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April 14, 2009, 10:28 AM | #26 |
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Without getting into the validity of this militia, it's an interesting quandry when the gov't simultaneously refuses to provide services in an area and refuses to allow the people to perform the service for themselves.
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Is owning a "Desert Eagle pistol" supposed to be a one-phrase commentary on the mans character or mental stability or something? How is that even relevant.
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April 14, 2009, 10:34 AM | #28 | |
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As for what people can do, people can facilitate the remaining law enforcement by being vigilant and reporting crimes to the police. Of course that would require more than a dozen or so extreme "militia" forming nutjobs to actually give a flying crap what happens in their community... I understand these folks are frustrated, but this really isn't the way. I also can't get over the audacity of attempting to bill the city for their "services"... |
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It's a way for the media to invoke a subtle connotation. Basically, to the average reader it's a euphemism for "power-crazed nutjob". To me, it just means the guy has really poor taste. |
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April 14, 2009, 10:43 AM | #30 |
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Ag assault, Mugging, purse snatching after a slap to the face are but a few in florida considered violent felonies, as are home invasion and car jacking...
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Now I agree that these guys are approaching this the wrong way, but I understand their frustration. BTW: I'll bet the city maintains lots of useless services while cutting law enforcement... the thing they need most.
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Many of us have neighborhood watch programs that are simply not armed. Legally carrying a gun does not intrinsically change what you are otherwise doing to be illegal. Being an organized group of citizens does not limit your rights as citizens, at least as far as I know. If I want to go out in my car and patrol my neighborhood armed I can do it. If 3 others ple in my tiny civic and go with me it isn't illegal as long as we all have CCWs. I think most would agree this is how the law SHOULD read everywhere and I commend anyone OPENLY challenging ANY law. It is the ones trying to get around the law on the sly that bother me. There are a lot of people on here making assumptions. I don't see anywhere in the article where the "militia" members Where does it say the militia is limited to white people? How do you know there aren't already non-white members? Quote:
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If these guys are going to break any laws of course they shouldn't be there. Then again they may be just trying to make a point and getting publicity because they think the city should make cuts some where else due to the crime level in their city. It is far more effective than just complaining to the deaf ears of city government who will do what they want even if you vote against it.
Why are they out of money? Stupidity? As long as people spending our money are not held accountable this constant waste will continue.
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I don't live there either. But I do know what my friend in Lodi tells me, and it really makes me fear for his well being. |
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If I lived there and knew from experience everyone who ran the city was a crook, I might feel differently. Until I've seen evidence otherwise, however, I will assume they're more or less on the up and up. |
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I thinks its a great idea. They should be allowed to do anything (with in the confines of the law) that they feel necessary to protect their neighborhood. I highly doubt that these men are going to go out of their way to try and prevent crime. More than likely they will patrol the streets with a cell phone in hand and report crime. Personally, I would love to have neighbors that cared enough about my neighborhood that they were willing to patrol the streets making sure me or my property wasnt being victimized.
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BTW, I looked at their budget and IMO, there is spending that's inappropriate, given the circumstances.
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The article in the OP doesn't give me much hope that this is or will be the case, though. And talking about billing the city? Probably the most asinine thing I've read all week. |
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Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws
Here is a listing of the statutory sources for each state law.
States with Both Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws (7) -Florida. FLA. STAT. ANN. ch. 870.06, 790.29. -Georgia. GA. CODE ANN. ss 38-2-277, 16-11-150 to -152. -Idaho. IDAHO CODE ss 46-802, 18-8101 to -8105. -Illinois. ILL. REV. STAT. ch. 1805, para. 94-95. -New York. N.Y. MIL. LAW s 240. -North Carolina. N.C. GEN. STAT. ss 127A-151, 14-288.20. -Rhode Island. R.I. GEN. LAWS ss 30-12-7, 11-55-1 to -3. States with Anti-Militia Laws Only (17) -Alabama. ALA. CODE s 31-2-125. -Arizona. ARIZ. REV. STAT. ANN. s 26-123. -Iowa. IOWA CODE s 29A.31. -Kansas. KAN. STAT. ANN. s 48-203. -Kentucky. KY. REV. STAT. ANN. s 38.440. -Maine. ME. REV. STAT. ANN. tit. 37-B, s 342.2. -Maryland. MD. CODE ANN. art. 65, s 35. -Massachusetts. MASS. GEN. L. ch. 33, s 129-132. -Minnesota. MINN. STAT. s 624.61. -Mississippi. MISS. CODE ANN. $ 33-1-31. -Nevada. NEV. REV. STAT. s 203-080. -New Hampshire. N.H. REV. STAT. ANN. s 111:15. -North Dakota. N.D. CENT. CODE s 37-01-21. -Texas. TEX. GOV'T CODE ANN. s 431.010. -Washington. WASH. REV. CODE s 38.40.120. -West Virginia. W. VA. CODE s 15-1F-7. -Wyoming. WYO. STAT. s 19-1-106. States with Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws Only (17) -Arkansas. ARK. CODE s 5-71-301 to -303. -California. CAL. PENAL CODE s 11460. -Colorado. COLO. REV. STAT. s 18-9-120. -Connecticut. CONN. GEN. STAT. s 53-206b. -Louisiana. LA. REV. STAT. ANN. s 117.1. -Michigan. MICH. COMP. LAWS s 750.528a. -Missouri. MO. REV. STAT. s 574.070. -Montana. MONT. CODE ANN. s 45-8-109. -Nebraska. NEB. REV. STAT. s 28-1480 to -1482. -New Jersey. N.J. REV. STAT. s 2C:39-14. -New Mexico. N.M. STAT. ANN. s 30-20A-1 to -4. -Oklahoma. OKLA. STAT. ANN. tit. 21, s 1321.10. -Oregon. OR. REV. STAT. s 166.660. -Pennsylvania. 18 PA. CONS. STAT. s 5515. -South Carolina. S.C. CODE ANN. s 16-8-10 to -30. -Tennessee. TENN. CODE ANN. s 39-17-314. -Virginia. VA. CODE ANN. s 18.2-433.1 to -433.3. orchidhunter |
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