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Old January 29, 2015, 07:47 PM   #1
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Remington 700 vs 770

Really how much better is a Remington model 700 ADL than a model 770?? Everyone says the 770 is terrible but is it really?? Is the 770 worth the price? Will it shoot everythime? How bad can it accually be!!!???
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Old January 29, 2015, 07:53 PM   #2
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Depends on what you want. Nice wood stock or poly. Shoot three hundred rounds+ a year or no more than that over 40 years?? This is what determines 710 vs 700. If you want a lot a ammo downrange with a nice stock then go for the 700. You want a pickup truck gun that won't shoot more than ten rounds a year then go for the 710, that's the market they are aimed at.
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Old January 29, 2015, 07:56 PM   #3
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THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!!!!!!!!!!
Model 700 is a RIFLE while that other thing is (unprintable).
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Old January 29, 2015, 08:01 PM   #4
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Ok thanks guys I was wondering save the money or is it not worth it
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Old January 29, 2015, 08:04 PM   #5
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Not worth it. 770 = throw away rifle. Anything goes wrong or breaks, you just throw it away...
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Old January 29, 2015, 08:14 PM   #6
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Apples and Onions! Absolutely no comparison. The 700 is a classic, even if it has had some issues as of late.
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Old January 29, 2015, 09:03 PM   #7
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It's already been said. A 700 action versus a cheap sloppy toy. If a bargin rifle is your wishes, the Ruger American is a good one, God Bless
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Old January 29, 2015, 09:10 PM   #8
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The 770 is a piece of junk. I do not dislike cheap rifles, but I do dislike junk. 783, TC Venture, Savage Axis, Savage Axis II, or Ruger American are all good economical rifles. The 770 is just junk.
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Old January 29, 2015, 10:45 PM   #9
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X2 on what Reynolds357 said..

Cheapest ive seen 770's for is about $240 .. 783's which are a way better rifle are $280 obo with free shipping at Buds Guns. Its a well spent $40 upgrade for a 783 over a 770/710.

The majority of my rifles are synthetic stocked 700's but I did buy a 783 last year and havent been dissapointed yet. Accuracy looks like it will be as good as my 700's.
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Old January 30, 2015, 04:24 AM   #10
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Personally I would rather have my 1955 721 then a 700 with the recalls.
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Old January 30, 2015, 07:02 AM   #11
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I got a 710 in partial trade several years ago not really knowing what it was... After owning it for awhile I began to notice things about it that I did not like one bit. Weird, sloppy action to it... ugly stock, and just didn't seem like alot went into building it... Sent it packing, applied it in trade toward a Smith 686 and haven't regretted that one bit. The only thing I miss about it was the cartridge it was chambered in, 300WM... Want to get another 300WM on the rack, this time a FW or Sporter...

I now own a synthetic stock 700 ADL, with the non-fancy, non-recalled trigger. It was my only deer rifle until my recent purchase of a Winchester Super Grade. In my opinion, the 700ADL is 100 times better than that 710 was...It has been amazingly accurate and reliable for me. Put quite a but of meat in the freezer with it. Great little workhorse.

If I was looking for an economy rifle, I would be looking seriously at a Savage.


Do they even make the ADL any more?? I may be mistaken, but I can't seem to find it on the Remmy website...
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Old January 30, 2015, 07:47 AM   #12
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Ride Red 350r, I am not exactly sure if they make them anymore but Cabela's website has them for $450 with a scope.
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Old January 30, 2015, 04:26 PM   #13
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Gotcha...

I am the third owner of the ADL I mentioned above. My brother gave it to me as a gift several years ago, and he traded something for it with a friend who bought it new.

I am told it was a Bass Pro combo. Still has the Redhead 3x9 on it, and it still works very well! I seldom have to make any adjustment from year to year, and if I do, its just 2 or 3 clicks.

And I am told the combo cost around $450 new as well... Bought around 2000-2002??

After my experience with it, I think $450 was a heck of a deal! It's not real pretty, but it functions great.... Only issue I have is that the plastic trigger guard has cracked around one of it's mount screw holes.
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Old January 30, 2015, 04:52 PM   #14
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I wouldn't own one simply because I like better guns. However, two of my friends have them and at 100yds they shoot under an inch and they both kill bucks with them every years. They don't shoot other than that and it's just fine with them. I guess it just depends on what you're trying to do with the gun. Kill deer? No problem. Have fun and enjoying shooting and load development? Probably not the right gun for the job.
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Old January 30, 2015, 05:05 PM   #15
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Cheap guns

The 770 is a throw away rifle, the barrel is pressed into the action rather than threaded, those 300 hundred dollar rifle are what they are. If you buy one and it won't group worth a darn don't complain!! I should add you usually get what you pay for, just how cheap a rifle are you willing to settle for is the question!?? I own Winchester model 70 bolt guns (3), A Winchester model 94AE lever big bore, Winchester 9422TD that is one of my favorites, (2) Ruger Hawkeye bolt guns. I normally think of a firearm (now) as a lifetime purchase, once I purchase if it doesn't meet or exceed my expectations I get rid of it quickly. I have a total of 11 long guns and am looking for #12 which will be my last, I have no idea what it will be but I'll know it when I see it!! I know some of this sounds ugly but I purchased some of the cheap rifles when I was young and couldn't afford what I really wanted then I couldn't wait to get rid of it. Take the time to select and if needed put off purchasing until you can afford the right rifle that may be a life long hunting companion!! William

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Old January 30, 2015, 05:51 PM   #16
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Yes ride red, $450 sounds like a heck of a deal for the Rem 700 and yes the one thing is I've heard is that plastic trigger guard it breaks easy.
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Old January 30, 2015, 09:12 PM   #17
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Everyone says the 770 is terrible but is it really??
Yes. Really.

Get the 700.
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Old January 31, 2015, 07:50 AM   #18
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As mentioned many times already, there is no comparison. 700= 770=pooh
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Old January 31, 2015, 08:33 AM   #19
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Personally I would rather have my 1955 721 then a 700 with the recalls.
The 721 is part of the most recent recall. As are all Remington bolt rifles except the 788 made between 1946 and 2012.

But the problems with the 700 series CAN be corrected. The 770/710 series of rifles are disposable rifles. But to be honest, for the guy who shoots a box of ammo per year they will probably last a lifetime. While not of the best quality, accuracy seems to be pretty decent.
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Old January 31, 2015, 08:57 AM   #20
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I saw that thread title and knew this was going to be good...lol
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Old January 31, 2015, 10:18 AM   #21
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JMR40: Has Remington recently changed what models are effected by the recall?? When this whole deal erupted a few weeks back, I looked on their web page and found that because my ADL has the serrated trigger and is not adjustable that mine is not under the recall... Also, from what I gather, the models recalled are of the type that the safety must be switched to the "fire" position to open the bolt and clear the chamber. On my 700, the action can be opened with the safety on..

Just looking for a little clarification.
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Old January 31, 2015, 10:36 AM   #22
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Hey guys,I'm going to get the Remington 700 ADL .308 and I was wondering if cheap $7 TuloAmmo for a box of 20 will hurt my Rem 700??

I've heard people say it can? Is this true? Or not?
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Old January 31, 2015, 11:05 AM   #23
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Just my opinion and others may or may not agree... The biggest thing I would steer clear of is ammo with steel cases. IDK if anyone makes steel cased .308 ammo or not for that matter.. But I know one can get AK rounds with it.

But cheap ammo is cheap for a reason... While your rifle may take a liking to it, don't expect terrific consistency. You get what you pay for.

Better yet, make your own ammo!

But as far as hurting your rifle, I would not have that worry so long as the cases are brass... Something about steel cases just doesn't sit right with me... That is just my personal opinion and may be totally unfounded.

And you are making the right decision getting the 700. The 710 I spoke of above is the predecessor to the 770 you are looking at. From what I gather, the differences between the old 710 and current 770 are mainly cosmetic. And being that I have experience with both the 710 and 700 (albeit a very entry level 700 ADL) I can tell you firsthand that ANY 700 is a hundred times better than ANY 710/770.

Beyond that, I much prefer a Winchester m70 to the 700. After I got my new SG in 338WM last November, my little ADL never went in the woods again the rest of the season.. Yes, I felt bad... And I'll still hunt with it. But daggum that SG is NICE!

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Old January 31, 2015, 12:27 PM   #24
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Has Remington recently changed what models are effected by the recall?? When this whole deal erupted a few weeks back, I looked on their web page and found that because my ADL has the serrated trigger and is not adjustable that mine is not under the recall...
It's a bit confusing because there have been several Remington trigger recalls. There was one years ago that prompted the switch to not locking the bolt.

Finally after years of raging controversy, Remington recalled ALL models with the Walker trigger, "specifically the Model 700, Seven, Sportsman 78, 673, 710, 715, 770, 600, 660, XP-100, 721, 722 and 725. "

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102236497#.

There was another about the new X-mark pro trigger that is unrelated to the others.
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Old January 31, 2015, 01:31 PM   #25
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Remington 700

Pictures speak more than 1000 words. Unfortunately I couldn't get my photo to download. What I wanted to show was the Rem 700 (with bipod), 270 win that I own. It's been in the family for quite awhile, I inherited from my Father when he passed in 2005. Fires without fault everytime the trigger is squeezed. Sorry about the lack of the photo What's the trick?

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