Wow, Ruger blew up!

laytonj1 · October 31, 2009, 12:25 AM

Since kaboom threads are popular I thought I'd add a few to the mix to keep things equal. Anybody got any Colt Kabooms?

Jim

riggins_83 · October 31, 2009, 12:27 AM

What load were you using?

laytonj1 · October 31, 2009, 12:38 AM

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What load were you using?

Not my guns. If I feel the need for more power I just use a bigger gun.

Jim

Jim March · October 31, 2009, 12:53 AM

Something interesting here: you notice how these things aren't spitting metal back at the shooter?

From top to bottom: we know what happened with the bad batch of Redhawk barrels. The wrong lube was put on barrels on Friday, dried out by Monday, barrels got over-torqued.

The second is damned impressive. A bad round blew but NO pieces scattered. Very cool from a safety perspective.

In the third, we see a fairly typical Ruger blowup. The topstrap bends buts holds, cylinder cuts loose. Metal goes sideways, not straight back.

In the fourth it was worse but wow, it STILL won't throw metal backwards. Nice.

These pics are I presume in response to a blown-up S&W pic recently. Which lost it's entire topstrap which went God only knows where, possibly straight back. Not as cool.

You can blow anything up. Worst case, a Ruger is less likely to hurt you in doing so. These pictures aren't a condemnation of Ruger but rather a vindication of their metallurgy.

I trust my life to a Ruger daily, and nothing in these pics causes me to regret it.

Sport45 · October 31, 2009, 12:55 AM

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Anybody got any Colt Kabooms?

Like this one?

ActivShootr · October 31, 2009, 01:10 AM

Not to deter the thread from blowing things up, but, has anyone ever seen these types of failures from factory loaded ammo?

laytonj1 · October 31, 2009, 01:30 AM

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Not to deter the thread from blowing things up, but, has anyone ever seen these types of failures from factory loaded ammo?

The owner of the GP100 claims it was a Winchester factory round. Likely defective if it was.

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These pics are I presume in response to a blown-up S&W pic recently.

Yes, but the purpose of this thread is to point out that any gun if loaded too hot or with bad ammo can blow-up. Though I have never heard of a Freedom Arms model 83 letting go.

Jim

laytonj1 · October 31, 2009, 01:34 AM

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you notice how these things aren't spitting metal back at the shooter?

March,

LOL, you are a true Ruger affectionado. You see good even in the bad.

Jim

Jim March · October 31, 2009, 01:36 AM

Hey, sorry but I think it's a valid point: it's not spitting metal at the shooter.

That's a good thing.

laytonj1 · October 31, 2009, 01:51 AM

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it's not spitting metal at the shooter.

That's a good thing.

Except for the guy next to him...

Jim

Jim March · October 31, 2009, 03:28 AM

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Except for the guy next to him...

If it's a proper firing line, everybody is supposed to be behind everybody else's muzzle. Worst that can happen is hand damage. Better that than eye/face damage.

Besides, the S&W blowups are also spitting cylinder fragments to the sides.

**Tom Servo** · October 31, 2009, 07:28 AM

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Not to deter the thread from blowing things up, but, has anyone ever seen these types of failures from factory loaded ammo?

CorBon .44 Special ammunition.

GP100man · October 31, 2009, 08:25 AM

Well the Redhawk is not a kaboom , it`s a barrel failure .

Ruger changed lube on the barrel threads & lubed a batch & left em over the week end & monday installed em .

there was a big thread on Ruger Forum .com about it .

hhb · October 31, 2009, 08:35 AM

Factory ammo isn't immune from defects. Learned a valuable lesson before I retired from LE. Years ago, the Dept. got in several cases of new .38 Special ammo with the S&W brand. Don't know which company loaded it for them, doubt that Smith did. One of the rounds I was issued had a slight bulge where the case mouth joined the projectile. In a speed loader, it would have been impossible to load any of the rounds with the defective cartridge. I saved it to show the S&W rep, and the FBI PFI. The FBI PFI relieved me of the cartridge, and sent it to Quantico.

Japle · October 31, 2009, 08:35 AM

I saw a Super Blackhawk years ago that was blown up. The shooter had tried Elmer's standard load of a 250 gr SWC and 22 gr of 2400.
Except he grabbed the wrong can and loaded 22 gr of Bullseye!

The top strap was gone, the frame bent and the tops of 3 chambers were blown. He wanted the gun sent back to Ruger for repairs!

garryc · October 31, 2009, 08:50 AM

I have to wonder of all the pics of blown up gunbs I've seen, are some of them actually guns destructive tested on purpose and relabled as an accident.

Tom2 · October 31, 2009, 09:05 AM

Guy who said a Freedom Arms has not blown up, I bet some might have been bent or loosened by the loads in those other kabooms. Maybe the reason is that people that drop that much on a SA revolver are more knowledgable and careful about loads? Might be that no one has tried hard enough to blow one up yet. There are limits to what any gun can handle at some point and someone out there is just dying to find out what those limits are, apparently. No such thing as an indestructable gun. No magic metals.

SwampYankee · October 31, 2009, 09:43 AM

What does Ruger do when someone experiences a barrel failure? If you were to buy a used Redhawk, not overload it and the barrel snapped, will they replace the gun? They acknowledge that this was a problem on a limited number of firearms, are they still out in the wild and subject to this failure?

Microgunner · October 31, 2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim March

Hey, sorry but I think it's a valid point: it's not spitting metal at the shooter.

Except the rear sight on that Blackhawk. Looks like it may have been launched rearward. OUCH!

Don P · October 31, 2009, 09:55 AM

Other than the know barrel faiure I fell safe saying some people should not reload. Pictures are the proof

BlkHawk73 · October 31, 2009, 10:43 AM

Wonder how many of he reloading idiots claimed it wasn't their fault but the fault of the gun when they over-charged the case.

Microgunner · October 31, 2009, 11:00 AM

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Wonder how many of he reloading idiots claimed it wasn't their fault but the fault of the gun when they over-charged the case.

All of them. Just like the "damned gun just went off all by itself" when explaining accidental discharges.

**Mike Irwin** · October 31, 2009, 11:11 AM

I did have a gun go off all by itself once, a Savage Fox double barrel 12 gauge.

Something broke internally, and I closed the action, the left barrel fired.

Though, that's odd, let me try that again.

Made darned sure my hands were away from the trigger, reloaded, and BOOM.

Relatively easy fix, but it's a damned good lesson why, when loading a double, you should ALWAYS keep the muzzles pointed at the ground and bring the butt up to close it, not the barrels.

shortwave · October 31, 2009, 11:36 AM

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Wonder how many of he reloading idiots claimed it wasn`t their fault...

I wouldn`t go to the reloading site here on TFL and word that statement as such

. All reloaders aren`t idiots.

lee n. field · October 31, 2009, 11:42 AM

Interesting that the SP101's cylinder split into three parts.

Wonder when we'll see our first LCR KB.

October 31, 2009, 12:25 AM	#1
laytonj1 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2005 Posts: 4,443	Wow, Ruger blew up! Since kaboom threads are popular I thought I'd add a few to the mix to keep things equal. Anybody got any Colt Kabooms? Jim

October 31, 2009, 12:27 AM	#2
riggins_83 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 1,505	What load were you using? __________________ l've heard police work is dangerous. Yes, that's why l carry a big gun. Couldn't it go off accidentally? l used to have that problem. What did you do about it? l just think about baseball. -Leslie Nielsen

October 31, 2009, 12:53 AM	#4
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	Something interesting here: you notice how these things aren't spitting metal back at the shooter? From top to bottom: we know what happened with the bad batch of Redhawk barrels. The wrong lube was put on barrels on Friday, dried out by Monday, barrels got over-torqued. The second is damned impressive. A bad round blew but NO pieces scattered. Very cool from a safety perspective. In the third, we see a fairly typical Ruger blowup. The topstrap bends buts holds, cylinder cuts loose. Metal goes sideways, not straight back. In the fourth it was worse but wow, it STILL won't throw metal backwards. Nice. These pics are I presume in response to a blown-up S&W pic recently. Which lost it's entire topstrap which went God only knows where, possibly straight back. Not as cool. You can blow anything up. Worst case, a Ruger is less likely to hurt you in doing so. These pictures aren't a condemnation of Ruger but rather a vindication of their metallurgy. I trust my life to a Ruger daily, and nothing in these pics causes me to regret it. __________________ Jim March

October 31, 2009, 01:36 AM	#9
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	Hey, sorry but I think it's a valid point: it's not spitting metal at the shooter. That's a good thing. __________________ Jim March

October 31, 2009, 08:25 AM	#13
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	Redhawk Well the Redhawk is not a kaboom , it`s a barrel failure . Ruger changed lube on the barrel threads & lubed a batch & left em over the week end & monday installed em . there was a big thread on Ruger Forum .com about it . __________________ GP100man

October 31, 2009, 01:10 AM	#6
ActivShootr Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2007 Posts: 1,040	Not to deter the thread from blowing things up, but, has anyone ever seen these types of failures from factory loaded ammo?

October 31, 2009, 08:35 AM	#14
hhb Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2007 Location: Foothills of the Ozarks Posts: 316	Factory ammo Factory ammo isn't immune from defects. Learned a valuable lesson before I retired from LE. Years ago, the Dept. got in several cases of new .38 Special ammo with the S&W brand. Don't know which company loaded it for them, doubt that Smith did. One of the rounds I was issued had a slight bulge where the case mouth joined the projectile. In a speed loader, it would have been impossible to load any of the rounds with the defective cartridge. I saved it to show the S&W rep, and the FBI PFI. The FBI PFI relieved me of the cartridge, and sent it to Quantico.

October 31, 2009, 08:35 AM	#15
Japle Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: Viera, Florida Posts: 1,340	I saw a Super Blackhawk years ago that was blown up. The shooter had tried Elmer's standard load of a 250 gr SWC and 22 gr of 2400. Except he grabbed the wrong can and loaded 22 gr of Bullseye! The top strap was gone, the frame bent and the tops of 3 chambers were blown. He wanted the gun sent back to Ruger for repairs!

October 31, 2009, 08:50 AM	#16
garryc Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2005 Posts: 2,536	I have to wonder of all the pics of blown up gunbs I've seen, are some of them actually guns destructive tested on purpose and relabled as an accident.

October 31, 2009, 09:05 AM	#17
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,676	Guy who said a Freedom Arms has not blown up, I bet some might have been bent or loosened by the loads in those other kabooms. Maybe the reason is that people that drop that much on a SA revolver are more knowledgable and careful about loads? Might be that no one has tried hard enough to blow one up yet. There are limits to what any gun can handle at some point and someone out there is just dying to find out what those limits are, apparently. No such thing as an indestructable gun. No magic metals. __________________ Your gun is like your nose, it is just wrong for someone else to pick it for you!

October 31, 2009, 09:43 AM	#18
SwampYankee Registration in progress Join Date: November 1, 2008 Location: I can be found on a number of other forums. Posts: 1,333	What does Ruger do when someone experiences a barrel failure? If you were to buy a used Redhawk, not overload it and the barrel snapped, will they replace the gun? They acknowledge that this was a problem on a limited number of firearms, are they still out in the wild and subject to this failure?

October 31, 2009, 09:55 AM	#20
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	Other than the know barrel faiure I fell safe saying some people should not reload. Pictures are the proof __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

October 31, 2009, 10:43 AM	#21
BlkHawk73 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 1999 Location: Maine Posts: 756	Wonder how many of he reloading idiots claimed it wasn't their fault but the fault of the gun when they over-charged the case. __________________ Shoot safe, shoot often

October 31, 2009, 11:11 AM	#23
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	I did have a gun go off all by itself once, a Savage Fox double barrel 12 gauge. Something broke internally, and I closed the action, the left barrel fired. Though, that's odd, let me try that again. Made darned sure my hands were away from the trigger, reloaded, and BOOM. Relatively easy fix, but it's a damned good lesson why, when loading a double, you should ALWAYS keep the muzzles pointed at the ground and bring the butt up to close it, not the barrels. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 31, 2009, 11:42 AM	#25
lee n. field Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2002 Location: The same state as Mordor. Posts: 5,568	Interesting that the SP101's cylinder split into three parts. Wonder when we'll see our first LCR KB. __________________ "As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. "

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