanks for the article. It's a useful angle, from an argument perspective. "Apparently, DHS believes that select-fire .223s are suitable for personal defense . . . "

jpcmt · January 23, 2013, 04:34 PM

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We should be investing in gun safety, education and marksmanship as a country for all citizens. That would do far more good then any legislation restricting what we can own.

Exactly! Upgrade the CMP and start selling used M14s, M4s, and other military grade equipment. We'll be much closer to our armed friends in Switzerland, and we'll hopefully inherit greater security from...."gun violence!" lol

JimDandy · January 23, 2013, 04:54 PM

I'm not proposing we post a petition, but idly musing if we could collect enough people to get a petition on whitehouse.gov out of the initial hidden stage, to the searchable stage asking the President to ensure every American has the right to the very same weapon judged by HIS Homeland Security Department to be a suitable personal defense weapon....

Dr Big Bird PhD · January 23, 2013, 05:12 PM

For the first time since all of this nonsense has started, I am shocked.

jd70 · January 23, 2013, 05:31 PM

I wonder how this will and can be used by lawyers for heller and Miller. New York loop hole? If its recommended for homeland security. Could that also be used by the militia (you me? )

Alabama Shooter · January 23, 2013, 06:46 PM

Even a broken clock....

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The fire control selector shall have three positions; safe, semi-automatic, and automatic. The selector shall have positions which are clearly labeled for the mode of fire.

January 23, 2013, 03:52 PM	#1
HarrySchell Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2007 Location: South CA Posts: 566	DHS Endorsement of the AR15 "Sport rifle for personal defense" Yup. You read that right. http://radioviceonline.com/departmen...sonal-defense/ h/t...The Calguns 2nd Amendment forum: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=686220 __________________ Loyalty to petrified opinions never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world — and never will. — Mark Twain

January 23, 2013, 03:54 PM	#2
HarrySchell Senior Member Join Date: March 30, 2007 Location: South CA Posts: 566	"The United States Department of Homeland Security has stated a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO (compatible with .223) with a magazine capacity of 30 rounds is “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters…” Well smack me up-side the head. First, a hat tip to Breitbart’s Awr Hawkins who pointed us to a posted General Services Administration (GSA) business opportunity solicitation posted and updated last summer. Basically, the site posts a request for proposal (RFP) for personal defense weapons for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)." __________________ Loyalty to petrified opinions never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world — and never will. — Mark Twain

January 23, 2013, 04:09 PM	#4
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	Thanks for the article. It's a useful angle, from an argument perspective. "Apparently, DHS believes that select-fire .223s are suitable for personal defense . . . " __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

January 23, 2013, 05:12 PM	#7
Dr Big Bird PhD Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 779	For the first time since all of this nonsense has started, I am shocked. __________________ I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor

January 23, 2013, 03:58 PM	#3
jason_iowa Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 686	We should be investing in gun safety, education and marksmanship as a country for all citizens. That would do far more good then any legislation restricting what we can own.

January 23, 2013, 04:54 PM	#6
JimDandy Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2012 Posts: 2,556	I'm not proposing we post a petition, but idly musing if we could collect enough people to get a petition on whitehouse.gov out of the initial hidden stage, to the searchable stage asking the President to ensure every American has the right to the very same weapon judged by HIS Homeland Security Department to be a suitable personal defense weapon....

January 23, 2013, 05:31 PM	#8
jd70 Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 25	I wonder how this will and can be used by lawyers for heller and Miller. New York loop hole? If its recommended for homeland security. Could that also be used by the militia (you me? )