Shootin' With Aliens

B. Lahey · June 30, 2009, 08:07 PM

So I was shooting the breeze with one of my lawschool buddies today and he asked me what I did over the weekend. Naturally, I said "spent some time at the shooting range", and this seemed to interest him.

I figure I might take him to the range and bust some clays or punch some paper if he wants to (I bet he does).

He is a resident alien (originally from S. Korea). I looked around the ATF website and it seems like this would not be a problem. Heck, it looks like he could even buy a gun if he wanted to seeing as he has been a resident for much more than the required 90 days.

Am I missing anything? I haven't spotted any problems, but figured I would ask here in case there are non-apparent complications tucked away in some obscure corner of the law somewhere...

hogdogs · June 30, 2009, 08:26 PM

Title had me "hinky" I was worried you meant washed out green or ashy gray aliens... neither of which i would allow armed near me voluntarily! If just neutralized or naturalized with paper in pocket and caring heart in the bosom... fine by me!
Brent

Jim March · June 30, 2009, 09:57 PM

Yeah, legal alien residents, no problemo. Some states have attempted to discriminate along those lines and have been slapped down by the courts, WA state being the most recent, California all the way back in 1972:

http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/rappard.txt

With the similar win in WA state recently I'd be willing to say NO state can discriminate along those lines today.

HOWEVER, some states require a "gun owner's card" to be able to even handle ammo. IL comes to mind, I think there's others...NJ? NY?

Glenn E. Meyer · July 1, 2009, 08:51 AM

I don't know about other states but we've had foreign visitors at our club. Guys from China and Japan, for instance.

Seems to be a state question. Didn't some guy from Japan who practiced with Airsoft then come here and kick tushy at the national matches?

Big Ugly Tall Texan · July 1, 2009, 09:01 AM

I was an immigration inspector/Customs and Border Protection Officer for 12 years until my legs gave up on me and I had to move to this stupid desk, so I know the law.

LPRs can own firearms. There is no problem at all taking your friend to the range - unless he is going to be a shootee instead of a shooter.

June 30, 2009, 08:07 PM	#1
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	Shootin' With Aliens So I was shooting the breeze with one of my lawschool buddies today and he asked me what I did over the weekend. Naturally, I said "spent some time at the shooting range", and this seemed to interest him. I figure I might take him to the range and bust some clays or punch some paper if he wants to (I bet he does). He is a resident alien (originally from S. Korea). I looked around the ATF website and it seems like this would not be a problem. Heck, it looks like he could even buy a gun if he wanted to seeing as he has been a resident for much more than the required 90 days. Am I missing anything? I haven't spotted any problems, but figured I would ask here in case there are non-apparent complications tucked away in some obscure corner of the law somewhere... __________________ "A human being is primarily a bag for putting food into; the other functions and faculties may be more godlike, but in point of time they come afterwards." -George Orwell

June 30, 2009, 09:57 PM	#3
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	Yeah, legal alien residents, no problemo. Some states have attempted to discriminate along those lines and have been slapped down by the courts, WA state being the most recent, California all the way back in 1972: http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/rappard.txt With the similar win in WA state recently I'd be willing to say NO state can discriminate along those lines today. HOWEVER, some states require a "gun owner's card" to be able to even handle ammo. IL comes to mind, I think there's others...NJ? NY? __________________ Jim March

July 1, 2009, 08:51 AM	#4
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	I don't know about other states but we've had foreign visitors at our club. Guys from China and Japan, for instance. Seems to be a state question. Didn't some guy from Japan who practiced with Airsoft then come here and kick tushy at the national matches? __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

July 1, 2009, 09:01 AM	#5
Big Ugly Tall Texan Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 174	If he is a Lawful Permanent Resident, it's cool I was an immigration inspector/Customs and Border Protection Officer for 12 years until my legs gave up on me and I had to move to this stupid desk, so I know the law. LPRs can own firearms. There is no problem at all taking your friend to the range - unless he is going to be a shootee instead of a shooter. __________________ Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you! - Nikita Khrushchev Nikita K. made the prediction. Barry O. will make it come true. - Big Ugly Tall Texan "The 9mm Luger cartridge will simply not do for serious work." - Jeff Cooper "Do not throw rocks at people with guns." - Hastings' Third Law

June 30, 2009, 08:26 PM	#2
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Title had me "hinky" I was worried you meant washed out green or ashy gray aliens... neither of which i would allow armed near me voluntarily! If just neutralized or naturalized with paper in pocket and caring heart in the bosom... fine by me! Brent