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June 29, 2013, 07:00 PM | #1 |
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KS & MS Info. . . States Honoring Other States. . Happy 4th of July!
Happy “4th of July” to all and “Thank You” for all your assistance over the years. Handgunlaw.us is what it is because people just like you give me a heads up on changes in the laws of their states. I couldn’t do this by myself. Sorry for the long post but I believed everything needed stated. Gary Slider
July 1st brings many changes in Kansas and Mississippi plus other smaller changes in other states. Kansas July 1 will honor all other states. All State, County and City Buildings can get an exemption and have up to 5 years to install Medal detectors and have all entrances covered or they can no longer ban carry in those buildings. No Longer is any area outside a State, County or City building off limits. Kansas law also points out that a CCL holder if they do walk past a No Gun Sign have to be ask to leave first before they are in violation of any law. Mississippi new law allows open carry. A judge has put a hold on that law so until they have another hearing Open Carry will not be legal in Mississippi beginning Monday. I do not believe the stay on the new law will not last long. www.Handgunlaw.us will be updated with many new changes because of law changes in Kansas and Mississippi plus other smaller changes in a few other states late Sunday evening 6/30/31. Things have changed radically over the last 8 to 10 years. More states honor other states permit/licenses than ever before and it is getting better all the time. Here are some of the numbers! 3 states allow anyone who can legally own a firearm and is 21 to carry it concealed without any type of permit/license. AZ, AK & VT 1 state just allows its residents to carry concealed without any type of permit/license. WY 1 state allows those from the states of Arizona, Alaska, Wyoming and Vermont to carry on just their state issued Drivers License/State ID. Those 4 states have permitless carry and the State of Oklahoma allows those states residents to carry without a permit/license in Oklahoma since their state allows them to carry without any type of permit/license. Those from all other states must have any valid permit/license to carry in Oklahoma. 13 states honor all other states permit/licenses. ID, IN, IA, KS, KY, MI, MS, MO, NC, OK, SD, TN & UT. 2 More states will join the list of states that honor all other states permit/licenses in the next 6 weeks. AR & AL. That means a Grand Total of 18 states will honor all other states permit/licenses by the end of Aug 2013 or allow permitless carry. Many states honor 20, 30 and a couple honor more than 40 other states permit/license. Only 10 states plus DC, NYC and the U.S. Possessions do not honor any other states permit/license. CA, CT, HI, IL, MD, MA, NJ, NY, NYC, OR, RI, DC, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands & Puerto Rico. Of the states on this list CT though a May Issue state issues like a Shall Issue State. Some counties in CA and NY will issue to anyone who meets the criteria and OR is Shall Issue. Illinois will join the Issue states in the coming months. The bill on the Governor’s desk and is Shall Issue. Though they will not honor any other states permit/license the bill does allow for non-resident permit/licenses. The Governor has not signed or vetoed the bill at the time of this posting. Excluding Illinois as described above only DC, American Samoa and the Northern Marianas do not issue permit/licenses to carry. Some don’t realize that residents of the “American Possessions” are U.S. Citizens. Below is a chart showing how many states that state will honor. “CC” stands for Constitutional Carry + they honor all. “All” means they honor all other states. A number represents how many states they officially honor. You can view the complete chart at the link below. This chart is from Page 2 of the document. The first page lists states and who honors them. The second page lists the states and who they honor. http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USReciprocity.pdf # State 23 Alabama CC Alaska CC Arizona 38 Arkansas 0 California 30 Colorado 0 Connecticut 18 Delaware 0 DC 33 Florida 0 Guam 27 Georgia 0 Hawaii All Idaho 0 Illinois All Indiana All Iowa All Kansas All Kentucky 36 Louisiana 8 Maine 0 Maryland 0 Massachusetts All Michigan 15 Minnesota All Mississippi All Missouri 41 Montana 35 Nebraska 15 Nevada 22 New Hampshire 0 New Jersey 23 New Mexico 0 New York 0 New York City All North Carolina 36 North Dakota 23 Ohio All Oklahoma 0 Oregon 28 Pennsylvania 0 Puerto Rico 0 Rhode Island 18 South Carolina All South Dakota All Tennessee 41 Texas All Utah CC Vermont 0 US Virgin Islands 29 Virginia 11 Washington 24 West Virginia 33 Wisconsin 34 Wyoming
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June 29, 2013, 08:20 PM | #2 |
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Fabulous update, Gary!
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What does this mean? It means that I, a resident of a state that has no reciprocity with PA but used to be able to carry in PA based on a Florida permit, must now have a Pennsylvania permit to carry (concealed) in Pennsylvania. And that has become more difficult, too. In the past, a PA non-resident permit could be obtained and renewed by mail. Now, the applicant MUST appear in person. That means every five years I'll have to make a trip to some non-resident-friendly county in Pennsylvania, whether or not I have other reasons to be there. My PA permit is from Centre County, which is in the middle of the state and hours from anywhere. This change will be a major cramp in the tail for me, and for many other people. |
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The PA page at www.handgunlaw.us tells you that. The FL page also shows their non resident permit is not valid in PA anymore. Same with VA, MS, AZ and Maine as their non resident is not valid in PA anymore. It is impossible to put everything in one post.
That is not the only one. Ohio will not honor the AZ non resident permit. There are other items just like those that everyone who carries and travels needs to know.
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Yes, some of us are making that very argument. We don't want the foot of the feds in that door.
Do you understand why the Feds can't really push the REAL ID Act of 2005? To date (as of April 18, 2013) only 19 States have complied1. Drivers Licenses, ID cards and CCW permits are State activities by which the Feds have no constitutional control. Should it ever get to court (and it will, if the Feds persist), it will be struck down on 10A grounds. 1 Count Down to REAL ID |
June 30, 2013, 03:13 PM | #7 |
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I believe issuing a firearm (or "weapon") carry permit is an act of a state government, and as such should be covered by the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution. If it takes passing a law to force the states to honor the Constitution, I can't make myself see that as a bad thing.
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In New York (state), carry licenses are issued by county magistrates ... but they are still state licenses, and the magistrate is acting as an agent of the state in issuing (sometimes) the licenses. |
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