Another question on boar rifle

4thHorseman · November 19, 2002, 01:37 AM

I just read the post on the 308 round for boar. The county my son and I hunt in only allow .22 cal or shot gun. We hunted in the pass with 12 guage slug but this year we were thinking of a .223 or 22-250. The 12 guage shot gun with theslug kills from one end and wounds from the other. Painful to shoot and practice with.
What do you guys think? Is this round OK for a 200-250 pound boar? Which round do recommend?
Long Path do you have any more info on performance of the 22-250 for those hogs that guy shot?
A gun show is coming to town in a few weeks and I might get a 223 0r 22-250 rifle.

ckurts · November 19, 2002, 10:51 AM

I've seen 80-110 lb piglets killed graveyard dead with .223 and .22-250 both. Not sure about the bigger ones- but I've seen them killed with .30-06 and .444 Marlin. All of my hogs are in the small range and I use a .25-06.

C.R.Sam · November 19, 2002, 11:49 AM

You might also try backin down on the slug loads. If you can find a light load that will function and be accurate in YOUR gun, they don't have to hurt.

Sam

gordo b. · November 20, 2002, 11:07 PM

Have you ever been hog hunting? I would want at least new Win. 20 gauge slug and 12 ga would be preferable. Forget .22 unless behind ear in trap. Boars have gristle plate/mud cake which would blow .22 apart before it got to vitals. If you use .223 green tip penetrator rouds you will be pushing a needle thru inards, that ought to make them mad. Of course pack o dogs can stretch one out for a kill with knife if that blows up your skirt!

pilon · November 21, 2002, 06:03 PM

forget anything under .243 caliber for pigs under 200 pounds anything beyond 200 -250 pounds I belive that bere minimum is 6,5x55 and up.

Shotgun with slugs is a better choise.

I really interested wich smartone has invented that rediculious regulation.

November 21, 2002, 09:13 PM

Try a rifled 20 gauge shooting sabots.

Dave McC · November 22, 2002, 03:48 AM

4th, I'd use a slug in a 12 gauge after I learned how to shoot a shotgun properly, in your shoes. Check the Shotgun BB for stuff on slugs and dealing with recoil.

4thHorseman · November 24, 2002, 01:01 AM

Hey, guys, thanks for the good advice. I truely appreciate it.

pilon · November 24, 2002, 11:44 AM

If you have open terrain a rifle is verry tempting. I know with simmilar regulation elswere on the globe hunters us .22 calibre rifles with heavy bullets and.

.22 cal 80 -90 grains heavy bullet not target or vermit stile and barrel with 1:7 - 1:10 inches turn . high velocity around or over 3300 fps

5,6 x 57 RWS 4,7g (72 gr)Kegelspitz comes to my mind

But I still belive that shotgun with slugs is better.

Long Path · November 24, 2002, 12:34 PM

Seriously, most any centerfire .22 round to the ear is a decent hog killer. Hogs are not like deer, which have long serpentine-like necks that allow their heads to be in constant motion up and down, which seriously hurts your chances of making effective head shots. Hots ears stay pretty close to the same place in respect to the body. Any distance at which you can reliably hit a clay pigeon in the center disc with your centerfire .22 is good for popping hog. If you have a repeater, so much the better. DO NOT be tempted to take a non-headshot with a .22 rifle, of any caliber.

BluRidgDav · November 24, 2002, 07:57 PM

Hey there 4thHorseman,

Noticed that you're located in SE Virginia.
Most counties down that-away only allow shotguns & .22 RIMFIRES.
NOT .22 centerfires, as in .223, .22-250, etc.
I could be wrong, but wouldn't want it to be "explained" to ya by a game warden.

I wouldn't recommend ANY .22 for hogs, anyway.

BRD.

4thHorseman · November 25, 2002, 07:10 AM

BluRidgDav,
I live in South eastern VA but hunt the western part of the state. It is near the Piedmont area west of Richmond.
Regardless, though, I'll try some of the posters advice.
I seen some recoil shock absorbing type pads sold to slip over the shot gun butt. I'll try those too.
Thanks

BluRidgDav · November 25, 2002, 07:39 AM

Have you tried "Reduced Recoil" or "Tactical" 12ga. slugs?
They're a lot softer to shoot, yet still pack plenty of wallop at typical shotgun ranges.

BRD.

Cowdogpete · November 25, 2002, 10:04 AM

I really don't notice much difference between slugs, buck shot, and bird shot out of my 12ga. And I shoot shotguns alot!

WIth that said; IF you can shoot hogs with a .22 centerfire.... .223 or 22-250 will work if you stay at or under 200# hogs. I've shot a lot of hogs with my AR-15. I wouldn't try a bigger one than that though.

MeekAndMild · November 25, 2002, 11:23 AM

The only hogs I've ever seen shot were done in with a .22.

I passed up shots on a herd of 30 pound piglets this week when I was out deer hunting with a .270, figuring it would be my luck to shoot 2 or 3 then have Mama charge me when my gun was empty.

With this in mind I'm going to carry a .22 pistol with me the next trip out. With good shot placement a .22 long rifle hollow point is powerful enough for any eating sized pig. (You couldn't pay me to eat one of those big trophy sized hogs anyway.) A .22 pistol with a long barrel plus a deer rifle (or deer shotgun) gives the most options in the swamp where there are deer, piglets and bigger hogs.

hi-powerhal · November 26, 2002, 02:20 PM

My lease is overrun with hogs...Just with in the last 3-4 years. My choice is .270 win but 2 guys on the lease shoot .223 exclusively. They are excellent farm boy shooters and they always hit true. They pick the 100-150 pounders when the babies won't stand still. ALL of the big ones they punch run 20 yards or so and then give it up. Most shot low below the sholder, and they never exit. They loose the sholder roast on one side and a few ribs but to my knowledge never have they had one run plum off. Usually shot out to about 150 yards.

November 19, 2002, 01:37 AM	#1
4thHorseman Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2001 Posts: 698	Another question on boar rifle I just read the post on the 308 round for boar. The county my son and I hunt in only allow .22 cal or shot gun. We hunted in the pass with 12 guage slug but this year we were thinking of a .223 or 22-250. The 12 guage shot gun with theslug kills from one end and wounds from the other. Painful to shoot and practice with. What do you guys think? Is this round OK for a 200-250 pound boar? Which round do recommend? Long Path do you have any more info on performance of the 22-250 for those hogs that guy shot? A gun show is coming to town in a few weeks and I might get a 223 0r 22-250 rifle.

November 24, 2002, 12:34 PM	#10
Long Path Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: N. Texas Posts: 5,899	Seriously, most any centerfire .22 round to the ear is a decent hog killer. Hogs are not like deer, which have long serpentine-like necks that allow their heads to be in constant motion up and down, which seriously hurts your chances of making effective head shots. Hots ears stay pretty close to the same place in respect to the body. Any distance at which you can reliably hit a clay pigeon in the center disc with your centerfire .22 is good for popping hog. If you have a repeater, so much the better. DO NOT be tempted to take a non-headshot with a .22 rifle, of any caliber. __________________ "Welcome to The Firing Line, a virtual community dedicated to the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership."T.F.L. Policy Page Will you, too, be one who stands in the gap? ____________

November 24, 2002, 07:57 PM	#11
BluRidgDav Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2001 Posts: 314	Hey there 4thHorseman, Noticed that you're located in SE Virginia. Most counties down that-away only allow shotguns & .22 RIMFIRES. NOT .22 centerfires, as in .223, .22-250, etc. I could be wrong, but wouldn't want it to be "explained" to ya by a game warden. I wouldn't recommend ANY .22 for hogs, anyway. BRD. __________________ Watch your top-knot.

November 25, 2002, 07:39 AM	#13
BluRidgDav Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2001 Posts: 314	Have you tried "Reduced Recoil" or "Tactical" 12ga. slugs? They're a lot softer to shoot, yet still pack plenty of wallop at typical shotgun ranges. BRD. __________________ Watch your top-knot.

November 25, 2002, 10:04 AM	#14
Cowdogpete Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2002 Location: Bosque County, TX Posts: 265	I really don't notice much difference between slugs, buck shot, and bird shot out of my 12ga. And I shoot shotguns alot! WIth that said; IF you can shoot hogs with a .22 centerfire.... .223 or 22-250 will work if you stay at or under 200# hogs. I've shot a lot of hogs with my AR-15. I wouldn't try a bigger one than that though. __________________ Smoke on THR I love the smell of cordite in the morning.

November 19, 2002, 10:51 AM	#2
ckurts Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 1999 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 475	I've seen 80-110 lb piglets killed graveyard dead with .223 and .22-250 both. Not sure about the bigger ones- but I've seen them killed with .30-06 and .444 Marlin. All of my hogs are in the small range and I use a .25-06.

November 19, 2002, 11:49 AM	#3
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	You might also try backin down on the slug loads. If you can find a light load that will function and be accurate in YOUR gun, they don't have to hurt. Sam

November 20, 2002, 11:07 PM	#4
gordo b. Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2002 Location: Peoples republik of Calif. Posts: 961	Have you ever been hog hunting? I would want at least new Win. 20 gauge slug and 12 ga would be preferable. Forget .22 unless behind ear in trap. Boars have gristle plate/mud cake which would blow .22 apart before it got to vitals. If you use .223 green tip penetrator rouds you will be pushing a needle thru inards, that ought to make them mad. Of course pack o dogs can stretch one out for a kill with knife if that blows up your skirt!

November 21, 2002, 06:03 PM	#5
pilon Member Join Date: June 4, 2001 Posts: 35	forget anything under .243 caliber for pigs under 200 pounds anything beyond 200 -250 pounds I belive that bere minimum is 6,5x55 and up. Shotgun with slugs is a better choise. I really interested wich smartone has invented that rediculious regulation.

November 21, 2002, 09:13 PM	#6
KilgorII Guest Posts: n/a	Try a rifled 20 gauge shooting sabots.

November 22, 2002, 03:48 AM	#7
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	4th, I'd use a slug in a 12 gauge after I learned how to shoot a shotgun properly, in your shoes. Check the Shotgun BB for stuff on slugs and dealing with recoil.

November 24, 2002, 01:01 AM	#8
4thHorseman Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2001 Posts: 698	Hey, guys, thanks for the good advice. I truely appreciate it.

November 24, 2002, 11:44 AM	#9
pilon Member Join Date: June 4, 2001 Posts: 35	If you have open terrain a rifle is verry tempting. I know with simmilar regulation elswere on the globe hunters us .22 calibre rifles with heavy bullets and. .22 cal 80 -90 grains heavy bullet not target or vermit stile and barrel with 1:7 - 1:10 inches turn . high velocity around or over 3300 fps 5,6 x 57 RWS 4,7g (72 gr)Kegelspitz comes to my mind But I still belive that shotgun with slugs is better.

November 25, 2002, 07:10 AM	#12
4thHorseman Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2001 Posts: 698	BluRidgDav, I live in South eastern VA but hunt the western part of the state. It is near the Piedmont area west of Richmond. Regardless, though, I'll try some of the posters advice. I seen some recoil shock absorbing type pads sold to slip over the shot gun butt. I'll try those too. Thanks

November 25, 2002, 11:23 AM	#15
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	The only hogs I've ever seen shot were done in with a .22. I passed up shots on a herd of 30 pound piglets this week when I was out deer hunting with a .270, figuring it would be my luck to shoot 2 or 3 then have Mama charge me when my gun was empty. With this in mind I'm going to carry a .22 pistol with me the next trip out. With good shot placement a .22 long rifle hollow point is powerful enough for any eating sized pig. (You couldn't pay me to eat one of those big trophy sized hogs anyway.) A .22 pistol with a long barrel plus a deer rifle (or deer shotgun) gives the most options in the swamp where there are deer, piglets and bigger hogs. __________________ In a few years when the dust finally clears and people start counting their change there is a pretty good chance that President Obama may become known as The Great Absquatulator. You heard it first here on TFL.

November 26, 2002, 02:20 PM	#16
hi-powerhal Junior Member Join Date: July 23, 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 9	.223 - .22-250 is enough My lease is overrun with hogs...Just with in the last 3-4 years. My choice is .270 win but 2 guys on the lease shoot .223 exclusively. They are excellent farm boy shooters and they always hit true. They pick the 100-150 pounders when the babies won't stand still. ALL of the big ones they punch run 20 yards or so and then give it up. Most shot low below the sholder, and they never exit. They loose the sholder roast on one side and a few ribs but to my knowledge never have they had one run plum off. Usually shot out to about 150 yards.