September 5, 2012, 01:16 PM | #1 |
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Ammo ?
I don't know if I'm in the right area (new guy).
I recently came across some old ammo in a bandolier.Was wondering if anyone knew what I have. Thanks.. |
September 5, 2012, 01:45 PM | #2 |
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Do you have any way of measuring the diameter of the bullet itself? Caliper or something?
Looks like a 45-70 to me but without dimensions, kinda tough to tell for sure on a computer screen
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September 5, 2012, 01:58 PM | #3 |
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Looks like 30/40 Krag
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NOT a 45-70 which has a straight case !
I would say also a 30-40 Krag.
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Agree .30-40 ID head stamp indicated made by Remington Arms in 1917.
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Thanks for all your help..greatly appreciated.
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Hey, I found this thread a while back http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407966
In the bottom it states: Quote:
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RA 17 should be Rock Island Arsenal, 1917 mfg. .30-40 Krag (.30 US, .30 US Govt, .30 USA). Don't know about the "R" stamp on the primer.
US service rifle cartridge from 1892 to 1903, replaced by the .30-03 Springfield, which was replaced in 1906 with the .30-06. Apparently military arsenals produced some Krag ammo at least through WW I, if I am right and it is Rock Island. I've seen and shot old Remington ammo, marked .30 USA (commercial ammo), and with that headstamp, its not Remington commerical ammo.
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W.R.A. CO. 5 17 Image?
SouthernMarine: I was wondering if this was the W.R.A. CO. 5 17 and what it might be worth.
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Welcome to TFL.
This is an almost 3 year old thread but there might be some folk that can answer your question here. If not, feel free to start a new thread. |
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Well WRA is Winchester Repeating Arms company. Can't tell about the bjullet, possibly a wood training round?
I believe the RA 17 round was Remington Arms but not positive on that point. Both rounds .30 USA aka 30/40 Krag. Paul B.
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It is 1000% .30-40 Krag, and 1,000,000% Remington Arms.
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"RA 17 should be Rock Island Arsenal..."
Uhm.... NO. First off, Rock Island never loaded small arms ammunition. I believe they had a shell filling works, but Rock Island was a materials arsenal during World War I -- leather goods, equipment, firearms, etc. Second, as others have noted, that's a .30-40 Krag cartridge, but loaded by Remington Arms at their Bridgeport, Conn., plant in 1917. The R on the primer means Remington, which means that it's a commercial primer, which means that this particular cartridge was likely among the first lots loaded in 1917 after the Government let the contract for .30-40 Krag ammo. It's likely that all of Remington's military contract primers were going into .30-06 production, so they used primers from the commercial side of the house until they could catch up.
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Oh good grief, this is an old thread with new questions...
"SouthernMarine: I was wondering if this was the W.R.A. CO. 5 17 and what it might be worth." Yes. That's one of the training rounds. Worth maybe a few dollars at best. I've seen lots of them over the past few years (now that I'm looking, I'm finding them everywhere. )
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