WCC casings?

Six Shooter Steve · January 17, 2010, 01:09 PM

I have been lookin around on some auction sites to buy some once fired 9mm brass to reload, and have came across some brass marked WCC and is supposed military brass. Is this brass the same as commercial or is it something totally different? Thanks for any help you guys can provide for a rookie

rg1 · January 17, 2010, 01:23 PM

WCC 9MM brass that I bought had a crimped primer pocket. You'd have to remove the crimp by either swaging or cutting the crimped primer pocket. It has been good reloading brass.

Sam06 · January 17, 2010, 01:28 PM

WCC= Winchester Cartridge Company. The 9mm should not be crimped. Its good brass.

Six Shooter Steve · January 17, 2010, 01:39 PM

the auction had it posted as military brass with the year stamped beside the WCC. I am a newbie so if it has the crimped primer pockets, thats somethin I really dont want to get into right now.

rg1 · January 17, 2010, 02:22 PM

Here's a bad close-up of a WCC-01 9MM case head showing the crimped primer pocket. Sorry for the poor macro image. This case has been reloaded and the primer pocket was swaged.

jepp2 · January 17, 2010, 02:48 PM

I swage WCC, FC NT, and S&B brass. If you don't, you are going have a tough time priming. WCC & FC are crimped, S&B is just a very tight pocket with no radius.

medalguy · January 18, 2010, 10:27 PM

All military brass (except .30 carbine and match) has crimped primers and the crimp has to be removed or you will crush the new primer trying to insert it. Some commercial such as S&B also needs to be swaged. There are a number of tools to do this job, and some people say they can use a pocket knife to trim away the edge of the crimp. I never tried that. I use a Dillon Super Swager and it's fast and easy. It isn't cheap. RCBS and others make less expensive tools, but if you're going to do very much brass you might want to invest in the Dillon tool. The crimp only has to be removed one time.

You can also buy processed brass that has been resized, trimmed, and swaged. Or you can just try to buy commercial brass only, but generally there's at least a little military brass included. There is also a guy who will process your 9mm brass for you for 2-1/2 cents per piece, that includes deprime, resize, trim if needed, swage primer pocket, and tumble to a brite polish. Hard to beat that. He works under Custom Brass Processing in Abilene, Texas. He does other calibers too.

MR 8x57js · February 7, 2010, 09:48 PM

Six Shooter Steve
WCC is Mil-spec Winchester brass and it does it have a crimp in the primer pocket which must be removed before the new primer can be put in. It's very different from the Winchester commercial brass marked WIN in that the Mil-spec brass has les internual volume and a thicker head.

ForneyRider · February 8, 2010, 02:39 PM

If you are doing low volume or have tight budget, the RCBS swager die works.

Else have your brass processed for you or use the Dillon.

I did several hundred LC, FC, WCC in .223 and was worn out.

jimkim · February 8, 2010, 02:48 PM

WCC is Western Cartridge Company. http://www.igman.com/ammunition/codes/W/WCC-USA.html W-W is Winchester-Western.

hodaka · February 8, 2010, 03:25 PM

I've removed a lot of crimps with a pocket knife. Cut my fingers from time to time, too. Lately I've discovered that I have a perfectly sized drill bit that will take of the crimp without doing any damage to the pocket. Goes pretty fast and the price is right.

Nate1778 · February 8, 2010, 07:59 PM

Heavy crimp, I run into them from time to time and toss them.

January 17, 2010, 01:09 PM	#1
Six Shooter Steve Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2008 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 161	WCC casings? I have been lookin around on some auction sites to buy some once fired 9mm brass to reload, and have came across some brass marked WCC and is supposed military brass. Is this brass the same as commercial or is it something totally different? Thanks for any help you guys can provide for a rookie __________________ Six Sooter Steve {There is no problem that can't be solved by the use of high explosives}

January 17, 2010, 01:28 PM	#3
Sam06 Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2008 Location: Fayettenam Posts: 1,086	WCC= Winchester Cartridge Company. The 9mm should not be crimped. Its good brass. __________________ The two most abundant elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.

January 17, 2010, 01:39 PM	#4
Six Shooter Steve Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2008 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 161	the auction had it posted as military brass with the year stamped beside the WCC. I am a newbie so if it has the crimped primer pockets, thats somethin I really dont want to get into right now. __________________ Six Sooter Steve {There is no problem that can't be solved by the use of high explosives}

February 7, 2010, 09:48 PM	#8
MR 8x57js Member Join Date: February 7, 2010 Posts: 36	Six Shooter Steve WCC is Mil-spec Winchester brass and it does it have a crimp in the primer pocket which must be removed before the new primer can be put in. It's very different from the Winchester commercial brass marked WIN in that the Mil-spec brass has les internual volume and a thicker head. Last edited by MR 8x57js; February 8, 2010 at 03:34 PM.

February 8, 2010, 02:39 PM	#9
ForneyRider Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2007 Location: Forney, TX Posts: 725	If you are doing low volume or have tight budget, the RCBS swager die works. Else have your brass processed for you or use the Dillon. I did several hundred LC, FC, WCC in .223 and was worn out. __________________ When all is said and done, there is a lot more said than done.

January 17, 2010, 01:23 PM	#2
rg1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Posts: 1,125	WCC 9MM brass that I bought had a crimped primer pocket. You'd have to remove the crimp by either swaging or cutting the crimped primer pocket. It has been good reloading brass.

January 17, 2010, 02:22 PM	#5
rg1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Posts: 1,125	Here's a bad close-up of a WCC-01 9MM case head showing the crimped primer pocket. Sorry for the poor macro image. This case has been reloaded and the primer pocket was swaged.

January 17, 2010, 02:48 PM	#6
jepp2 Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2008 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 1,476	I swage WCC, FC NT, and S&B brass. If you don't, you are going have a tough time priming. WCC & FC are crimped, S&B is just a very tight pocket with no radius.

January 18, 2010, 10:27 PM	#7
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,033	All military brass (except .30 carbine and match) has crimped primers and the crimp has to be removed or you will crush the new primer trying to insert it. Some commercial such as S&B also needs to be swaged. There are a number of tools to do this job, and some people say they can use a pocket knife to trim away the edge of the crimp. I never tried that. I use a Dillon Super Swager and it's fast and easy. It isn't cheap. RCBS and others make less expensive tools, but if you're going to do very much brass you might want to invest in the Dillon tool. The crimp only has to be removed one time. You can also buy processed brass that has been resized, trimmed, and swaged. Or you can just try to buy commercial brass only, but generally there's at least a little military brass included. There is also a guy who will process your 9mm brass for you for 2-1/2 cents per piece, that includes deprime, resize, trim if needed, swage primer pocket, and tumble to a brite polish. Hard to beat that. He works under Custom Brass Processing in Abilene, Texas. He does other calibers too.

February 8, 2010, 02:48 PM	#10
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2008 Location: middle GA Posts: 326	WCC is Western Cartridge Company. http://www.igman.com/ammunition/codes/W/WCC-USA.html W-W is Winchester-Western. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007 gasoline $2.10 gal....HMMM?

February 8, 2010, 03:25 PM	#11
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	I've removed a lot of crimps with a pocket knife. Cut my fingers from time to time, too. Lately I've discovered that I have a perfectly sized drill bit that will take of the crimp without doing any damage to the pocket. Goes pretty fast and the price is right.

February 8, 2010, 07:59 PM	#12
Nate1778 Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Louisville Ky Posts: 312	Heavy crimp, I run into them from time to time and toss them. __________________ "And finally, the Baby Bear looked and he said, "Somebody's sleeping in my bed, and the bastard's still there!" But Goldylocks had a Remington semi-automatic, with a scope and a hair-trigger!"