I HATE the 12 gauge - Page 2

skydiver3346 · June 14, 2009, 10:13 AM

The Winchester "Ranger" .12 GA (reduced recoil buckshot) for your shotgun.

I just shot two boxes yesterday morning at my range and they were just as described by a friend of mine. Low recoil and had a nice pattern out of my Rem 870 with 18" barrel/imp cylinder. Good price too, $4.50/box
You won't be disappointed with these shells and they will still give you good self defense capabilities without the "kick".

Dr_2_B · June 14, 2009, 10:22 AM

Thanks for some great suggestions. I'm a little hard to fit because my arms are an inch shorter than most - doesn't sound like much but I think it matters.

I'm gonna get a recoil pad (one greatly helped my Mosin). Also gonna check out reduced recoil loads.

zippy13 · June 14, 2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_2_B

I'm a little hard to fit because my arms are an inch shorter than most - doesn't sound like much but I think it matters.

You're correct, an inch matters a lot when talking about length of pull. Remember, the factory stocks are designed for the "average" sized shooter. But, every gun manufacturer has a different idea about what's the "average" size.

With shorter arms, you're in a tough spot. You can always try adding temporary spacers if you want to give a longer stock a try; but, for a shorter stock, putting saw to good wood is pretty permanent and intimidating.

You didn't mention the model of your gun. If it's one of the popular ones, perhaps you can pick-up a cheapo ugly-duckling used stock and experiment. After you get it to where it fits perfectly, then you can transfer the dimensions to your good stock.

hogdogs · June 14, 2009, 12:16 PM

Possibly locate a "youth model" to see if the LOP siuts you better... May need a slight shim at the butt to get ideal LOP.
What is the gun in question that you shoot now?
Brent

Q!! · June 14, 2009, 12:59 PM

I agree with the other. I bet it's not the gauge of the gun, but rather an bad fit. 12 gauges normally aren't that bad in the recoil department. I would try to get the fit worked out. If that doesn't work get some reduced recoil loads, a recoil pad, and a semi-auto.

SPUSCG · June 14, 2009, 01:26 PM

Get a limbsaver or other recoil pad.....factory pads are rock hard and suck bad.

mp25ds4 · June 14, 2009, 01:49 PM

I would go with a knoxx stock and some reduced recoil ammo.
that should knock out about 80% of the recoil

Old Guard Dog · June 14, 2009, 07:54 PM

Good fit, good recoil pad, reduced recoil ammo, and even my wife likes shooting 12 ga, even a PGO with the proper loads!!!

oneounceload · June 14, 2009, 08:06 PM

OP - I'm going to reiterate my first post - WHAT are you shooting? What type of gun, what type of load, what is your purpose? There IS a major difference between shooting dove/quail with a light load versus HD with 00Buck versus no-tox for waterfowl.............

6x6pinz · June 15, 2009, 07:10 AM

Don't let anyone tell you that you need a 12ga. If it is not comfortable then get a 20. After all you are the one who will be shooting it and it needs top be comfortable to you.

Howaido · June 15, 2009, 02:26 PM

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Nothing turns a 12 into a crfeampuff if it still doesn't FIT. If you can't, (with an unloaded gun), close your eyes, mount your gun and be looking right at a predetermined spot, then it isn't fitting right. If you're one of the many Americans who do not fit the profile for "average", it won't fit you right.

The Specops has an adjustable LOP. My 5'1 wife and I use the same stock. Unless we are dealing with Zippy the Pinhead here, chances are it can be adjusted to fit.

earlthegoat2 · June 15, 2009, 09:21 PM

I dont own any 12 gauges. I dont think they are needed in the civilian world. All hunting included.

June 14, 2009, 10:13 AM	#26
skydiver3346 Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,222	Try this for your .23 GA: The Winchester "Ranger" .12 GA (reduced recoil buckshot) for your shotgun. I just shot two boxes yesterday morning at my range and they were just as described by a friend of mine. Low recoil and had a nice pattern out of my Rem 870 with 18" barrel/imp cylinder. Good price too, $4.50/box You won't be disappointed with these shells and they will still give you good self defense capabilities without the "kick".

June 14, 2009, 01:26 PM	#31
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	Get a limbsaver or other recoil pad.....factory pads are rock hard and suck bad. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

June 14, 2009, 01:49 PM	#32
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	I would go with a knoxx stock and some reduced recoil ammo. that should knock out about 80% of the recoil __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

June 15, 2009, 07:10 AM	#35
6x6pinz Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 152	Don't let anyone tell you that you need a 12ga. If it is not comfortable then get a 20. After all you are the one who will be shooting it and it needs top be comfortable to you. __________________ Friends don't let friends shoot Glocks

June 14, 2009, 10:22 AM	#27
Dr_2_B Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Location: midwest Posts: 502	Thanks for some great suggestions. I'm a little hard to fit because my arms are an inch shorter than most - doesn't sound like much but I think it matters. I'm gonna get a recoil pad (one greatly helped my Mosin). Also gonna check out reduced recoil loads.

June 14, 2009, 12:16 PM	#29
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Possibly locate a "youth model" to see if the LOP siuts you better... May need a slight shim at the butt to get ideal LOP. What is the gun in question that you shoot now? Brent

June 14, 2009, 12:59 PM	#30
Q!! Junior member Join Date: January 11, 2009 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 79	I agree with the other. I bet it's not the gauge of the gun, but rather an bad fit. 12 gauges normally aren't that bad in the recoil department. I would try to get the fit worked out. If that doesn't work get some reduced recoil loads, a recoil pad, and a semi-auto.

June 14, 2009, 07:54 PM	#33
Old Guard Dog Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 101	Good fit, good recoil pad, reduced recoil ammo, and even my wife likes shooting 12 ga, even a PGO with the proper loads!!!

June 14, 2009, 08:06 PM	#34
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	OP - I'm going to reiterate my first post - WHAT are you shooting? What type of gun, what type of load, what is your purpose? There IS a major difference between shooting dove/quail with a light load versus HD with 00Buck versus no-tox for waterfowl.............

June 15, 2009, 09:21 PM	#37
earlthegoat2 Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2009 Location: Lowcountry Posts: 373	I dont own any 12 gauges. I dont think they are needed in the civilian world. All hunting included.