My Lil Cannon

Raider2000 · January 27, 2010, 09:42 PM

Well the latest in what I've done to my Pietta copy of a .44 caliber Remington NMA w/ 5.5" barrel.

Well as many here may remember I:
Reamed the chambers from .4460 - .4510
Opened up the nipple area for a Snail capper.
Opened up the loading window to accomodate the larger conicals for it.
Throated & Crowned the barrel.
Smoothed & Tuned the action.
Redesigned the Cylinder pin for removal from the short barrel.

With all of that I've turned this Lil Cannon into a Lee 220gr. Conical launching machine with capable accuracy w/ 28gr. FFFG Goex of 2.0" average benched at 25 yards.
Now to give it a nice worn slightly old look I've browned it.

So here ya go, my Lil Cannon.

simonkenton · January 27, 2010, 09:54 PM

Very good looking customized pistol!

Erich · January 27, 2010, 11:32 PM

I really like it!

Doc Hoy · January 28, 2010, 06:34 AM

This is great.....Are any photos available of the work in progress?

I would be very interested in seeing some of the techniques.

darkgael · January 28, 2010, 07:10 AM

Nice job. I'd like to have watched you do the work.
Pete

Raider2000 · January 28, 2010, 08:55 PM

Unfortunatly, hind sight is always 20/20 & I never taken any during the process pictures.
Sorry.

msnden · January 28, 2010, 09:37 PM

A work of Art!!!!!! beautiful, I raise a glass to you, Msn

toolslinger · January 30, 2010, 08:57 AM

Yow! Just extremely nifty. Is this the one with the jointed cylinder pin? Love the finish.

Raider2000 · January 30, 2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by toolslinger

Yow! Just extremely nifty. Is this the one with the jointed cylinder pin? Love the finish.

Yup that was the modification I did with the cylinder pin.

Thanx for the complements.

bedbugbilly · January 30, 2010, 02:50 PM

Raider2000 or others - I haven't handled one of these shorter barreled Remies - Great looking job Raider! Nice looking pistol. I have a question on the cylinder pin - with this length barrel, are you not able to pull the cylinder pin far enough forward to take the cylinder out? Why is it necessary - or why do you makee the alterations to the cylinder pin? I've heard of others altering the cylinder pin on theirs but I'm curious as to why it's done? Many thanks!

grubbylabs · January 30, 2010, 03:11 PM

Great looking gun. Very nice indeed.

Raider2000 · January 31, 2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bedbugbilly

Raider2000 or others - I haven't handled one of these shorter barreled Remies - Great looking job Raider! Nice looking pistol. I have a question on the cylinder pin - with this length barrel, are you not able to pull the cylinder pin far enough forward to take the cylinder out? Why is it necessary - or why do you makee the alterations to the cylinder pin? I've heard of others altering the cylinder pin on theirs but I'm curious as to why it's done? Many thanks!

Well with mine with the 5.5" barrel & the loading lever lug in place the cylinder pin does have plenty of room to remove the cylinder from the frame but when you clean it the areas around the pin has to be addressed more closely because you can not completely remove the pin from the gun because of the loading lever lug being in the way, I just made the modifications to the cylinder pin so that it could be completely removed for cleaning.

Now guys that have cut their barrels shorter than mine like 4.75" may have a slight issue getting the pin out far enough for the cylinder to be removed if the loading lever lug is in place & the pin was not modified like mine.

kozak6 · January 31, 2010, 05:58 AM

Seeing as how this is the black powder forum, I was hoping to see an actual cannon

.

Looks great, nice work.

bedbugbilly · January 31, 2010, 08:38 PM

Raider - thanks for the explanation - that all makes sense! I was wondering if the cylinder pin would hit the lug and not allow you to remove the cylinder but now I understand why you did what you did - which by the way, you did a terrific job on! I love the way your pistol looks - gives me incentive to get rid of some of the blue on mine! Many thanks! bedbug

noelf2 · January 31, 2010, 09:22 PM

Hey there Raider, haven't heard from you in a while. Nice looking remi !!! The browning looks awesome. Did you take off all the factory blue first? What did you use? I heard vinegar or lemon juice will take it mostly down to bare steel.

Raider2000 · January 31, 2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by noelf2

Hey there Raider, haven't heard from you in a while. Nice looking remi !!! The browning looks awesome. Did you take off all the factory blue first? What did you use? I heard vinegar or lemon juice will take it mostly down to bare steel.

Basically I used some 1000 grit paper to get it off in most places, I was looking for the old worn look & thought to experiment with leaving some of the old bluing on it which it turned out better than I expected.

Yeah been off & on here & there with the sights because of either work, family or on occasion hunting.

sewerman · February 2, 2010, 12:21 PM

your very talented...nice job!

bet there are folks out there that would want the same......

sewerman

greco · February 25, 2010, 01:32 PM

Man, thats a fine looking gun you got there... good job.

January 27, 2010, 09:42 PM	#1
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	My Lil Cannon Well the latest in what I've done to my Pietta copy of a .44 caliber Remington NMA w/ 5.5" barrel. Well as many here may remember I: Reamed the chambers from .4460 - .4510 Opened up the nipple area for a Snail capper. Opened up the loading window to accomodate the larger conicals for it. Throated & Crowned the barrel. Smoothed & Tuned the action. Redesigned the Cylinder pin for removal from the short barrel. With all of that I've turned this Lil Cannon into a Lee 220gr. Conical launching machine with capable accuracy w/ 28gr. FFFG Goex of 2.0" average benched at 25 yards. Now to give it a nice worn slightly old look I've browned it. So here ya go, my Lil Cannon.

January 28, 2010, 06:34 AM	#4
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Raider This is great.....Are any photos available of the work in progress? I would be very interested in seeing some of the techniques. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

January 28, 2010, 07:10 AM	#5
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	Nice Nice job. I'd like to have watched you do the work. Pete __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member

January 31, 2010, 09:22 PM	#15
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Hey there Raider, haven't heard from you in a while. Nice looking remi !!! The browning looks awesome. Did you take off all the factory blue first? What did you use? I heard vinegar or lemon juice will take it mostly down to bare steel. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

February 2, 2010, 12:21 PM	#17
sewerman Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2005 Location: hurricane alley, florida Posts: 304	your very talented...nice job! bet there are folks out there that would want the same...... sewerman __________________ "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny!" Thomas Jefferson "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety!" Benjamin franklin The Armed Citizen PREVENTS tyranny!

January 27, 2010, 09:54 PM	#2
simonkenton Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2008 Posts: 891	Very good looking customized pistol!

January 27, 2010, 11:32 PM	#3
Erich Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 2,543	I really like it!

January 28, 2010, 08:55 PM	#6
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	Unfortunatly, hind sight is always 20/20 & I never taken any during the process pictures. Sorry.

January 28, 2010, 09:37 PM	#7
msnden Member Join Date: December 15, 2009 Posts: 57	A work of Art!!!!!! beautiful, I raise a glass to you, Msn

January 30, 2010, 08:57 AM	#8
toolslinger Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2009 Posts: 102	Yow! Just extremely nifty. Is this the one with the jointed cylinder pin? Love the finish.

January 30, 2010, 02:50 PM	#10
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	Raider2000 or others - I haven't handled one of these shorter barreled Remies - Great looking job Raider! Nice looking pistol. I have a question on the cylinder pin - with this length barrel, are you not able to pull the cylinder pin far enough forward to take the cylinder out? Why is it necessary - or why do you makee the alterations to the cylinder pin? I've heard of others altering the cylinder pin on theirs but I'm curious as to why it's done? Many thanks!

January 30, 2010, 03:11 PM	#11
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,465	Great looking gun. Very nice indeed.

January 31, 2010, 05:58 AM	#13
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	Seeing as how this is the black powder forum, I was hoping to see an actual cannon . Looks great, nice work.

January 31, 2010, 08:38 PM	#14
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	Raider - thanks for the explanation - that all makes sense! I was wondering if the cylinder pin would hit the lug and not allow you to remove the cylinder but now I understand why you did what you did - which by the way, you did a terrific job on! I love the way your pistol looks - gives me incentive to get rid of some of the blue on mine! Many thanks! bedbug

February 25, 2010, 01:32 PM	#18
greco Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2005 Posts: 125	Man, thats a fine looking gun you got there... good job.