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March 16, 2008, 07:59 PM | #51 |
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Hey now dont forget Colorado!!!! Gun laws here are virtually non existant.
CCW and open carry is legal. Only a standard NICS check is required to buy rifles, shotguns, handguns. And you can buy as many as you want at one time with only one background check, as often as your wallet allows. NO waiting periods!!!! NO permits!!! Private FTF gun sales are legal with no background check or bind book logging required Castle Doctrine/Make my day law in effect You can legally carry a gun in your car and to work. Colorado State law also states that no City or County law concerning firearms can overrride a state law. Plus all the National Forrrest in the Rocky Mtns you could ever want to shoot in!!! Bradys Website gave us a D- so we must be doing something right!!! |
March 16, 2008, 08:05 PM | #52 |
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i am sorry to hear about your friend DEAD. having a legal firearm with no ammo in the vehicle and getting arrested is crazy. it makes no sense to me how that happened. unless there was circumstances that caused them to be the way they were to him. i wasn't there so i don't know what happened other than what you said.
when i transport mine there is no ammo in or on the firearm. there is a trigger or action lock on each of them. i go to the range or hunting area and make no stops to or from. i only go from a to b there is no c or d or in between. unless i get a deer or turkey during hunting season. then obviously i must stop at the checking station then i go home and remove the firearm from the vehicle and take the deer to the butcher shop. my ammo is usually in a vest or box. it stinks how from what i heard at a reputable gun shop that your firearms must be unloaded have a trigger or action lock on each one and must be locked in a sturdy cabinet or safe in your home/residence. not sure how true this is but will find out soon.if this is true then basically meaning that if you have a loaded/unloaded unlocked gun in your home on the bedroom wall or on/near your nightstand in case of break ins. you would be breaking the law :barf:. so when jimmy tutus busts my kitchen window and climbs into my home at 3 am. i gotta unlock a cabinet then unlock my gun then load it and by then hes got 2 of kids at gunpoint in their bedroom. all because some politician thinks its a bad idea for a good guy to be armed and ready in his home to defend it.
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March 16, 2008, 10:23 PM | #53 |
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Minnesota is good for gun owners. More NRA Members than any other State, and the politicians know it.
Our Carry law is either concealed or open carry, your choice. The permits are good for five years, and then you just need a brush up course to renew. If you have a Carry permit, there is no waiting to buy a handgun. The DFL keeps a low profile on gun control around hear, and supports most of the pro-gun pro-hunting bills at the Capitol. A NEY vote on any pro-gun or pro-hunting bill gets a guy back to working in the private sector fairly quick in this State. Eric
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March 16, 2008, 10:34 PM | #54 | |
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VA isnt that bad. Getting a permit here was simple and most southren counties dont have any kind of waiting period.
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March 16, 2008, 11:58 PM | #55 |
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Good old PA.
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March 17, 2008, 12:03 AM | #56 |
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anywhere but california or new jersey
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March 17, 2008, 12:16 AM | #57 | |
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March 17, 2008, 08:08 AM | #58 |
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New Hampshire:
Open carry legal. Concealed Carry Permit: $10 and about two weeks for background checks and stuff. As long as you can legally buy a gun, you can get your permit. No training course required. I love going to Vermont, though. No permit needed for concealed carry, and I'm pretty sure open carry is okay. The way it should be. |
March 17, 2008, 08:40 AM | #59 |
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Vermont is great with regard to the laws. Basically, the only restriction is no silencers. There are a few other minor ones too.
The problem is that the gun culture is lacking for those of us who shoot as a hobby. Most people seem to be geared towards hunting, as opposed to shooting and most people shoot on their own land. If you want the big gun shows and indoor ranges and gun rentals and all that good stuff, Texas might be for you. I wouldn't trade though. I'd rather have the freedom and the low violent crime rate. Plus, we have NH right next door if we want to rent guns or shoot inside. |
March 17, 2008, 03:08 PM | #60 |
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New Hampshire-
No permit required for pistols or long guns, just an instant background check. No waiting period 18 for rifles, 21 for handguns No hi cap bans/assualt weapon bans Machine gun and surpressor friendly Open carry legal Shall Issue concealed carry, 10 dollars. No training required. |
March 17, 2008, 04:19 PM | #61 |
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Another + 1 for PA, even with Philadelphia. The Philadelphia legislators can kick and scream all they want, but it's still a city of PA and they must obey PA laws.
Unfortunately, how long this will last I can't say, the anti gun movement is getting stronger every single day. Shall issue LTCF - the only downside with this is that it's only for firearms, it's not a weapons permit, meaning you can't carry knives and such for defense No AWB no mag limits etc. even in "progressive" Philadelphia NFA friendly even in Philadelphia (although the police chief will 200% WILL NOT sign for you, if you establish a trust or get incorporated, he can kiss your ass) Open carry if you want to (outside of the city) As a matter of fact, I think Philly is one of the few "cities of the 1st class" still that have any pro gun laws at all because of PA.
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March 17, 2008, 06:49 PM | #62 |
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Michigan ain't bad.
I guess I'll be the first to mention Michigan. You have to jump through a few hoops, but once to have a CCW the laws are fairly lax. You can carry most anywhere, open carry is ok. Disclose you are carrying to a police officer when stopped. You must have a CCW if carrying in a car open or not. If not ithe gun must be locked in the trunk, and ammo stored separetely.Take a 8 hour CCW class, get a special ID card with picture. Can't carry in a bar if alcohol is the main money maker of the bar. Not too bad. Ranked low by the Brady people, so that is ok with me!
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March 17, 2008, 07:20 PM | #63 |
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Eric,
Minnesota could be a lot better! Should be able to keep a loaded handgun in car, Not have to get a permit to purchase, $100 for a carry permit + the $100 or more for the course. Oh well as long as we dont get any worse! I'm not sure how the "stand your gound law" is comeing along! |
March 17, 2008, 08:38 PM | #64 |
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....another +1 for Arizona. Went in to Wally-Mart other day to pick up some WinWB 9mm ammo and briefly chatted with a young fellow who OC a S&W 9mm. I CC a Starfire M43.
There were no posted signs at front door banning weapons, store greeter did not have a coronary at sight of his weapon, no one called SWAT, FBI, Homeland Security, Pima County Sheriffs or Tucson Police. No one freaked out screaming:"Man with a gun". Store did not go into lock down. |
March 17, 2008, 09:04 PM | #65 |
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AVOID ILLINOIS AT ALL COSTS!!!Illinois is one of the worst anti-gun states to ever exist thanks to the socialists of Chicago.
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March 17, 2008, 09:32 PM | #66 | |
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Here's why, you guys have a stupid law about "assault" type guns and how they need to meet certain length requirements with certain stocks needed to be welded in the open position, etc. Anyway, all the above you just mentioned sounds like one hoop too many.
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March 17, 2008, 09:58 PM | #67 |
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^You are right I didn't know that. Good think I don't own a sawed off shot gun.
Opinion No. 6280 March 20, 1985 PISTOLS: Firearm fully operable when folded or contracted with length of 30 inches or less as a pistol SHORT-BARRELED RIFLE: Rifle fully operable with stock folded or contracted as a ‘short-barreled rifle’ SHORT-BARRELED SHOTGUN: Shotgun fully operable with stock folded or contracted as a ‘short-barreled shotgun’ WEAPONS: Firearm fully operable when folded or contracted with length of 30 inches or less as a pistol A firearm containing a stock capable of being contracted or folded to an overall length of 30 inches or less and being fully operable in such contracted or folded condition is a pistol requiring licensure for purchase, carrying or transport, and is subject to safety inspection. A rifle with a barrel of at least 16 inches in length and a stock capable of being contracted or folded to an overall length of less than 26 inches, being fully operable in such contracted or folded condition, is a ‘short-barreled rifle’ whose sale or possession is prohibited. A shotgun with a barrel of at least 18 inches in length and a stock capable of being contracted or folded to an overall length of less than 26 inches, being fully operable in such contracted or folded condition, is a ‘short-barreled shotgun’ whose sale or possession is prohibited. No. 6280 FIREARMS LAWS OF MICHIGAN — OPINIONS OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL 186
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March 17, 2008, 10:32 PM | #68 |
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+1 on North Dakota. No reason to move here though. The best things about this state are A. limited gun regulation and B. wide open space to shoot in.
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March 18, 2008, 12:47 AM | #69 | |
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Our goal should be laws like those of Vermont and Alaska where you don't need to pay fees and fill out endless paperwork to defend yourself. I think that goal is unreachable though since half of the CCWers I've met treat their little piece of paper like a superiority badge. The politicians were smart in that respect. Give someone a fancy document to laminate and a few extra privileges(that they're suppposed to have anyway) and they'll stop giving you problems. :barf: For well over a hundred years Americans defended themselves and their family without a permission slip. And in most cases, all the class covers is how not to shoot yourself while drawing the gun and how to wade through the labyrinth of laws devised to protect the criminal, screw you over and fill the pockets of the lawyers sitting patiently next to their police scanners. A CCW shouldn't be something we're proud of. It should be something we tolerate until this country remembers that a free man doesn't ask his government for permission, it asks for his.
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March 18, 2008, 10:47 PM | #70 |
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Thanks vt!! Thats how I feel too!
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March 19, 2008, 08:18 AM | #71 |
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Indiana!!! We also have lifetime carry permits and honor every other state's permits!!
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March 19, 2008, 09:17 AM | #72 |
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Alabama is a good one.
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March 19, 2008, 09:53 AM | #73 |
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Can you believe I forgot another positive for AZ? State pre-emption law, no political jurisdiction may enact laws more restrictive than the state. No checking local ordinances driving city to city. Tempe tried it some time ago, using the special event exception to declare thier downtown an ongoing "special event", got slapped down.
It's nice to be able to go into a store, pick out a sidearm, fill out the 4473 form, pick out ammo/holster/cleaning kit/etc while they make a 5 minute phone call required by Uncle Sugar, pay for everything, put the holster on your hip, go outside, load up, holster, and walk on about your business open carry or CCW with permit, legal as church on Sunday. |
March 19, 2008, 01:31 PM | #74 |
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i love the ability to buy a rifle over the counter and walk into the woods to shoot something.......hunters safety is free to take
ccw permit doesn't cost money, just fill in paperwork and they ship it to you no state waiting period on pistols, and if uzis are your thing full autos allowed
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March 21, 2008, 07:50 AM | #75 |
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PA If you pay the price, thats all this state cares about is the money honey.
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