PC'd a few today. - Page 2

Beagle333 · February 11, 2014, 08:07 PM

Same ol' way.... I'm still on the box-a-month program,... but I been thinking about renegotiating my contract!

loademwell · February 12, 2014, 11:55 AM

Hay Beagle? What mold are those from? They look beautiful. I may have to start an other thread on HP's.... Your input would be great!

David Bachelder · February 12, 2014, 12:34 PM

I'm guessing Beagle uses non stick aluminum foil?

I didn't know there was such a thing. My bullets stuck to the foil and now I have bullets with shiny butts.

Grizz12 · February 12, 2014, 12:38 PM

do your barrels get coated after shooting them?

Beagle333 · February 12, 2014, 12:41 PM

What mold are which ones from?

I do use Reynolds non-stick foil.

There is nothing in the barrel afterward. It's as slick as a new one.

loademwell · February 12, 2014, 01:14 PM

Your very first pic. The nice red HP's. What are they? What mold do you use?

Beagle333 · February 12, 2014, 02:36 PM

The candy colored HPs are the MiHec .308 Hunting Boolit mold (that's the name of it)

Beagle333 · February 13, 2014, 01:28 PM

Snow day today! No work and no school.

NOE 360160 WFN, in HF red and Lagoon green.
(and a little of whatever color was used last in the powder jar)

I put the checks on em because I'm loading them for Mom to shoot in her Marlin.

loademwell · February 13, 2014, 04:48 PM

What on earth is your gas checks? They old pop cans?
They look Beautiful.. Keep them pix coming if you don't mind. Just makes me more and more excited to do this this summer.

Beagle333 · February 13, 2014, 04:54 PM

Yep. 'Just pop cans.

Beagle333 · February 13, 2014, 06:25 PM

Also today, made a couple of trays of Accurate 359-162V

And some 358665 for a friend's new Rossi. (yes, they were sprayed with two different batches of powder)

And both of these were some older bullets that I had stored after tumbling in LLA. So I tumbled em in a coffee can with some gasoline, air dried, and then a quick swirl with some lacquer thinner to get the gas smell off 'em, then air dried and sprayed.

David Bachelder · February 13, 2014, 06:51 PM

Very nice looking work.

loademwell · February 13, 2014, 10:24 PM

You know, I have an old beat up gun that I have been attempting to restore. But after getting a lot of the rust off, I found there this some real bad pitting. I wonder what it would look like if I powder coated it in strait up black?

Would it be worth a try? Any ideas?

Beagle333 · February 13, 2014, 10:45 PM

I haven't heard of anybody doing it. Maybe ask about Parkerizing in the smithy section?

mikld · February 14, 2014, 07:49 PM

What do the bases on the non-checked bullets look like? I've been playing with dry tumbling in powder and baking but the bases don't get covered that way...

Beagle333 · February 14, 2014, 09:33 PM

I put mine up on little hex nuts that are under my foil, so it gets a little wrap-around effect from the powder. But that is just to make sure the sides are coated all the way down. It doesn't need coated on the bottom. It is a 1/1000" thin layer of polyester that provides friction protection to the sides. It does nothing to fire protect the base, even if it were coated down there.

Conventionally lubed bullets are nekkid from the bottom of the lube groove all the way down and including the base and shoot great.

The lube does nothing to protect the base of those.

Grizz12 · February 14, 2014, 09:39 PM

are any of you guys selling these things?

Beagle333 · February 14, 2014, 09:48 PM

I don't know anybody selling PC'd bullets.

Gateway Bullets is selling Hi-Tek coated bullets though. It's a different coating than powdercoat, but it is proving to be great for pistol bullets. (It's a tumble and bake procedure). I'm going to test some when they get the Zombie Green imported. (It's new, so they only have 3 or 4 colors available, at last I checked.)

Mike / Tx · February 15, 2014, 07:44 AM

Quote:

are any of you guys selling these things?

This can get you into some muddy water fairly quick once the word gets out unless you have a FFL. I know it makes about as much sense as opening an umbrella in the rain but non the less the regs are there.

On a side note however, I don't ever even see any of these being shot,

so they might as well "trade" them off on some new alloy or some of that fancy coating powder. You do know that once they get all that pretty stuff plastered all over a big ol batch of boolits they just set them up on a shelf and take pictures of them right.....

They do however take some REALLY great pictures. Some of us though are looking for some of those pretty little thangs all squished up and rolled back, so we can see how it all holds together other than being smacked with a hammer. Heck even a target full of holes shot at 25 - 50yds would be nice....just sayin

You know somethin like this maybe, with little bits and pieces of that orange or red goop hanging off the edges,

Inquiring minds want to know, don't ya know...

Grizz12 · February 15, 2014, 08:53 AM

Since when do you need a FFl to sell bullets or ammo???

David Bachelder · February 15, 2014, 10:17 AM

Grizz12

You do not need a FFL to sell bullets or ammo. You do need an FFL to sell bullets or ammo that you manufacture (big difference there). I was surprised to find this out and I had no idea it was true.

Ridiculous I know, but we are talking about our government ....... There is a thread somewhere on here that explains it. If I had to make a wild a** guess, I'd guess that most manufacturers of cast bullets are not in compliance. Further, I say that what they do and what they sell is none of my business. It's not my job to enforce federal law. If were in need of cast bullets I would not hesitate to order from any of them.

Grizz12 · February 15, 2014, 11:14 AM

Quote:

You do need an FFL to sell bullets or ammo that you manufacture

Do you have a link?

Beagle333 · February 15, 2014, 11:36 AM

Somebody start a new thread about the legality of cast bullet sales. Those will last forever and take this thread off down the rabbit hole.

mikld · February 15, 2014, 02:01 PM

Thanks Beagle, I was wondering if the bases would need coating. Just thinking about flame protection, and/or base integrity on exit from the muzzle...

Beagle333 · February 16, 2014, 07:38 PM

I cast and coated about 500 today. All in HF red. About half and half of:
358429

and 38-162-SWC (These will get gas checks)

All got one spray, one bake at 400 degrees for 20 mins, and I didn't knock a single one over when moving the tray!

I scored a pound of W296 at the LGS... I'm gonna light these babies up!

February 11, 2014, 08:07 PM	#26
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Same ol' way.... I'm still on the box-a-month program,... but I been thinking about renegotiating my contract! __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 12, 2014, 12:34 PM	#28
David Bachelder Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2011 Location: Trinity, Texas Posts: 636	I'm guessing Beagle uses non stick aluminum foil? I didn't know there was such a thing. My bullets stuck to the foil and now I have bullets with shiny butts. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, Texas I load, 9mm Luger, 38 and 40 S&W, 38 Special, 357Magnum, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 223, 300 AAC, 243 and 30-06

February 12, 2014, 12:41 PM	#30
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	What mold are which ones from? I do use Reynolds non-stick foil. There is nothing in the barrel afterward. It's as slick as a new one. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 12, 2014, 02:36 PM	#32
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	The candy colored HPs are the MiHec .308 Hunting Boolit mold (that's the name of it) __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 13, 2014, 01:28 PM	#33
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Snow day today! No work and no school. NOE 360160 WFN, in HF red and Lagoon green. (and a little of whatever color was used last in the powder jar) I put the checks on em because I'm loading them for Mom to shoot in her Marlin. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 12, 2014, 11:55 AM	#27
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	Hay Beagle? What mold are those from? They look beautiful. I may have to start an other thread on HP's.... Your input would be great!

February 12, 2014, 12:38 PM	#29
Grizz12 Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2012 Posts: 527	do your barrels get coated after shooting them?

February 12, 2014, 01:14 PM	#31
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	Your very first pic. The nice red HP's. What are they? What mold do you use?

February 13, 2014, 04:48 PM	#34
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	What on earth is your gas checks? They old pop cans? They look Beautiful.. Keep them pix coming if you don't mind. Just makes me more and more excited to do this this summer.

February 13, 2014, 04:54 PM	#35
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Yep. 'Just pop cans. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 13, 2014, 06:25 PM	#36
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Also today, made a couple of trays of Accurate 359-162V And some 358665 for a friend's new Rossi. (yes, they were sprayed with two different batches of powder) And both of these were some older bullets that I had stored after tumbling in LLA. So I tumbled em in a coffee can with some gasoline, air dried, and then a quick swirl with some lacquer thinner to get the gas smell off 'em, then air dried and sprayed. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile. Last edited by Beagle333; February 13, 2014 at 07:27 PM.

February 13, 2014, 06:51 PM	#37
David Bachelder Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2011 Location: Trinity, Texas Posts: 636	Very nice looking work. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, Texas I load, 9mm Luger, 38 and 40 S&W, 38 Special, 357Magnum, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 223, 300 AAC, 243 and 30-06

February 13, 2014, 10:24 PM	#38
loademwell Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2012 Posts: 164	You know, I have an old beat up gun that I have been attempting to restore. But after getting a lot of the rust off, I found there this some real bad pitting. I wonder what it would look like if I powder coated it in strait up black? Would it be worth a try? Any ideas?

February 13, 2014, 10:45 PM	#39
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	I haven't heard of anybody doing it. Maybe ask about Parkerizing in the smithy section? __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 14, 2014, 07:49 PM	#40
mikld Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2009 Location: Southern Oregon! Posts: 2,891	What do the bases on the non-checked bullets look like? I've been playing with dry tumbling in powder and baking but the bases don't get covered that way... __________________ My Anchor is holding fast! I've learned how to stand on my own two knees...

February 14, 2014, 09:33 PM	#41
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	I put mine up on little hex nuts that are under my foil, so it gets a little wrap-around effect from the powder. But that is just to make sure the sides are coated all the way down. It doesn't need coated on the bottom. It is a 1/1000" thin layer of polyester that provides friction protection to the sides. It does nothing to fire protect the base, even if it were coated down there. Conventionally lubed bullets are nekkid from the bottom of the lube groove all the way down and including the base and shoot great. The lube does nothing to protect the base of those. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 14, 2014, 09:39 PM	#42
Grizz12 Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2012 Posts: 527	are any of you guys selling these things?

February 14, 2014, 09:48 PM	#43
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	I don't know anybody selling PC'd bullets. Gateway Bullets is selling Hi-Tek coated bullets though. It's a different coating than powdercoat, but it is proving to be great for pistol bullets. (It's a tumble and bake procedure). I'm going to test some when they get the Zombie Green imported. (It's new, so they only have 3 or 4 colors available, at last I checked.) __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 15, 2014, 08:53 AM	#45
Grizz12 Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2012 Posts: 527	Since when do you need a FFl to sell bullets or ammo???

February 15, 2014, 10:17 AM	#46
David Bachelder Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2011 Location: Trinity, Texas Posts: 636	Grizz12 You do not need a FFL to sell bullets or ammo. You do need an FFL to sell bullets or ammo that you manufacture (big difference there). I was surprised to find this out and I had no idea it was true. Ridiculous I know, but we are talking about our government ....... There is a thread somewhere on here that explains it. If I had to make a wild a** guess, I'd guess that most manufacturers of cast bullets are not in compliance. Further, I say that what they do and what they sell is none of my business. It's not my job to enforce federal law. If were in need of cast bullets I would not hesitate to order from any of them. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, Texas I load, 9mm Luger, 38 and 40 S&W, 38 Special, 357Magnum, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 223, 300 AAC, 243 and 30-06

February 15, 2014, 11:36 AM	#48
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Somebody start a new thread about the legality of cast bullet sales. Those will last forever and take this thread off down the rabbit hole. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

February 15, 2014, 02:01 PM	#49
mikld Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2009 Location: Southern Oregon! Posts: 2,891	Thanks Beagle, I was wondering if the bases would need coating. Just thinking about flame protection, and/or base integrity on exit from the muzzle... __________________ My Anchor is holding fast! I've learned how to stand on my own two knees...

February 16, 2014, 07:38 PM	#50
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	I cast and coated about 500 today. All in HF red. About half and half of: 358429 and 38-162-SWC (These will get gas checks) All got one spray, one bake at 400 degrees for 20 mins, and I didn't knock a single one over when moving the tray! I scored a pound of W296 at the LGS... I'm gonna light these babies up! __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.