Primer Question

Splat!! · April 10, 2007, 09:19 PM

Due the my available time frame that I have to load and other things going on in life I have changed my routine ..........

I have started sizing and priming my cases first ......then storing them until I decide what bullet / load to use.........
A couple of people have told me they have had issues with primers not firing when installed and then stored, I fail to see the reasoning behind that .....

Anyone else had exp with this??.................Thanks

I use CCI and Winchester primers .Rifle, and pistol

sasquatch · April 10, 2007, 10:18 PM

I use CCI primers exclusively, both pistol and rifle, and do the same thing. I have had primed brass stored for around a year before loading them and have not experienced a failure as yet.

scottys1 · April 10, 2007, 10:34 PM

I haven't had any issues at all with doing the same thing.

When loading on my progressive (Dillon 550) which I use for higher volume pistol cartridges, the brass gets tumbled, inspected, and loaded.

For lower volume loading especially rifle cartridges, I'll size, trim, and otherwise prep the cases in one or more sittings on the single stage press after which they get primed. I'll do a batch of cases and store any that don't get immediately loaded in covered tupperware containers. I'll label the container and put the sleeve from the primers in with the brass so I know what they are. I've stored some at times for months or even over a year with no problems.

It comes in handy having a batch of identically prepped cases already done when working up loads using different bullets or powder charges when range time can be sporadic.

WCW · April 10, 2007, 10:37 PM

I also keep many cases prepped for reloading in the very same fashion, and I have never had any ignition problems whatsoever. I should also add I use a variety of primers and have never had any problems with any particular brand with cases stored this way.

**Unclenick** · April 10, 2007, 11:48 PM

A number of us buy bulk brass that is already primed to save time for the first loading. If priming in advance did damage inherently, these cases would not be offered for sale.

If you prime with too much force and crack the priming mix under the anvil of the primer, it is conceivable you have rendered the mix more moisture sensitive than usual. Prime carefully and store the stuff in a couple of layers of baggies with a desiccant.

Nick

Splat!! · April 11, 2007, 04:18 AM

Thanks ..........I myself have had no problem. Just a couple ppl tell me they tried that method and had a few primer failures to which they blamed on priming the case beforehand..............Due to the fact that was the only variable they changed prior to the failures.........

williamd · April 11, 2007, 06:24 PM

No problem. Store dry. Heck, you can buy primed cases and who knows how long they have been stored??!!

swmike · April 11, 2007, 07:22 PM

I can't see much difference between storing a primer in the package it came in or in the primer pocket of an empty case. Just keep dry and cool.

I just loaded and shot some cases that were primed in 1990. Not a single misfire.

**Mike Irwin** · April 12, 2007, 12:01 AM

I've had some cases prepped before for as long as 5 years before I get around to loading and shooting them.

Never had a problem with failures to fire.

gary2905 · April 12, 2007, 05:22 AM

Let me chime in with the rest.
Have done this for years and like Mike Irwin, never have had a problem.
How does the primer know where it is stored? Slightly rhetorical question from a smart a--.

Splat!! · April 12, 2007, 06:35 AM

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How does the primer know where it is stored? Slightly rhetorical question from a smart a--.

That was kinda my response when they told me that , but I reserved much comment until I reinspected the packages that the primers were in . I was pretty sure they were not sealed from moisture ........Both of them have more years reloading then I ..........I just recently got back into reloading. I used to reload alot of Shotgun when I grouse hunted 15 years ago....I am not new at it ..............Matter of fact I learned the hard way that fast burn powder and heavy loads don't mix..............

( In my quest for the ultimate grouse load)

Thanks everyone.................

**Mike Irwin** · April 12, 2007, 10:37 AM

My guess is that it's a case of bad storage causing the problems.

cheygriz · April 12, 2007, 02:12 PM

I've stored primed cases for years. I use Remington primers exclusively. Never had a problem.

mattgreennra · April 23, 2007, 01:34 AM

As long as you don't rub super greasy hands all over the primers or store them in jungle humidity you shouldn't have a problem.

45auto45 · April 24, 2007, 02:40 AM

Yep, very recently loaded a few hundred rounds of 45's that I primed backed in 1988, worked just fine!!

April 10, 2007, 09:19 PM	#1
Splat!! Member Join Date: February 13, 2007 Posts: 69	Primer Question Due the my available time frame that I have to load and other things going on in life I have changed my routine .......... I have started sizing and priming my cases first ......then storing them until I decide what bullet / load to use......... A couple of people have told me they have had issues with primers not firing when installed and then stored, I fail to see the reasoning behind that ..... Anyone else had exp with this??.................Thanks I use CCI and Winchester primers .Rifle, and pistol

April 10, 2007, 10:18 PM	#2
sasquatch Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2005 Location: Western WA Posts: 1,347	I use CCI primers exclusively, both pistol and rifle, and do the same thing. I have had primed brass stored for around a year before loading them and have not experienced a failure as yet. __________________ Just my 2¢.

April 10, 2007, 11:48 PM	#5
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,061	A number of us buy bulk brass that is already primed to save time for the first loading. If priming in advance did damage inherently, these cases would not be offered for sale. If you prime with too much force and crack the priming mix under the anvil of the primer, it is conceivable you have rendered the mix more moisture sensitive than usual. Prime carefully and store the stuff in a couple of layers of baggies with a desiccant. Nick __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

April 11, 2007, 06:24 PM	#7
williamd Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 801	No problem. Store dry. Heck, you can buy primed cases and who knows how long they have been stored??!! __________________ "Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns!" Unfortunately, we may be moving in that direction. NRA Benefactor, Conservative!, VN '64-'65. Never sell a gun or a car ... and retire rich!

April 11, 2007, 07:22 PM	#8
swmike Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2005 Location: Marysville, WA Posts: 670	I can't see much difference between storing a primer in the package it came in or in the primer pocket of an empty case. Just keep dry and cool. I just loaded and shot some cases that were primed in 1990. Not a single misfire. __________________ My definition of Gun Control--- A steady grip and hitting your target. "In God we trust, all others are suspects." "If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying, either I won't need any more, or more won't be of any help". ____________________________________________

April 10, 2007, 10:34 PM	#3
scottys1 Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2004 Posts: 316	I haven't had any issues at all with doing the same thing. When loading on my progressive (Dillon 550) which I use for higher volume pistol cartridges, the brass gets tumbled, inspected, and loaded. For lower volume loading especially rifle cartridges, I'll size, trim, and otherwise prep the cases in one or more sittings on the single stage press after which they get primed. I'll do a batch of cases and store any that don't get immediately loaded in covered tupperware containers. I'll label the container and put the sleeve from the primers in with the brass so I know what they are. I've stored some at times for months or even over a year with no problems. It comes in handy having a batch of identically prepped cases already done when working up loads using different bullets or powder charges when range time can be sporadic.

April 10, 2007, 10:37 PM	#4
WCW Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2007 Posts: 132	I also keep many cases prepped for reloading in the very same fashion, and I have never had any ignition problems whatsoever. I should also add I use a variety of primers and have never had any problems with any particular brand with cases stored this way.

April 11, 2007, 04:18 AM	#6
Splat!! Member Join Date: February 13, 2007 Posts: 69	Thanks ..........I myself have had no problem. Just a couple ppl tell me they tried that method and had a few primer failures to which they blamed on priming the case beforehand..............Due to the fact that was the only variable they changed prior to the failures.........

April 12, 2007, 12:01 AM	#9
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,388	I've had some cases prepped before for as long as 5 years before I get around to loading and shooting them. Never had a problem with failures to fire. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

April 12, 2007, 05:22 AM	#10
gary2905 Member Join Date: December 20, 2005 Location: Rural-not for long- Virginia Posts: 60	Let me chime in with the rest. Have done this for years and like Mike Irwin, never have had a problem. How does the primer know where it is stored? Slightly rhetorical question from a smart a--.

April 12, 2007, 10:37 AM	#12
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,388	My guess is that it's a case of bad storage causing the problems. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

April 12, 2007, 02:12 PM	#13
cheygriz Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2002 Location: high up in the rockies Posts: 2,289	I've stored primed cases for years. I use Remington primers exclusively. Never had a problem. __________________ If you think a mighty military force is expensive, wait 'til you see what a weak one costs.

April 23, 2007, 01:34 AM	#14
mattgreennra Member Join Date: April 15, 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 93	As long as you don't rub super greasy hands all over the primers or store them in jungle humidity you shouldn't have a problem.

April 24, 2007, 02:40 AM	#15
45auto45 Member Join Date: April 1, 2007 Location: Girly Man!!!! Posts: 38	Yep, very recently loaded a few hundred rounds of 45's that I primed backed in 1988, worked just fine!! __________________ The road to hell is paved with Democraps!