August 8, 2012, 08:44 PM | #1 |
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Everyone knows we don't have any cougars in central Wisconsin right? Just ask the DNR.
HOWEVER, this trail camera pic of a very large cougar was taken one week ago right by my deerstand! We have wolf licenses now in Wisconsin. We also now need cougar licenses. |
August 8, 2012, 11:18 PM | #2 |
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If you want any more we will be happy to send you some from Washington. They have devestated the deer population in the area I usually hunt.
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Send them my way. I like the big kitties. They help keep coyotes out of the area, and don't have as much of an impact on big game as most people believe.
I'll take a pair of kitties over a dozen coyotes, any day. Quote:
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If an game animal is not listed then you can shoot it any time. After all there's no crime in killing something that doesn't exist.
BTW that is not a "very" large cat. they get bigger. |
August 9, 2012, 05:43 AM | #5 |
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If you have this cat hanging around to long. You may have to move your stand into the next county. I know from experience when a Timber wolf is out for a stroll and just passes by my deer feeder following fresh deer tracks and quickly moves on to other parts of his range as far as I know. The deer I see from day to day at that feeder are not seen for a solid week there after. I can imagine the same holds true for a big cat too.
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Don't these conspiracy theories get tiresome? They won't admit because they would need a mgmt plan, really? Come on!!!!
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/...ng-local-woods One of DNR's own cam's image and verification... http://blogs.twincities.com/outdoors...raphed-in-wis/ http://www.jsonline.com/sports/outdo...162986696.html With that said, let's get to the crux of the original claim. Who here thinks central Wisconsin is in Marquette County, Michigan? Please raise your hands. Who thinks the picture posted by warbirdlover right by his deer stand from last week is real? Raise your hands. Anyone wonder why warbirdlover's trail cam image from right next to his deer stand is so blurry and you can't read anything. Think maybe he got the image elsewhere, say from a low res image from June, not July of 2012, say from Michigan? Then maybe he posted it as his own? http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/C...z/-/index.html Dang if Margquette County, MI doesn't look exactly like central Wisconsin right next to warbirdlover's stand. Even the trees and the mountain lion seem to be exactly the same. Oh wait...they are. Given that the premise of the thread is based on warbirdlover's claim of this mountain lion being caught on camera Quote:
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August 9, 2012, 09:48 AM | #7 |
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FYI, Wis DNR has a sightings report page. This one would show up under their category of hoaxes, but apparently it was not submitted to Wis DNR by warbirdlover.
http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/WildlifeHabitat/cougar.html
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No. Your text looked no better than warbirdlover's. You see, you didn't use the sarcasm emoticon previously. Your text read like his condemnation of Wis. DNR.
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HaHa....Busted!
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Cougars in Oklahoma City,,,
This about 4 miles from where I grew up,,,
Me and my buddies used to ride our motorcycles out there. One article,,, another article. Aarond .
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I suggest everyone just take a deep breath and think about what they are posting before they post it because, for obvious reasons, staff is watching this thread VERY carefully.
Accusations have been levied, so we'll give warbirdlover a chance to respond to the accusations. This is not, however, going to become a "piling on" event, and I'll remind everyone of TFL's rules when responding to this thread.
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August 9, 2012, 07:06 PM | #13 |
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If you notice this article it is the same picture I put up but says Michigan. It also says it was photographed in southern Marquette county which is where I hunt. Only it's Wisconsin. I think someone "borrowe" Mark's picture and claimed it was Michigan.
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I think I posted this before. A coupla years ago there was a big deal made of a turkey hunter witnessing a cougar attack on a dairy cow here in central Wisconsin. This was next door to my Son's in laws. The attack was verified by the local and state DNR. Few days later my son's FIL saw strange tracks in their garden and called the DNR. The DNR came out and verified that they were cougar tracks. Following winter, the DNR contacted my brother and asked permission to place game cameras on his land because they had suspicions that there were several cougars in the area. He told them yes. Last fall there were several verified pictures taken of cats 15 minutes south of where I live. All of these things happened withing a radius of 40 miles. All were confirmed and verified without hesitation or conspiracy by the state. The Wisconsin DNR is not an evil Big Brother. They confirme sightings when they have solid information to prove the presence. They are hesitant to confirm without absolute proof because of instances of fake photos and claims made by folks looking for attention. There are enough real pictures taken of cougars in the last few years in Wisconsin, one does not have to "fake" them. I too am curious as to the origin of Warbirdlover's photo. Good detective work DNS.......
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I too have spent quite a bit of time in "southern Marquette County" only, it's the one in the U.P. of Michigan. This part of the story tends to makes me wonder if you friend Mark wasn't trying to pull something over on you.... Quote:
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The article says it is the picture from Michigan. The pic comes from the land owner and is confirmed by appropriate people who also verified the image location. Quote:
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August 9, 2012, 08:29 PM | #18 |
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My bet is that wbl's friend sent wbl one of those typical agitprop emails sent between people sharing political views, using slight lies or misrepresentations to bolster preconceptions.
Or maybe the two people quoted above by buck460 and DNS as verifying the location got lost on the way there and didn't notice driving through Chicago?
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Its true, Wisconsin DOES have a Marquette County and it IS in south central Wisconsin, but Michigan also has a Marquette County and its in the Upper Peninsula (which I've actually visited and camped in).
Normally I'd rush to stand by a fellow Wisconsinite but in this case, after thoroughly reading the article from Michigan, I have to say that something definitely does NOT smell right here. From the article about cougars in Michigan: Quote:
The other thing I have to wonder is the quality and clarity of the photograph. See my ex wife is a graphic designer and I used to work with her in her studio as a photographer for her. Whenever she needed source photos for her work I was sent out to take them. I know that regardless of how far technology advances you CAN NOT add detail and clarity to a photo that isn't already there. The stuff you see on CSI is just science fiction that they threw in there to make their cases solvable. In reality if you have a fuzzy pixellalted image you're going to keep on having a fuzzy and pixellated image no matter how much you sharpen the edges and lines. Simply put you can't put details into the picture that aren't already there to begin with unless you're doing some SERIOUS photoshopping and in that event there'd be clear differences. Even with computer extrapolation you can't go from the fuzzy little picture that the OP claims is the original and make it as clear, detailed and as large as the one in the Michigan article which the OP claims is the copy. Its simply not possible. You CAN however go the other way, take a clear and detailed picture, then make it fuzzy and smaller. This is usually done by people to obfuscate something in the picture... To put make it easy to understand if you start with a fuzzy picture you're going to stay with a fuzzy picture. If you start with a clear picture you will be able to make it fuzzy (which isn't really too hard actually).
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I wonder if we can expect a new rash of wolf threads with Snaggle Puss standing in for Lobo.
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The picture looks as if it is taken in an evergreen forest of some type. Are there many evergreen forests in Marquette Co, Wisconsin?
If I recall, WBL posted pictures of his stand earlier this year and it was in a deciduous forest. Not sure. I could be wrong as I have never been to southern Wisconsin.
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I'm still thinkin' the deception is not between Warbirdlover and us, but between WBL and his friend Mark. Just trying to give a fellow TFL member the benefit of the doubt.
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WBL....have you talked to you friend Mark yet? I've been thinkin' about this thread all day. If you go to the Wis/DNR website they have a good amount of info on cougars here in Wisconsin. This map Cougar Sightings in Wisconsin shows where the verified sightings have been in Wisconsin over the last few years. If you look at the 4 southern most sightings(Juneau, Jackson, Trempealeau and Buffalo counties) I'm kinda in the middle. I hunt Jackson, Monroe and Vernon counties. There is also a link on this page to report cougar sightings Report cougar sightings. I suggest you and/or Mark report your cougar so you can get Marquette County(Wisconsin) on the map. There are also some good stories if you click on the Hoaxes box about some of the many hoaxes and fraudulent cougar sighting claims made.
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Doofus, Cougars are a protected animal in Wisconsin so I hope you're not suggesting the illegal elimination of it. The last time a member here suggested the illegal elimination of an animal, the Mods closed down the thread. Since I want to see this thread go to some sort of conclusion as to who's picture of the cougars it really is, I again hope that's not what you're suggesting. |
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