American Gunsmithing Association?

jhgreasemonkey · August 2, 2006, 11:20 AM

I got an offer in the mail from these guys and wonder if its a rip off or the real deal. they claim with a $20 dollar membership you can get up to 30% off of AGI videos, hogue grips, and a few other companies. Plus a 6 month subscrition to the magazine. Can anyone verify this company? Thanks.

cntryboy1289 · August 2, 2006, 01:07 PM

I get it each month. It will contain a couple of inofrmative articles each month on take down of a specific gun, usually a tool or two with blueprints for it, an article on how to smith a particular problem with a gun, and an ask and answer section. Not to mention that you get the discount at Brownells, AGI, Numrich , and many otheres, you also can get gunsmithi8ng insurance if you need it through a company they use. Good shootin'

jhgreasemonkey · August 2, 2006, 02:11 PM

Okay thanks. I decided to subscribe. And its only $20 bucks.

cntryboy1289 · August 2, 2006, 03:23 PM

Save them because you never know when you might need them. It's only like 25 pages most of the time, but it has holes punched so it fits right into a 3 ring binder.

webbee · August 3, 2006, 03:07 AM

I find it quit informative. I was sceptical when pitched too, but if you have a need for this type of info it's a nice value at $20. Even at full price I continue it. But then I subscribe to computer magazines that cost as much. It's a nice savings at the mail order gun stores as others have said.

Lazy D · August 3, 2006, 07:08 PM

They make great reference material. Lots of schematics.

guncrank · August 19, 2006, 06:33 PM

I have been a member for years and it has not hurt me yet

**Unclenick** · August 19, 2006, 07:08 PM

Ditto.

Nick

**4V50 Gary** · August 22, 2006, 10:51 PM

It's a gunmag worth reading. I enjoy it too. You may want to check out some backissues.

UniversalFrost · August 26, 2006, 09:36 AM

interested.

Do they have a website or 800 # to request a copy or subscription?

Alakar · August 29, 2006, 12:00 AM

http://www.american-gunsmith.com/index.htm

UniversalFrost · August 29, 2006, 08:15 AM

thanks for the link , I just subscribed (only cost 19).

smokjunkee · August 29, 2006, 01:03 PM

Yeah, I like it also. It seems to have well-written & un-complicated text, especially for a real novice like myself. So I just sent in my renewal check for another year($34). It's worth it though.
Mark

Desert Vet · July 19, 2011, 06:19 PM

I've recently received one of the American GunSmithing Associations (AGA)letters as well, although I can't prove their not a legitimate organization, I can say they are not to be confused with American GunSmithing Institute (AGI) which is an outstanding and reputable organization. (AGA) sends you a an envelope requesting your CC information to join while not proving a phone#, E-Mail, or website. (AGI) has a large website and gives a great product with many discounts and free gifts for $19.99/yr for brass membership and even greater gifts, discounts, subscriptions for an additional $9.99/yr.
For their silver membership. For those asking how you may have gotten on their list, it's pretty simple. Most people on this site are all probably what? A: NRA members right! Now understand the NRA hates to admit it, but they are a lobbyist group meaning part of their funding comes from memberships/donations and the rest from solicitors. You know all that mail you get every year that you had to agree to receive but not be obligated to participate in. Now I'm not saying this was done intentionally by the NRA but these types of mailing lists have a way of finding their way into non-legitimate hands, see where I'm going with this. I am a card carrying NRA member because of what they do with their funding, not how they obtain their funds, it is up to you to discern whether an offer is legitimate or not, if asks for $ with no contact info in the trash it goes!

Hope this helps

triggerman770 · July 23, 2011, 11:10 AM

quote"Not to mention that you get the discount at Brownells, AGI, Numrich , and many otheres, you also can get gunsmithi8ng insurance if you need it through a company they use"
Brownells gives you a free catalog not a discount. Numerich stopped giving AGA discounts couple of years ago. But still has good info.
Articles by David Chiccione(spelling?) on the guns of the old west, and some of the more recent ones. R.K. Campbell is another gunsmith that contributes a lot.

skully · May 10, 2012, 06:07 PM

I hope to find out how the AGA is i just joined so we'll see.

**4V50 Gary** · May 10, 2012, 07:19 PM

Good point about AGA and AGI. AGA publishes American Gunsmith magazine which I subscribe to. When some issues didn't arrive because of an address change, I called AGI by mistake. That's when I learned the difference.

.

BTW, AGA got me the back issues that I missed.

AGI may have been started by my former instructor at Lassen College, Bob Dunlap. Their very first videos were by him. AGI used to advertise in AGA and they had a picture of Bob examining a handgun. The trouble was that when they printer punched out the holes for the magazine, they punched out where his eyes were!

It took a while before the ad was reformatted such that Bob kept his eyes. I bet he made a stink about that but it was the ad designer's fault in not working with the printer. I don't fault Bob at all and he is very skilled.

sarwiz · February 3, 2015, 10:46 AM

for many years and have received a lot of good and valuable information from their mag. Well worth the 34$ a year.

**4V50 Gary** · February 3, 2015, 07:05 PM

Sometime this year they're going to publish my article on the Henry AR-7 rifle and the feeding issues.

Anyway, one thing I like about the AR-7 is that you can make most broken or missing parts from steel stock. All you need is a drill, vise, file, a torch (to harden), kasenite and oil (to quench).

Dixie Gunsmithing · February 4, 2015, 12:02 PM

Did they ever change that photo in the gunsmithing by troubleshooting guide, which showed a 31 Remington cut-away, I think it was, for something else? In other words, the photo description and the photo didn't match.

August 2, 2006, 11:20 AM	#1
jhgreasemonkey Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 2,238	American Gunsmithing Association? I got an offer in the mail from these guys and wonder if its a rip off or the real deal. they claim with a $20 dollar membership you can get up to 30% off of AGI videos, hogue grips, and a few other companies. Plus a 6 month subscrition to the magazine. Can anyone verify this company? Thanks.

August 2, 2006, 01:07 PM	#2
cntryboy1289 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2004 Location: Ms Posts: 1,160	I like it myself I get it each month. It will contain a couple of inofrmative articles each month on take down of a specific gun, usually a tool or two with blueprints for it, an article on how to smith a particular problem with a gun, and an ask and answer section. Not to mention that you get the discount at Brownells, AGI, Numrich , and many otheres, you also can get gunsmithi8ng insurance if you need it through a company they use. Good shootin'

August 2, 2006, 03:23 PM	#4
cntryboy1289 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2004 Location: Ms Posts: 1,160	I think you'll like it Save them because you never know when you might need them. It's only like 25 pages most of the time, but it has holes punched so it fits right into a 3 ring binder.

August 3, 2006, 07:08 PM	#6
Lazy D Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Indian Territory Posts: 192	They make great reference material. Lots of schematics. __________________ "Fast is Fine but accuracy is final.".....Wyatt Earp.

August 19, 2006, 07:08 PM	#8
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,057	Ditto. Nick __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

August 2, 2006, 02:11 PM	#3
jhgreasemonkey Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 2,238	Okay thanks. I decided to subscribe. And its only $20 bucks.

August 3, 2006, 03:07 AM	#5
webbee Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2005 Posts: 218	I find it quit informative. I was sceptical when pitched too, but if you have a need for this type of info it's a nice value at $20. Even at full price I continue it. But then I subscribe to computer magazines that cost as much. It's a nice savings at the mail order gun stores as others have said.

August 19, 2006, 06:33 PM	#7
guncrank Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2006 Location: Fern Creek ,KY and Metro Louisville at large Posts: 430	I have been a member for years and it has not hurt me yet

August 22, 2006, 10:51 PM	#9
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	It's a gunmag worth reading. I enjoy it too. You may want to check out some backissues. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

August 26, 2006, 09:36 AM	#10
UniversalFrost Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,300	interested. Do they have a website or 800 # to request a copy or subscription? __________________ Lifetime member VFW and NRA "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (when all else fails play dead) -Red Green

August 29, 2006, 12:00 AM	#11
Alakar Member Join Date: July 27, 2006 Posts: 67	http://www.american-gunsmith.com/index.htm __________________ "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom; it is the arguments of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger

August 29, 2006, 08:15 AM	#12
UniversalFrost Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,300	thanks for the link , I just subscribed (only cost 19). __________________ Lifetime member VFW and NRA "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (when all else fails play dead) -Red Green

August 29, 2006, 01:03 PM	#13
smokjunkee Member Join Date: July 25, 2006 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 17	Yeah, I like it also. It seems to have well-written & un-complicated text, especially for a real novice like myself. So I just sent in my renewal check for another year($34). It's worth it though. Mark

July 19, 2011, 06:19 PM	#14
Desert Vet Junior Member Join Date: July 19, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1	American GunSmithing association(AGA) vs American GunSmithing Institute(AGI) I've recently received one of the American GunSmithing Associations (AGA)letters as well, although I can't prove their not a legitimate organization, I can say they are not to be confused with American GunSmithing Institute (AGI) which is an outstanding and reputable organization. (AGA) sends you a an envelope requesting your CC information to join while not proving a phone#, E-Mail, or website. (AGI) has a large website and gives a great product with many discounts and free gifts for $19.99/yr for brass membership and even greater gifts, discounts, subscriptions for an additional $9.99/yr. For their silver membership. For those asking how you may have gotten on their list, it's pretty simple. Most people on this site are all probably what? A: NRA members right! Now understand the NRA hates to admit it, but they are a lobbyist group meaning part of their funding comes from memberships/donations and the rest from solicitors. You know all that mail you get every year that you had to agree to receive but not be obligated to participate in. Now I'm not saying this was done intentionally by the NRA but these types of mailing lists have a way of finding their way into non-legitimate hands, see where I'm going with this. I am a card carrying NRA member because of what they do with their funding, not how they obtain their funds, it is up to you to discern whether an offer is legitimate or not, if asks for $ with no contact info in the trash it goes! Hope this helps __________________ -Freedom isn't free, ask a soldier-

July 23, 2011, 11:10 AM	#15
triggerman770 Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2009 Location: Metro Atlanta Area Posts: 125	AGA quote"Not to mention that you get the discount at Brownells, AGI, Numrich , and many otheres, you also can get gunsmithi8ng insurance if you need it through a company they use" Brownells gives you a free catalog not a discount. Numerich stopped giving AGA discounts couple of years ago. But still has good info. Articles by David Chiccione(spelling?) on the guns of the old west, and some of the more recent ones. R.K. Campbell is another gunsmith that contributes a lot. __________________ Small Arms Restoration, Inc. smallarmsrestoration.net Proud member of Georgia Carry.org www.georgiacarry.org

May 10, 2012, 06:07 PM	#16
skully Junior Member Join Date: April 21, 2012 Location: alabama Posts: 3	AGA I hope to find out how the AGA is i just joined so we'll see.

May 10, 2012, 07:19 PM	#17
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Good point about AGA and AGI. AGA publishes American Gunsmith magazine which I subscribe to. When some issues didn't arrive because of an address change, I called AGI by mistake. That's when I learned the difference. . BTW, AGA got me the back issues that I missed. AGI may have been started by my former instructor at Lassen College, Bob Dunlap. Their very first videos were by him. AGI used to advertise in AGA and they had a picture of Bob examining a handgun. The trouble was that when they printer punched out the holes for the magazine, they punched out where his eyes were! It took a while before the ad was reformatted such that Bob kept his eyes. I bet he made a stink about that but it was the ad designer's fault in not working with the printer. I don't fault Bob at all and he is very skilled. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 3, 2015, 10:46 AM	#18
sarwiz Junior Member Join Date: June 30, 2013 Posts: 1	Been a member for many years and have received a lot of good and valuable information from their mag. Well worth the 34$ a year.

February 3, 2015, 07:05 PM	#19
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Sometime this year they're going to publish my article on the Henry AR-7 rifle and the feeding issues. Anyway, one thing I like about the AR-7 is that you can make most broken or missing parts from steel stock. All you need is a drill, vise, file, a torch (to harden), kasenite and oil (to quench). __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 4, 2015, 12:02 PM	#20
Dixie Gunsmithing Moderator Emeritus Join Date: April 27, 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,923	Did they ever change that photo in the gunsmithing by troubleshooting guide, which showed a 31 Remington cut-away, I think it was, for something else? In other words, the photo description and the photo didn't match.

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