Lite Shotgun Shells

Ragtown · March 27, 2012, 11:47 AM

I need a source for .410 shotgun shells that have #7 1/2 or 8 shot, 1/2 OZ of shot or less, and 850 FPS to 900 FPS muzzel velosity. This is to teach a 6 year old to shoot Cowboy Action. I am not a reloader and know very little about balistics. Any ideas out there?

Buzzcook · March 27, 2012, 12:27 PM

You're going to have problems finding ammo at less than 1100fps.

Consider controlling recoil by other means.

zippy13 · March 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

Greetings Ragtown, and welcome aboard.

You may need to start reloading or get in touch with a custom reloader. If your 6-year old can't handle the recoil of standard .410-bore target loads, then you might look into rim-fire, or pistol caliber "snake" loads. Or, as Buzzcook mentioned, reduce recoil by other means (my heavy comp O/U with a JS recoil reducer makes .410s kick like an air rifle).

BigJimP · March 28, 2012, 01:56 PM

There is no recipe ....in the Hodgdon reloading manuals ...for a .410 load...using 2 1/2" hulls - that is less than 1200 fps ...../ and I can't say that I've ever seen a commercial shell in .410 at less than 1200 fps ...

...there are some loads in the book for 3" hulls - at 1100 fps and 1135 fps ...using 11/16 oz of shot ...

but a 1/16 oz less of shot ...and 100 fps less on velocity ...is going to give you a little reduction in recoil ...but probably not enough to matter.

Adding 1/2 lb to the gun ...if the child can handle the extra weight / which for a 6 yr old ..unless they are really big for their age is asking a lot .../ but 1/2 lb in gross weight on the gun will reduce recoil by about 10% ...

SHR970 · March 28, 2012, 07:00 PM

Closest you'll find to what you are asking for are available but hard to find and a bit spendy. The only thing I know of in the US is Gamebore "Traditional British" 2" 410 shells loaded with 5/16 oz. shot at 1330 fps.

One of the few places that have it is: Source If you look around a bit you might find another source or two.

markj · March 30, 2012, 04:18 PM

winchester black box is what you need. I shoot them in skeet and on quail. 10 bucks or so at bass pro locally.

March 27, 2012, 11:47 AM	#1
Ragtown Junior Member Join Date: March 27, 2012 Location: Post, Texas Posts: 1	Lite Shotgun Shells I need a source for .410 shotgun shells that have #7 1/2 or 8 shot, 1/2 OZ of shot or less, and 850 FPS to 900 FPS muzzel velosity. This is to teach a 6 year old to shoot Cowboy Action. I am not a reloader and know very little about balistics. Any ideas out there? __________________ Ragtown Kid Post, Texas

March 27, 2012, 12:27 PM	#2
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	You're going to have problems finding ammo at less than 1100fps. Consider controlling recoil by other means.

March 28, 2012, 12:20 PM	#3
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Greetings Ragtown, and welcome aboard. You may need to start reloading or get in touch with a custom reloader. If your 6-year old can't handle the recoil of standard .410-bore target loads, then you might look into rim-fire, or pistol caliber "snake" loads. Or, as Buzzcook mentioned, reduce recoil by other means (my heavy comp O/U with a JS recoil reducer makes .410s kick like an air rifle).

March 28, 2012, 01:56 PM	#4
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	There is no recipe ....in the Hodgdon reloading manuals ...for a .410 load...using 2 1/2" hulls - that is less than 1200 fps ...../ and I can't say that I've ever seen a commercial shell in .410 at less than 1200 fps ... ...there are some loads in the book for 3" hulls - at 1100 fps and 1135 fps ...using 11/16 oz of shot ... but a 1/16 oz less of shot ...and 100 fps less on velocity ...is going to give you a little reduction in recoil ...but probably not enough to matter. Adding 1/2 lb to the gun ...if the child can handle the extra weight / which for a 6 yr old ..unless they are really big for their age is asking a lot .../ but 1/2 lb in gross weight on the gun will reduce recoil by about 10% ...

March 28, 2012, 07:00 PM	#5
SHR970 Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Posts: 1,427	Closest you'll find to what you are asking for are available but hard to find and a bit spendy. The only thing I know of in the US is Gamebore "Traditional British" 2" 410 shells loaded with 5/16 oz. shot at 1330 fps. One of the few places that have it is: Source If you look around a bit you might find another source or two.

March 30, 2012, 04:18 PM	#6
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,971	winchester black box is what you need. I shoot them in skeet and on quail. 10 bucks or so at bass pro locally.