Cross Draw?

ZVP · April 1, 2014, 09:49 PM

I have noticed that in the Spagetti Westerns, Cross Drw Holsters seem to dominate even with C&B revolvers. I have looked around suppliers like Cabelas and some smaller dealers and they DO carry Cross Draw Holsters but for the most part they are made for large Centerfire revolvers.
I bought a holster on line for my 5 1/2" '58 Remmie and it's a little too big for the frame! It fits my Vaquero perfectly but the Remmie slips down inside too far. You almost can;t notice but getting your finger placed on the trigger in a draw takes effort.
There is NO way a Colt Type frame would fit the Holster!
Is there anyone except for a custom maker who builds a cross-draw for the Colt Type frame?
Thanks
ZVP

9mmfan · April 1, 2014, 10:36 PM

Here you go. That's for an 1860 Army.

Here's the link with all of the models if it's a different frame. Not all will be cross draw, but it's a start.

Hawg · April 2, 2014, 04:26 AM

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You almost can;t notice but getting your finger placed on the trigger in a draw takes effort.

In the old days it would have been very hard to do if not impossible.

Driftwood Johnson · April 2, 2014, 10:07 AM

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You almost can;t notice but getting your finger placed on the trigger in a draw takes effort.

Why are you placing your finger on the trigger before the gun is pointed down range?

Beagle333 · April 2, 2014, 01:10 PM

I had IdahoMike switch all my crossdraw holsters back to strong-side draw.
I just didn't like it.

Rigmarol · April 2, 2014, 04:24 PM

I use a Double Cross Draw rig with two Dragoons!!

I ain't fast but I'm having fun!

I prefer not to touch the trigger until I'm ready to fire myself. Cuts way down on buying new boots...

ZVP · April 2, 2014, 06:53 PM

I meant moving the finger towards the triggerguard, it came out wrong, OK?
Yea All my triggers are touchy and I NEED all the toes I have!
Sorry for the mus-type!
ZVP
I'll keep looking for crossdraws, rhanks!

Magnum Wheel Man · April 3, 2014, 06:19 AM

The local CASS club really doesn't like the cross draw rigs. as it's more challenging for the shooter to draw & keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, with other stages on the sides... ( stages are all in rows with railroad ties dividing them )

I imagine it's fun though

bedbugbilly · April 3, 2014, 07:42 AM

When you stop to think about it - back in the day of our ancestors - a cross draw holster would make a lot of sense if you spent a lot of time on horseback. Rather than reaching to your strong side to draw, which would repair a pretty much straight up pull due to your legs being down while seated in the saddle - a cross draw would allow the pistol to be aged some towards your strong hand and a lot easier for your hand to find the butt and withdraw from the holster quickly.

We all conjure up the visions of "gun slingers" but for a working cowboy of the day, there were lots of "critters" that could cause injury to your "four legged charges" - snakes, coyotes, bob cats, mountain lions, etc. not to mention two legged critters. A person also has to remember that a quick shot could startle cattle and start a stampede causing a lot of work in rounding them up. If I was all alone on horseback, working cattle on open range with nobody around for miles that I knew could be there if I needed them - I would feel a lot more secure being able to pull my cross draw holster around so it rode in front of me where I could get it if necessary - maybe a "case sense of security" - but that's no different in some of the ways we "carry" today.

It's still pretty much the same way today - a lot of folks like cross draw holsters as they spend a lot of time in their vehicles for their jobs. Riding on a horse or riding in a car - a cross draw properly adjusted will put your weapon "where you need it" if a problem arises while in your car. I carry on my strong side (right) OTB but in a car, it's almost impossible to reach your weapon if you need to. If we are going to be in the car and in areas where a problem could happen (at intersections int he city where you are stopped and a car jacking could occur, etc.) - then I switch to a cross draw holster. Like louis Sullivan said - "form follows function".

If you looking for a holster - try going to the leather working section over on CAS - lot's of good makers over there who can pretty much make whatever you want.

maillemaker · April 3, 2014, 08:34 AM

I don't get the appeal of cross-draw. Maybe I'm fatter than your average cowboy but I can barely reach around to my opposite pocket for fishing a revolver out of a holster.

Steve

Trum4n1208 · April 3, 2014, 01:23 PM

I've always been partial to the cavalry twist draw. But thats just me.

Wild Bill Bucks · April 7, 2014, 09:53 AM

I made my own Belly Holster so I could keep my Super Red Hawk .44 magnums weight more centered while stalking or riding. Since I am right handed, it also makes for less movement in a stand to get it out of the holster for hunting. I am not a very big guy so the weight being on the side makes it a really long day in the woods if I use a side holster, and it bangs the saddle if riding a horse, or lately an ATV. Having it in the front keeps the weight in your lap while riding or walking.

Driftwood Johnson · April 7, 2014, 03:12 PM

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The local CASS club really doesn't like the cross draw rigs. as it's more challenging for the shooter to draw & keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, with other stages on the sides... ( stages are all in rows with railroad ties dividing them )

I imagine it's fun though

I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard that. Yes, it's a bit more challenging to avoid sweeping anybody, but it is not difficult.

I have been using a cross draw rig in CAS since day one, for over ten years now.

ZVP · April 7, 2014, 03:31 PM

I have one Cross Draw which fits a few of my revolvers and I like it!
WHen I ordered it, it was called a Wyoming Rig. I guess that means it's a pocket holster sitting atop a wide flat backing. The angle is supposed to be CAS legal (I forget the required degrees...).
A Cross Draw, as mentioned above, fits many situations and positions that you find yourself in while carrying. Very comfortable in the truck!
I guess I'm just a Holster Freak! I like all sorts of styles and shapes.
BTW, there is a GREAT book on holsters called "Packing Iron" . A high dollar hardcover that shows literally hundreds of Holsters for all types of revolvers1 It's a wonderful read and actually a necessity for the Western Historian! Priced about $45 internet.
ZVP

Flatbush Harry · April 7, 2014, 09:15 PM

Having spent a good bit of time on horseback in my youth (also a slimmer time), cross-draw, especially with a long-barreled C&B revolver is the way to go. My rig is a cross draw for my 1860 Army or my 1875 Rem with a sheathed 10" blade Bowie (Silver Stag "Big" Bowie" or Cold Steel Laredo Bowie) behind it on my belt.

FH

April 1, 2014, 09:49 PM	#1
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	Cross Draw? I have noticed that in the Spagetti Westerns, Cross Drw Holsters seem to dominate even with C&B revolvers. I have looked around suppliers like Cabelas and some smaller dealers and they DO carry Cross Draw Holsters but for the most part they are made for large Centerfire revolvers. I bought a holster on line for my 5 1/2" '58 Remmie and it's a little too big for the frame! It fits my Vaquero perfectly but the Remmie slips down inside too far. You almost can;t notice but getting your finger placed on the trigger in a draw takes effort. There is NO way a Colt Type frame would fit the Holster! Is there anyone except for a custom maker who builds a cross-draw for the Colt Type frame? Thanks ZVP

April 2, 2014, 01:10 PM	#5
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	I had IdahoMike switch all my crossdraw holsters back to strong-side draw. I just didn't like it. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

April 3, 2014, 06:19 AM	#8
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	The local CASS club really doesn't like the cross draw rigs. as it's more challenging for the shooter to draw & keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, with other stages on the sides... ( stages are all in rows with railroad ties dividing them ) I imagine it's fun though __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

April 3, 2014, 07:42 AM	#9
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	When you stop to think about it - back in the day of our ancestors - a cross draw holster would make a lot of sense if you spent a lot of time on horseback. Rather than reaching to your strong side to draw, which would repair a pretty much straight up pull due to your legs being down while seated in the saddle - a cross draw would allow the pistol to be aged some towards your strong hand and a lot easier for your hand to find the butt and withdraw from the holster quickly. We all conjure up the visions of "gun slingers" but for a working cowboy of the day, there were lots of "critters" that could cause injury to your "four legged charges" - snakes, coyotes, bob cats, mountain lions, etc. not to mention two legged critters. A person also has to remember that a quick shot could startle cattle and start a stampede causing a lot of work in rounding them up. If I was all alone on horseback, working cattle on open range with nobody around for miles that I knew could be there if I needed them - I would feel a lot more secure being able to pull my cross draw holster around so it rode in front of me where I could get it if necessary - maybe a "case sense of security" - but that's no different in some of the ways we "carry" today. It's still pretty much the same way today - a lot of folks like cross draw holsters as they spend a lot of time in their vehicles for their jobs. Riding on a horse or riding in a car - a cross draw properly adjusted will put your weapon "where you need it" if a problem arises while in your car. I carry on my strong side (right) OTB but in a car, it's almost impossible to reach your weapon if you need to. If we are going to be in the car and in areas where a problem could happen (at intersections int he city where you are stopped and a car jacking could occur, etc.) - then I switch to a cross draw holster. Like louis Sullivan said - "form follows function". If you looking for a holster - try going to the leather working section over on CAS - lot's of good makers over there who can pretty much make whatever you want. __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63 Last edited by bedbugbilly; April 3, 2014 at 07:48 AM.

April 1, 2014, 10:36 PM	#2
9mmfan Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2012 Location: Weatherford, TX Posts: 301	Here you go. That's for an 1860 Army. Here's the link with all of the models if it's a different frame. Not all will be cross draw, but it's a start.

April 2, 2014, 04:24 PM	#6
Rigmarol Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 344	I use a Double Cross Draw rig with two Dragoons!! I ain't fast but I'm having fun! I prefer not to touch the trigger until I'm ready to fire myself. Cuts way down on buying new boots...

April 2, 2014, 06:53 PM	#7
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	I meant moving the finger towards the triggerguard, it came out wrong, OK? Yea All my triggers are touchy and I NEED all the toes I have! Sorry for the mus-type! ZVP I'll keep looking for crossdraws, rhanks!

April 3, 2014, 08:34 AM	#10
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	I don't get the appeal of cross-draw. Maybe I'm fatter than your average cowboy but I can barely reach around to my opposite pocket for fishing a revolver out of a holster. Steve

April 3, 2014, 01:23 PM	#11
Trum4n1208 Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2013 Posts: 173	I've always been partial to the cavalry twist draw. But thats just me.

April 7, 2014, 09:53 AM	#12
Wild Bill Bucks Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2005 Location: Southeastern Oklahoma, Next door to Sasquatch Posts: 1,266	I made my own Belly Holster so I could keep my Super Red Hawk .44 magnums weight more centered while stalking or riding. Since I am right handed, it also makes for less movement in a stand to get it out of the holster for hunting. I am not a very big guy so the weight being on the side makes it a really long day in the woods if I use a side holster, and it bangs the saddle if riding a horse, or lately an ATV. Having it in the front keeps the weight in your lap while riding or walking.

April 7, 2014, 03:31 PM	#14
ZVP Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1,102	I have one Cross Draw which fits a few of my revolvers and I like it! WHen I ordered it, it was called a Wyoming Rig. I guess that means it's a pocket holster sitting atop a wide flat backing. The angle is supposed to be CAS legal (I forget the required degrees...). A Cross Draw, as mentioned above, fits many situations and positions that you find yourself in while carrying. Very comfortable in the truck! I guess I'm just a Holster Freak! I like all sorts of styles and shapes. BTW, there is a GREAT book on holsters called "Packing Iron" . A high dollar hardcover that shows literally hundreds of Holsters for all types of revolvers1 It's a wonderful read and actually a necessity for the Western Historian! Priced about $45 internet. ZVP

April 7, 2014, 09:15 PM	#15
Flatbush Harry Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2008 Posts: 417	Having spent a good bit of time on horseback in my youth (also a slimmer time), cross-draw, especially with a long-barreled C&B revolver is the way to go. My rig is a cross draw for my 1860 Army or my 1875 Rem with a sheathed 10" blade Bowie (Silver Stag "Big" Bowie" or Cold Steel Laredo Bowie) behind it on my belt. FH