Deer Hunting - South Texas Style

gunslinger1911ACP · January 26, 2006, 03:14 PM

http://www.loscuernos.com/Marrs%20Bowman%20111504.JPG

or go to:

http://www.loscuernos.com/2004%20200...Categories.htm and scroll down to the "Best Wome's Buck - Adult" and check out the 2nd place winner.

fisherman66 · January 26, 2006, 03:22 PM

I can't see the deer in the picture. One heck of a rack though.

FirstFreedom · January 28, 2006, 06:49 PM

Makes me wanna chase does - the 2-legged kind. It would almost be a pleasure being shot by her.

So is hers a ranch buck or free range?

Art Eatman · January 28, 2006, 08:42 PM

FirstFreedom, the wildlife biologists have found that whitetail deer live in an area of about one square mile, or 640 acres. They won't leave unless driven (dogs, etc.) but will return. They are known to die of starvation or thirst before they'll quit the home range.

So: For you, how big a pasture is needed for a deer to be called "free range"?

, Art

armedtotheteeth · January 29, 2006, 11:54 AM

+1 freedom, Uhm, Nice UHM "rack"

gunslinger1911ACP · January 30, 2006, 03:03 PM

This buck was taken on the 11,000 acre McClean-Bowman Ranch near Carrizo Springs, TX (approx 2 hrs SW of San Antonio). The shooter, Marrs Bowman, bagged this deer, which scored 184 5/8, on her family's ranch.

http://www.mcleanbowmanranch.com/

FirstFreedom · January 30, 2006, 04:47 PM

good point, Art. I guess 11K acres oughtta be plenty to make them free range as a practical matter, esp if you're not hunting the edges of the ranch.

Art Eatman · January 30, 2006, 09:35 PM

FF, many of these Texas ranches given to commercial trophy-rack hunting are four- or five- on up to over 20,000 acres. High fence is very expensive. the owners don't high-fence small pieces. The primary purpose of the high fence is to keep deer out, not in, since a lot of effort goes into not having more deer than the carrying capacity of the land will allow. Also consider the effort gone into in order that the buck-doe ratio is biologically sound.

These ranches have a lot of habitat enhancement efforts made on them. Brush clearing (partial), restoration of native plants, and water supply, among other efforts. There is commonly a use of mineral supplements as advised by wildlife biologists. So, to deer from neighboring, unimproved habitat, it's Smorgasbord! time--and you wind up with too many deer, which is bad for the habitat.

So, high fence.

Shifting emphasis--and terrain/vegetation: The State of Michigan once high-fenced a 100-acre, heavily-wooded tract. This was maybe 40 years ago. It was known that there were over fifty deer within this tract. Hunters were allowed to try their luck (I don't recall the number of hunters at any one time.) The success rate was near zero. Size of tract, as such, is not necessarily the criterion.

Art

shureshot0471 · January 31, 2006, 04:30 PM

HUUUUUUUUUHUUUUUUHUUUUUU She is beautiful

armedtotheteeth · January 31, 2006, 08:44 PM

WE all know she is beuatiful yes yes, somebody finally said it. Glad it wasnt me . I prefer brunnettes though., just me i guess

taralon · January 31, 2006, 08:54 PM

I've gotta say, I wouldn't mind seeing either of those either from, or in my treestand....

FirstFreedom · January 31, 2006, 10:44 PM

If she was my hunting bud, I'd not leave camp. Would give a new meaning to doing a morning 'drive'. Having a gal like that in deer camp would prevent some guys from going brokeback mountain. Is that a stabilizer for your bow in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? ...the jokes are endless.

January 28, 2006, 06:49 PM	#3
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	Bwa-ha. Makes me wanna chase does - the 2-legged kind. It would almost be a pleasure being shot by her. So is hers a ranch buck or free range?

January 31, 2006, 04:30 PM	#9
shureshot0471 Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2005 Location: In the sticks of East Texas Posts: 185	HUUUUUUUUUHUUUUUUHUUUUUU She is beautiful __________________ "Prefection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection, we can catch excellence." -Vince Lombardi "Gun control is putting that second bullet through the same hole the first one made." - Ted Nugent

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January 26, 2006, 03:22 PM	#2
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,679	I can't see the deer in the picture. One heck of a rack though.

January 28, 2006, 08:42 PM	#4
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	FirstFreedom, the wildlife biologists have found that whitetail deer live in an area of about one square mile, or 640 acres. They won't leave unless driven (dogs, etc.) but will return. They are known to die of starvation or thirst before they'll quit the home range. So: For you, how big a pasture is needed for a deer to be called "free range"? , Art

January 29, 2006, 11:54 AM	#5
armedtotheteeth Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2005 Location: podunk, Texas Posts: 1,610	+1 freedom, Uhm, Nice UHM "rack"

January 30, 2006, 03:03 PM	#6
gunslinger1911ACP Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 131	This buck was taken on the 11,000 acre McClean-Bowman Ranch near Carrizo Springs, TX (approx 2 hrs SW of San Antonio). The shooter, Marrs Bowman, bagged this deer, which scored 184 5/8, on her family's ranch. http://www.mcleanbowmanranch.com/

January 30, 2006, 04:47 PM	#7
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	good point, Art. I guess 11K acres oughtta be plenty to make them free range as a practical matter, esp if you're not hunting the edges of the ranch.

January 30, 2006, 09:35 PM	#8
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	FF, many of these Texas ranches given to commercial trophy-rack hunting are four- or five- on up to over 20,000 acres. High fence is very expensive. the owners don't high-fence small pieces. The primary purpose of the high fence is to keep deer out, not in, since a lot of effort goes into not having more deer than the carrying capacity of the land will allow. Also consider the effort gone into in order that the buck-doe ratio is biologically sound. These ranches have a lot of habitat enhancement efforts made on them. Brush clearing (partial), restoration of native plants, and water supply, among other efforts. There is commonly a use of mineral supplements as advised by wildlife biologists. So, to deer from neighboring, unimproved habitat, it's Smorgasbord! time--and you wind up with too many deer, which is bad for the habitat. So, high fence. Shifting emphasis--and terrain/vegetation: The State of Michigan once high-fenced a 100-acre, heavily-wooded tract. This was maybe 40 years ago. It was known that there were over fifty deer within this tract. Hunters were allowed to try their luck (I don't recall the number of hunters at any one time.) The success rate was near zero. Size of tract, as such, is not necessarily the criterion. Art

January 31, 2006, 08:44 PM	#10
armedtotheteeth Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2005 Location: podunk, Texas Posts: 1,610	WE all know she is beuatiful yes yes, somebody finally said it. Glad it wasnt me . I prefer brunnettes though., just me i guess

January 31, 2006, 08:54 PM	#11
taralon Member Join Date: October 21, 2004 Posts: 88	I've gotta say, I wouldn't mind seeing either of those either from, or in my treestand....

January 31, 2006, 10:44 PM	#12
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	If she was my hunting bud, I'd not leave camp. Would give a new meaning to doing a morning 'drive'. Having a gal like that in deer camp would prevent some guys from going brokeback mountain. Is that a stabilizer for your bow in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? ...the jokes are endless.