I Need An Answer To Why Is The Mosin Nagant Is So Popular ?

BPowderkeg · February 25, 2012, 10:01 AM

Mosin Nagant

What is so fascinating about this rifle ? seems every gun forum i visit has Q's about this rifle. personally i do NOT like foreign military guns...., with one exception. i would love to own a Lugar, i had a chance to buy an UNFIRED 9mm American Eagle Lugar for $800.00.., i screwed up and passed it up.

does anyone here own a Lugar ? how would you rate it against any other 9mm pistol ?

Skadoosh · February 25, 2012, 10:09 AM

The Mosin Nagant is cheap and still plentiful.

okiewita40 · February 25, 2012, 10:11 AM

The thing with a M/N is they are cheap and powerful. Can be a lot of fun if you want to tinker too. As a plus the surplus ammo is cheap also. I have seen a few video's of guys shooting the M/N out to 800 yards. YMMV

emcon5 · February 25, 2012, 11:14 AM

They are cheap, and artifacts of the most historicly significant time period in recent history. And you can get a 880 round case of ammo for $140.

tobnpr · February 25, 2012, 11:19 AM

For me, it was the perfect choice to be able to have a fun project off a cheap, and quite accurate action that is also capable of long-range performance.
This rifle was fun to build- and yes, because I did the work myself, I have less "in it" than a comparable Savage or (fill in the blank).

Would the factory rifle be a bit more accurate? Yes...but mine is still capable of sub-minute accuracy with match grade handloads.

Others like to collect them because of the wide variations in history/markings. They are quite fascinating to collectors, but I do feel that the values of some have been overdone recently.

Overall, they're a fun rifle to shoot, the round is comparable to the 30.06 both in terms of power and accuracy. If you hunt, it will take any game on the continent. Where else are you gonna find that for under $100?

Father Time · February 25, 2012, 11:38 AM

The Mosin is popular because its cheap to buy and shoot and tough as nails.

And they have lots of different variations so if your into collecting they are good for that as well.

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does anyone here own a Lugar ? how would you rate it against any other 9mm pistol ?

The Luger (spelled with an E not an A btw) is a good pistol but its not as reliable or durable as modern 9mm handguns. Its got lots of parts and is kind complicated. But they are fun to shoot and the do have a certain visual appeal.

BigMikey76 · February 25, 2012, 11:48 AM

Cheap is the key word. They are proven rifles, and make either a good historical piece or a good base for building without spending an arm and a leg. Of course the build can add up if you start going crazy with it, but it doesn't have to, which makes the MN a good choice for a fairly wide variety of people.

tobnpr - nice looking rifle. What kind of stock is that?

RC20 · February 25, 2012, 11:51 AM

It seems the only reason you posted was to express you dislike of something that you have no interest in (and then make and exception so you can grouse about how you failed to get a foreign gun that you have decided is an exception to your distain.)

And that contributes to the forum how?

the rifleer · February 25, 2012, 11:56 AM

Don't buy one, it leave more for people that actually want one. you can buy a high powered rifle that shoots decently and 440 rounds of ammo all for less than $200 dollars. There is no deal anywhere else come comes close to that.

rickyrick · February 25, 2012, 12:30 PM

1. Cheap.
2. Powerful
3. Most are in good condition.
4. Fun.

kraigwy · February 25, 2012, 12:33 PM

It's cheap, its a piece of history, farily accurate (once you learn how to shoot it).

It allows anyone, regardless of income to shoot competition and be competitive.

Competition being the CMP GSM Vintage Military Matches.

I ran a CMP GSM match last spring, the guy who won just bought the Mosin and some surplus ammo the night before. First shots he fired out of his new Mosin was the sighters for the match.

KenLondregan · February 25, 2012, 12:49 PM

It’s currently $109 on budgun.com. For the price it’s hard to find a better rifle. Plus, these rifles are a piece of history. The only drawback I have noticed is that every listing online describes the rifles as being covered in cosmoline (a rust preventative applied before storage). I have never dealt with cosmoline before but it doesn’t sound like fun to remove. That is the only thing holding me back from getting one.

kraigwy · February 25, 2012, 02:02 PM

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I have never dealt with cosmoline before but it doesn’t sound like fun to remove. That is the only thing holding me back from getting one.

I've bought a lot of surplus rifles, bayonets 'n such, covered in cosmoline. I found kerosene is the best and easiest to remove that gunk, soak it, brush and wipe it away.

I certainly wouldn't let that stop me from buying a rifle.

publius · February 25, 2012, 03:07 PM

Cheap and I'm not sure running over it with a tank would ruin it.

Irish B · February 25, 2012, 03:41 PM

Cheap, powerful, and virtually indestructible. Cheap to mod too.

TX Hunter · February 25, 2012, 03:46 PM

I think everyone answered it, but they are alot of fun, and such a Rugged Rifle, great for hunting, very powerfull and so far I have not heard about anyone having trouble with them other than the ocasional sticky bolt, or shooting high. I like them in their original form, but have seen some really cool looking sporterized ones. This rifle works, as a matter of fact its been encountered on the battle fields of Afganastan and Irac in modern day combat.

Scorch · February 26, 2012, 04:13 AM

They're cheap, rugged, inexpensive to own and operate, fire cheap ammo, fairly powerful, and have the "other side" aura about them, whether you are referring to WW1, WW2, or the Cold War and its associated skirmishes (like the 1963-1975 Southeast Asia War Games).

Dr. Strangelove · February 26, 2012, 06:33 AM

Looks like you got your Mosin Nagant answers.

The Luger is a great pistol, to me one of the most beautiful ever designed. The German models are very reliable with the FMJ German Army standard ammunition they were designed to shoot, but modern ammo can cause problems.

The toggle design is very finicky as far as being clean and doesn't like mud, dirt, etc. It's a very heavy pistol for it's size and has a small magazine capacity.

I love 'em, but most any modern 9mm, even the venerable Browning Hi Power will eat it's lunch on anything except collector value.

Kreyzhorse · February 26, 2012, 07:05 AM

They are cheap and in great condition. Why wouldn't they be popular?

Tikirocker · February 26, 2012, 08:08 AM

There's no teaching someone to get it ... you either get it or you don't. Seems this post would have been better served discussing what you do like ... Lugers.

Tiki.

spyderdude · February 26, 2012, 08:55 AM

I think the Mosin Nagant is ugly as sin but for 100 dollars you get a rifle that fires a hard hitting round capable of reaching out to very long distances. I own a 91/30 and if I ever run out of ammo it'll make a superior club and spear with the bayonet attached!

Sarge · February 26, 2012, 09:12 AM

I grew up in the golden age of milsurp rifles, when wonderful old Mausers and '03s and SMLE's were abundant. So this recent obsession with one of that family's ugly sisters is perplexing to me as well.

You have to understand that today's shooter is far more media-driven... one good movie like Enemy at the Gates is all it takes for a gun to take on cult status. Beyond that, the Mosin is cheap, accurate enough and durable as hell. Add plentiful, cheap milsurp ammo and you have the star of the moment.

I remember when SKS rifles were everywhere for under $100 and Chicom ammo was cheap as sunshine. Everybody had one and everybody who didn't, wanted one.That all changed and the Mosin has replaced it.

Never be surprised when history repeats itself/

BPowderkeg · February 26, 2012, 09:16 AM

i want to thank everyone for your honest replies..., it is CHEAP !!

deerslayer303 · February 26, 2012, 09:28 AM

^^^ I'm with ya Sarge, I remember my Dad bought me my first hunting rifle when i was 14 ( an enfield no.4 mkI) He told me he paid 79.00 for it. Try touching one for that now. And when I turned 18 I bought a Norinco SKS for 80 buck at a gun show, they are what now 250? So yeah I am buying the heck out of Mosins right now,call me crazy but they won't be 100 bucks forever.

TX Hunter · February 26, 2012, 09:39 AM

If you dont like them nobody really cares.

February 25, 2012, 10:01 AM	#1
BPowderkeg Junior member Join Date: September 27, 2011 Posts: 382	I Need An Answer To Why Is The Mosin Nagant Is So Popular ? Mosin Nagant What is so fascinating about this rifle ? seems every gun forum i visit has Q's about this rifle. personally i do NOT like foreign military guns...., with one exception. i would love to own a Lugar, i had a chance to buy an UNFIRED 9mm American Eagle Lugar for $800.00.., i screwed up and passed it up. does anyone here own a Lugar ? how would you rate it against any other 9mm pistol ?

February 25, 2012, 10:09 AM	#2
Skadoosh Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2010 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,016	The Mosin Nagant is cheap and still plentiful. __________________ NRA Life Member USN Retired

February 25, 2012, 10:11 AM	#3
okiewita40 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 409	The thing with a M/N is they are cheap and powerful. Can be a lot of fun if you want to tinker too. As a plus the surplus ammo is cheap also. I have seen a few video's of guys shooting the M/N out to 800 yards. YMMV __________________ What on god's green earth do you think your doing?

February 25, 2012, 11:48 AM	#7
BigMikey76 Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 981	Cheap is the key word. They are proven rifles, and make either a good historical piece or a good base for building without spending an arm and a leg. Of course the build can add up if you start going crazy with it, but it doesn't have to, which makes the MN a good choice for a fairly wide variety of people. tobnpr - nice looking rifle. What kind of stock is that? __________________ Some people are like Slinkies - not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

February 25, 2012, 11:56 AM	#9
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	Don't buy one, it leave more for people that actually want one. you can buy a high powered rifle that shoots decently and 440 rounds of ammo all for less than $200 dollars. There is no deal anywhere else come comes close to that. __________________ There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.

February 25, 2012, 11:14 AM	#4
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 2,850	They are cheap, and artifacts of the most historicly significant time period in recent history. And you can get a 880 round case of ammo for $140.

February 25, 2012, 11:19 AM	#5
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	For me, it was the perfect choice to be able to have a fun project off a cheap, and quite accurate action that is also capable of long-range performance. This rifle was fun to build- and yes, because I did the work myself, I have less "in it" than a comparable Savage or (fill in the blank). Would the factory rifle be a bit more accurate? Yes...but mine is still capable of sub-minute accuracy with match grade handloads. Others like to collect them because of the wide variations in history/markings. They are quite fascinating to collectors, but I do feel that the values of some have been overdone recently. Overall, they're a fun rifle to shoot, the round is comparable to the 30.06 both in terms of power and accuracy. If you hunt, it will take any game on the continent. Where else are you gonna find that for under $100?

February 25, 2012, 11:51 AM	#8
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	It seems the only reason you posted was to express you dislike of something that you have no interest in (and then make and exception so you can grouse about how you failed to get a foreign gun that you have decided is an exception to your distain.) And that contributes to the forum how?

February 25, 2012, 12:30 PM	#10
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	1. Cheap. 2. Powerful 3. Most are in good condition. 4. Fun. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

February 25, 2012, 12:33 PM	#11
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	It's cheap, its a piece of history, farily accurate (once you learn how to shoot it). It allows anyone, regardless of income to shoot competition and be competitive. Competition being the CMP GSM Vintage Military Matches. I ran a CMP GSM match last spring, the guy who won just bought the Mosin and some surplus ammo the night before. First shots he fired out of his new Mosin was the sighters for the match. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

February 25, 2012, 12:49 PM	#12
KenLondregan Member Join Date: February 20, 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 64	It’s currently $109 on budgun.com. For the price it’s hard to find a better rifle. Plus, these rifles are a piece of history. The only drawback I have noticed is that every listing online describes the rifles as being covered in cosmoline (a rust preventative applied before storage). I have never dealt with cosmoline before but it doesn’t sound like fun to remove. That is the only thing holding me back from getting one.

February 25, 2012, 03:07 PM	#14
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	Cheap and I'm not sure running over it with a tank would ruin it. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain

February 25, 2012, 03:41 PM	#15
Irish B Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 359	Cheap, powerful, and virtually indestructible. Cheap to mod too. __________________ If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live

February 25, 2012, 03:46 PM	#16
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	I think everyone answered it, but they are alot of fun, and such a Rugged Rifle, great for hunting, very powerfull and so far I have not heard about anyone having trouble with them other than the ocasional sticky bolt, or shooting high. I like them in their original form, but have seen some really cool looking sporterized ones. This rifle works, as a matter of fact its been encountered on the battle fields of Afganastan and Irac in modern day combat.

February 26, 2012, 04:13 AM	#17
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	They're cheap, rugged, inexpensive to own and operate, fire cheap ammo, fairly powerful, and have the "other side" aura about them, whether you are referring to WW1, WW2, or the Cold War and its associated skirmishes (like the 1963-1975 Southeast Asia War Games). __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

February 26, 2012, 06:33 AM	#18
Dr. Strangelove Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2008 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 1,436	Looks like you got your Mosin Nagant answers. The Luger is a great pistol, to me one of the most beautiful ever designed. The German models are very reliable with the FMJ German Army standard ammunition they were designed to shoot, but modern ammo can cause problems. The toggle design is very finicky as far as being clean and doesn't like mud, dirt, etc. It's a very heavy pistol for it's size and has a small magazine capacity. I love 'em, but most any modern 9mm, even the venerable Browning Hi Power will eat it's lunch on anything except collector value. __________________ Just remember, when you pull the trigger, the bullets come out going very, very fast. So make sure to keep the weapon pointing away from you.

February 26, 2012, 07:05 AM	#19
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	They are cheap and in great condition. Why wouldn't they be popular? __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

February 26, 2012, 08:08 AM	#20
Tikirocker Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2007 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 909	There's no teaching someone to get it ... you either get it or you don't. Seems this post would have been better served discussing what you do like ... Lugers. Tiki. __________________ The Lee Enfield forums - http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=27 Surplus Rifle Forums - http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/index.php

February 26, 2012, 08:55 AM	#21
spyderdude Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Posts: 579	I think the Mosin Nagant is ugly as sin but for 100 dollars you get a rifle that fires a hard hitting round capable of reaching out to very long distances. I own a 91/30 and if I ever run out of ammo it'll make a superior club and spear with the bayonet attached!

February 26, 2012, 09:12 AM	#22
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	I grew up in the golden age of milsurp rifles, when wonderful old Mausers and '03s and SMLE's were abundant. So this recent obsession with one of that family's ugly sisters is perplexing to me as well. You have to understand that today's shooter is far more media-driven... one good movie like Enemy at the Gates is all it takes for a gun to take on cult status. Beyond that, the Mosin is cheap, accurate enough and durable as hell. Add plentiful, cheap milsurp ammo and you have the star of the moment. I remember when SKS rifles were everywhere for under $100 and Chicom ammo was cheap as sunshine. Everybody had one and everybody who didn't, wanted one.That all changed and the Mosin has replaced it. Never be surprised when history repeats itself/ __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

February 26, 2012, 09:16 AM	#23
BPowderkeg Junior member Join Date: September 27, 2011 Posts: 382	i want to thank everyone for your honest replies..., it is CHEAP !!

February 26, 2012, 09:28 AM	#24
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,652	^^^ I'm with ya Sarge, I remember my Dad bought me my first hunting rifle when i was 14 ( an enfield no.4 mkI) He told me he paid 79.00 for it. Try touching one for that now. And when I turned 18 I bought a Norinco SKS for 80 buck at a gun show, they are what now 250? So yeah I am buying the heck out of Mosins right now,call me crazy but they won't be 100 bucks forever.

February 26, 2012, 09:39 AM	#25
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	BpowderKeg If you dont like them nobody really cares.