Your favorite Mil-Surp Bolt Action

KROIL · October 6, 2009, 06:36 PM

Original Sights Please. My #3 choice is my 91/30 mosin nagant. My #2 choice is my US Model 1917. AAAAND MY #1 CHOICE IS my Turk mauser cuz I paid so little for it [$69] and it so easily accurate. On my list the K-31's-Enfield's-Mas 36's just dont hold the mo-jo. Each to their own.

RNB65 · October 6, 2009, 06:45 PM

The only one I own is a 1943 MN 91/30 which I bought because of cheap ammo. I enjoy shooting it, but I quickly get tired of having to manhandle that darn bolt.

My favorite is the SMLE No 4 Mk 1. I would love to own one if I could find one in reasonable condition and find a cheap source of .303 ammo. An ugly rifle to be sure, but I believe it was the very best of the military bolt guns.

Willie Lowman · October 6, 2009, 06:48 PM

Well if we are doing top 3,

3) M44 Mosin-Nagant

2) 03-A3 Smith Corona factory.

1) M48 Serbian Mauser. Just like a K98k but didn't suffer though a epic conflict. (history is cool but my M48 looks like it is brand new.)

GONIF · October 6, 2009, 06:55 PM

1896 sweedish mauser
k-31
k98

Chris_B · October 6, 2009, 07:12 PM

Willie, why the Smith-Corona in particular?

I would choose an 03-A3 myself

Kreyzhorse · October 6, 2009, 07:42 PM

I own a M44 Russian and a K-31 Swiss. Out of the two, the Swiss is by far my favorite. Accurate, fun to shoot and I love the straight pull on the bolt. Very cool rifle.

The Russian is great for what it is and fun it its own right, but it is rather clunky compared to the K-31.

abuyalos · October 6, 2009, 08:11 PM

My favorite is hands down my Enfield sporter. The .303 is a great deer round and these can be scooped up for less than $100 any day of the week.

darkgael · October 6, 2009, 08:34 PM

1)1903 Springfield
2) K31 Swiss
3) Mosin Nagant
Pete

Fat White Boy · October 6, 2009, 08:41 PM

I have Mosin Models 31-90, 38 and 44. Also a couple of K-98's, a Steyr, K-31 and an M-1 Garand. The K-31 is by far my favorite, without a doubt, the best engineered and highest manufacturing standards of the bolties. I am looking for an Enfield and also a 6.5 Swede...
Compared to the K-31, the Mosins are like clubs...

5whiskey · October 6, 2009, 08:53 PM

I've got to chime in and go with...

The M48 Yugo Mauser because it's cheap, ammos cheap, and it's a tad above "competent"(actually a little more accurate than the K98, but probably because the bore is in good shape)

The K31... it would be number 1 if the M48 wasn't so cheap to own/shoot.

I have to give a nod to the good ole 1903 springfield just because I'm American. If they were cheap (which one would think that they should be), It would probably rank higher. Cheap will only get you so far with guns though. Mosins are awesome and I love them, but the quality just isn't there compared to these rifles IMHO. (Still doesn't keep me from owning one and loving it)

22-rimfire · October 6, 2009, 08:56 PM

Mauser 45A. Yes, it's a 22 rimfire.

3StrikesNC · October 6, 2009, 08:57 PM

My favs are;

1) 03A3 - it's just soooo accurate,
2) 03A3 Sporterized - sooo acurate, but it was bubba'd.
3) 8mm Turkish Mauser - so cool, so old, just amazing (1.5" @ 100)
4) M44 Mosin-Nagant - just kool, but kicks like a mule.

fast-eddie · October 6, 2009, 09:39 PM

Mine is my carl gustov 1903 Swedish Mauser, It has the original diopter sight still, but either someone cut the barrell down to 20" or the it's the carbine version. Someone also cut down the stock as well. The front sight looks like it's the original though, so I'm not sure.

Mike U. · October 6, 2009, 09:46 PM

This one:

1944 Russian M-44. Absolutely love this weapon. It's a hoot to shoot and never fails to get a dropped jaw response from others at the range. Don't know why aside from the fact it's LOUD as hell and shoots a 6' long fireball.

4thPointofContact · October 6, 2009, 10:11 PM

I'm probably going to be one of the odd guys, mostly because it just barely rates as Mil-Surplus, but my favorite right now is a Ishapore 2A1 that was butchered into a 'jungle gun' by the importer.

Right now it wears a polymer stock, scout scope and has 3 working 12-round magazines.

the rifleer · October 6, 2009, 10:14 PM

k31 and m44, those are the two i have and love both of them dearly.

DnPRK · October 6, 2009, 10:15 PM

I'm torn between 3:
1896 Swedish Mauser
1909 Argentine Mauser
1912 Chilean Mauser

They make my 1917s, SMLEs, 1903s, A3s and 98Ks seem crude

Dave R · October 6, 2009, 10:40 PM

K-31
Enfield (what a great design)
Mauser (I consider the Springfield a subset of that)

Doc TH · October 6, 2009, 10:43 PM

Given the requirement of original sights, Id have to pick the 'O3-A3 mostly because of its fully adjustable receiver sights. But for strength, quality of build and smoothness of action I'd pick the German made 98K mauser.
Swedes are nice, but a more dated design than the 98.

ADB · October 6, 2009, 10:51 PM

I have only one milsurp bolt--in fact, my only milsurp rifle of any kind. It's an Ishapore 2A1, an Enfield Mark III in .308 Winchester. A little heavy in the foreend, but a damn fine shooter.

Samuel2001 · October 6, 2009, 10:54 PM

Wow! Some good choices there.
I'd have to go with a Spanish Guardia Civil FR-8 Mauser chambered in 7.62 NATO.

armsmaster270 · October 6, 2009, 11:02 PM

1. 1898 30-40 Krag Jorgensen slickest bolt of them all
2. Mk4 mod1 Enfield

raftman · October 6, 2009, 11:03 PM

I probably like it best because it's mine (though I have shot a few others), but nonetheless, the Russian M44. A ton of fun to shoot, rather handy when it comes to size, and extremely solid construction. It's the gun I've spent the least on and what I got out of it is worth at least 3 times what I paid.

Samuel2001 · October 6, 2009, 11:04 PM

Armsmaster, your cheating M1 Garand is a semiauto!

Grollen · October 7, 2009, 05:50 AM

1 Mauser K98
2 Enfield
3 Mosin Nagant 91/30
4 K31
5 K11

gtz

G. rollen

October 6, 2009, 06:55 PM	#4
GONIF Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2009 Location: PHOENIX IT'S A DRY HEAT AZ Posts: 844	1896 sweedish mauser k-31 k98 __________________ WHO ME ?

October 6, 2009, 07:42 PM	#6
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	I own a M44 Russian and a K-31 Swiss. Out of the two, the Swiss is by far my favorite. Accurate, fun to shoot and I love the straight pull on the bolt. Very cool rifle. The Russian is great for what it is and fun it its own right, but it is rather clunky compared to the K-31. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

October 6, 2009, 08:34 PM	#8
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	Fav mil surp 1)1903 Springfield 2) K31 Swiss 3) Mosin Nagant Pete __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

October 6, 2009, 09:39 PM	#13
fast-eddie Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2009 Location: Tigard Or, Posts: 342	Mines Mine is my carl gustov 1903 Swedish Mauser, It has the original diopter sight still, but either someone cut the barrell down to 20" or the it's the carbine version. Someone also cut down the stock as well. The front sight looks like it's the original though, so I'm not sure.

October 6, 2009, 09:46 PM	#14
Mike U. Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2007 Location: In Oz, next door to the Lollipop Guild's HQ Posts: 404	This one: 1944 Russian M-44. Absolutely love this weapon. It's a hoot to shoot and never fails to get a dropped jaw response from others at the range. Don't know why aside from the fact it's LOUD as hell and shoots a 6' long fireball. __________________ L'Chayim!

October 6, 2009, 06:36 PM	#1
KROIL Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2006 Posts: 306	Your favorite Mil-Surp Bolt Action Original Sights Please. My #3 choice is my 91/30 mosin nagant. My #2 choice is my US Model 1917. AAAAND MY #1 CHOICE IS my Turk mauser cuz I paid so little for it [$69] and it so easily accurate. On my list the K-31's-Enfield's-Mas 36's just dont hold the mo-jo. Each to their own.

October 6, 2009, 06:45 PM	#2
RNB65 Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 167	The only one I own is a 1943 MN 91/30 which I bought because of cheap ammo. I enjoy shooting it, but I quickly get tired of having to manhandle that darn bolt. My favorite is the SMLE No 4 Mk 1. I would love to own one if I could find one in reasonable condition and find a cheap source of .303 ammo. An ugly rifle to be sure, but I believe it was the very best of the military bolt guns. __________________ THR refugee.

October 6, 2009, 06:48 PM	#3
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Well if we are doing top 3, 3) M44 Mosin-Nagant 2) 03-A3 Smith Corona factory. 1) M48 Serbian Mauser. Just like a K98k but didn't suffer though a epic conflict. (history is cool but my M48 looks like it is brand new.) __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

October 6, 2009, 07:12 PM	#5
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	Willie, why the Smith-Corona in particular? I would choose an 03-A3 myself

October 6, 2009, 08:11 PM	#7
abuyalos Member Join Date: October 5, 2009 Location: Blacksburg, VA Posts: 28	My favorite is hands down my Enfield sporter. The .303 is a great deer round and these can be scooped up for less than $100 any day of the week.

October 6, 2009, 08:41 PM	#9
Fat White Boy Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2005 Posts: 1,276	I have Mosin Models 31-90, 38 and 44. Also a couple of K-98's, a Steyr, K-31 and an M-1 Garand. The K-31 is by far my favorite, without a doubt, the best engineered and highest manufacturing standards of the bolties. I am looking for an Enfield and also a 6.5 Swede... Compared to the K-31, the Mosins are like clubs...

October 6, 2009, 08:53 PM	#10
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	I've got to chime in and go with... The M48 Yugo Mauser because it's cheap, ammos cheap, and it's a tad above "competent"(actually a little more accurate than the K98, but probably because the bore is in good shape) The K31... it would be number 1 if the M48 wasn't so cheap to own/shoot. I have to give a nod to the good ole 1903 springfield just because I'm American. If they were cheap (which one would think that they should be), It would probably rank higher. Cheap will only get you so far with guns though. Mosins are awesome and I love them, but the quality just isn't there compared to these rifles IMHO. (Still doesn't keep me from owning one and loving it)

October 6, 2009, 08:56 PM	#11
22-rimfire Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 5,323	Mauser 45A. Yes, it's a 22 rimfire.

October 6, 2009, 08:57 PM	#12
3StrikesNC Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2007 Location: in a house Posts: 473	My favs are; 1) 03A3 - it's just soooo accurate, 2) 03A3 Sporterized - sooo acurate, but it was bubba'd. 3) 8mm Turkish Mauser - so cool, so old, just amazing (1.5" @ 100) 4) M44 Mosin-Nagant - just kool, but kicks like a mule.

October 6, 2009, 10:11 PM	#15
4thPointofContact Junior member Join Date: September 22, 2007 Posts: 197	I'm probably going to be one of the odd guys, mostly because it just barely rates as Mil-Surplus, but my favorite right now is a Ishapore 2A1 that was butchered into a 'jungle gun' by the importer. Right now it wears a polymer stock, scout scope and has 3 working 12-round magazines.

October 6, 2009, 10:14 PM	#16
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	k31 and m44, those are the two i have and love both of them dearly.

October 6, 2009, 10:15 PM	#17
DnPRK Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2001 Location: LC, Ca Posts: 1,917	I'm torn between 3: 1896 Swedish Mauser 1909 Argentine Mauser 1912 Chilean Mauser They make my 1917s, SMLEs, 1903s, A3s and 98Ks seem crude

October 6, 2009, 10:40 PM	#18
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2000 Location: Idaho Posts: 6,073	K-31 Enfield (what a great design) Mauser (I consider the Springfield a subset of that) __________________ I am Pro-Rights (on gun issues).

October 6, 2009, 10:43 PM	#19
Doc TH Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Posts: 633	Mil Surp bolt Given the requirement of original sights, Id have to pick the 'O3-A3 mostly because of its fully adjustable receiver sights. But for strength, quality of build and smoothness of action I'd pick the German made 98K mauser. Swedes are nice, but a more dated design than the 98.

October 6, 2009, 10:51 PM	#20
ADB Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2009 Posts: 399	I have only one milsurp bolt--in fact, my only milsurp rifle of any kind. It's an Ishapore 2A1, an Enfield Mark III in .308 Winchester. A little heavy in the foreend, but a damn fine shooter.

October 6, 2009, 10:54 PM	#21
Samuel2001 Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2001 Posts: 838	Wow! Some good choices there. I'd have to go with a Spanish Guardia Civil FR-8 Mauser chambered in 7.62 NATO. __________________ .45 ACP Because no matter how you try to rationalize it, 9mm is still for women and pansies. Build a bridge, and...GET OVER IT!

October 6, 2009, 11:02 PM	#22
armsmaster270 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,951	1. 1898 30-40 Krag Jorgensen slickest bolt of them all 2. Mk4 mod1 Enfield __________________ http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...aster270/Guns/ Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.

October 6, 2009, 11:03 PM	#23
raftman Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,890	I probably like it best because it's mine (though I have shot a few others), but nonetheless, the Russian M44. A ton of fun to shoot, rather handy when it comes to size, and extremely solid construction. It's the gun I've spent the least on and what I got out of it is worth at least 3 times what I paid.

October 6, 2009, 11:04 PM	#24
Samuel2001 Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2001 Posts: 838	Armsmaster, your cheating M1 Garand is a semiauto! __________________ .45 ACP Because no matter how you try to rationalize it, 9mm is still for women and pansies. Build a bridge, and...GET OVER IT!

October 7, 2009, 05:50 AM	#25
Grollen Junior Member Join Date: May 21, 2008 Posts: 14	MY Preference in Milsurp Bold: 1 Mauser K98 2 Enfield 3 Mosin Nagant 91/30 4 K31 5 K11 gtz G. rollen