California legislators at it again - act now

rimfire78 · August 31, 2010, 12:35 AM

For those of you who might be in California;
Final vote Tuesday: AB1810, AB1934, and AB2358

ACTION NEEDED (TONIGHT AND TOMORROW):

Both bills just FAILED the seventh vote

AB1810 - 18 yes. 18 - no
AB1934- 20 yes 17 - no

There have both been granted "reconsideration" for being taken up on the Senate floor again on Tuesday the last day of session

Please call and THANK ALL of the Republicans and the following Dems

Correa
Ducheny
Florez
Negrete McLeod
Wright
For voting against AB1810

And ask Florez and Ducheny to vote NO on AB1934

ALSO: <<<Critical assistance needed>>>
Please CALL and FAX Senator Gloria Negrete McLeod and THANK HER for her votes AND politely ask her to continue to oppose these bills. Phone: (916) 651-4032 Fax: (916) 445-0128

Here is the Democrat list
Alquist, Elaine (916) 651-4013 [email protected]
Calderon, Ron (916) 651-4030 [email protected]
Cedillo, Gilbert (916) 651-4022 [email protected]
Corbett, Ellen (916) 651-4010 [email protected]
Correa, Lou (916) 651-4034
[email protected]
DeSaulnier, Mark (916) 651-4007 [email protected]
Ducheny, Denise Moreno (916) 651-4040 [email protected]
Florez, Dean (916) 651-4016 [email protected]
Hancock, Loni (916) 651-4009 [email protected]
Kehoe, Christine (916) 651-4039 [email protected]
Leno, Mark (916) 651-4003 [email protected]
Liu, Carol (916) 651-4021 [email protected]
Lowenthal, Alan S.(916) 651-4027 [email protected]
Negrete McLeod, Gloria (916) 651-4032 [email protected]
Oropeza, Jenny (916) 651-4028 [email protected]
Padilla, Alex (916) 651-4020 [email protected]
Pavley, Fran (916) 651-4023 [email protected]
Price, Curren (916) 651-4026 [email protected]
Romero, Gloria (916) 651-4024 [email protected]
Simitian, Joe (916) 651-4011 [email protected]
Steinberg, Darrell (916) 651-4006 [email protected]
Wiggins, Patricia (916) 651-4002 [email protected]
Wolk, Lois (916) 651-4005 [email protected]
Wright, Roderick (916) 651-4025 [email protected]
Yee, Leland (916) 651-4008 [email protected]

LanceOregon · August 31, 2010, 12:41 AM

Are these bad laws??

maestro pistolero · August 31, 2010, 12:50 AM

Yes, they are bad laws.

rimfire78 · August 31, 2010, 12:51 AM

AB1934 will ban unloaded open carry in California (which is all we've got because in most places, ccw permits are only issued by the sheriff's discretion)

AB1810 is a long gun registration bill

AB2358 Bans internet sales of ammunition and requires retailers to fingerprint and register ammo purchasers. Record caliber and quantity and send this info to the DOJ who can hold it in perpetuity.

BlueTrain · August 31, 2010, 08:01 AM

Don't you hate representative democracy?

rimfire78 · August 31, 2010, 09:46 AM

Bump

jmortimer · August 31, 2010, 09:54 AM

Kalifornia just blows. It's not enough that they bankrupted the state but to keep passing stupid gun law after stupid gun law hurts bad. Also, it hurts when most of "Real America" is moving in the opposite direction. Let's hope Novmber elections make some small change here in the right direction - the "Dumbanator" has not been good on Second Amendment issues. Thanks for the post and specific information. We sure need more right thinking people in "Suckramento."

BlueTrain · August 31, 2010, 10:18 AM

Right now you're probably wondering if I'm a real American, a "true" American or not.

roy reali · September 1, 2010, 06:08 AM

I hope you Californians get out of this one. However, it is almost silly for the Golden State to pass more gun restrictions. With the way the economy is going there, no one will be able to afford to buy guns or shoot. That seems to be the most effective gun control I can think of.

Al Norris · September 1, 2010, 07:54 AM

Late Breaking News!

All three anti-gun bills (AB1810, AB2358, and AB1934) Fail! Congratulations are in order for all the good people in the CRPA, NRA, CalGuns Foundation and CalGuns.net who worked to defeat these bills.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090100612.html

CowTowner · September 1, 2010, 08:15 AM

I only see where two failed, AB1934 and AB1810. Where does the article mention the third?

maestro pistolero · September 1, 2010, 12:44 PM

The article may not mention it, but the ammo registration bill, the long gun registration bill, and the unloaded open carry ban all failed at the end of the term.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=337925

RETG · September 1, 2010, 07:31 PM

Wow...if CA legislators spent as much time trying to balance their budget than they do trying to screw gun owners, they would have a 62 billion dollar surplus instead of a deficit.

Spartan23 · September 5, 2010, 09:50 AM

California does it again?

Oh, com' on! Isn't against the Constitution to do that?
Who vote those guys anyway?

ADB · September 7, 2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

"Real America" is moving in the opposite direction.

"Real America"? I'm sure that the 37 million people in California will be surprised to hear that their citizenship has been revoked. I live in New York. How's my citizenship?

August 31, 2010, 12:35 AM	#1
rimfire78 Member Join Date: April 18, 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 25	California legislators at it again - act now For those of you who might be in California; Final vote Tuesday: AB1810, AB1934, and AB2358 ACTION NEEDED (TONIGHT AND TOMORROW): Both bills just FAILED the seventh vote AB1810 - 18 yes. 18 - no AB1934- 20 yes 17 - no There have both been granted "reconsideration" for being taken up on the Senate floor again on Tuesday the last day of session Please call and THANK ALL of the Republicans and the following Dems Correa Ducheny Florez Negrete McLeod Wright For voting against AB1810 And ask Florez and Ducheny to vote NO on AB1934 ALSO: <<<Critical assistance needed>>> Please CALL and FAX Senator Gloria Negrete McLeod and THANK HER for her votes AND politely ask her to continue to oppose these bills. Phone: (916) 651-4032 Fax: (916) 445-0128 Here is the Democrat list Alquist, Elaine (916) 651-4013 [email protected] Calderon, Ron (916) 651-4030 [email protected] Cedillo, Gilbert (916) 651-4022 [email protected] Corbett, Ellen (916) 651-4010 [email protected] Correa, Lou (916) 651-4034 [email protected] DeSaulnier, Mark (916) 651-4007 [email protected] Ducheny, Denise Moreno (916) 651-4040 [email protected] Florez, Dean (916) 651-4016 [email protected] Hancock, Loni (916) 651-4009 [email protected] Kehoe, Christine (916) 651-4039 [email protected] Leno, Mark (916) 651-4003 [email protected] Liu, Carol (916) 651-4021 [email protected] Lowenthal, Alan S.(916) 651-4027 [email protected] Negrete McLeod, Gloria (916) 651-4032 [email protected] Oropeza, Jenny (916) 651-4028 [email protected] Padilla, Alex (916) 651-4020 [email protected] Pavley, Fran (916) 651-4023 [email protected] Price, Curren (916) 651-4026 [email protected] Romero, Gloria (916) 651-4024 [email protected] Simitian, Joe (916) 651-4011 [email protected] Steinberg, Darrell (916) 651-4006 [email protected] Wiggins, Patricia (916) 651-4002 [email protected] Wolk, Lois (916) 651-4005 [email protected] Wright, Roderick (916) 651-4025 [email protected] Yee, Leland (916) 651-4008 [email protected]

August 31, 2010, 08:01 AM	#5
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	Don't you hate representative democracy? __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

August 31, 2010, 10:18 AM	#8
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	Right now you're probably wondering if I'm a real American, a "true" American or not. __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

September 1, 2010, 06:08 AM	#9
roy reali Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2005 Posts: 3,248	Why? I hope you Californians get out of this one. However, it is almost silly for the Golden State to pass more gun restrictions. With the way the economy is going there, no one will be able to afford to buy guns or shoot. That seems to be the most effective gun control I can think of.

September 1, 2010, 08:15 AM	#11
CowTowner Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: Cowtown of course! Posts: 1,747	I only see where two failed, AB1934 and AB1810. Where does the article mention the third? __________________ NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, Home Firearms Safety, Pistol and Rifle Instructor *“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life......”* President John F. Kennedy

August 31, 2010, 12:41 AM	#2
LanceOregon Junior member Join Date: May 10, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,774	Are these bad laws??

August 31, 2010, 12:50 AM	#3
maestro pistolero Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 2007 Posts: 2,153	Yes, they are bad laws.

August 31, 2010, 12:51 AM	#4
rimfire78 Member Join Date: April 18, 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 25	AB1934 will ban unloaded open carry in California (which is all we've got because in most places, ccw permits are only issued by the sheriff's discretion) AB1810 is a long gun registration bill AB2358 Bans internet sales of ammunition and requires retailers to fingerprint and register ammo purchasers. Record caliber and quantity and send this info to the DOJ who can hold it in perpetuity.

August 31, 2010, 09:46 AM	#6
rimfire78 Member Join Date: April 18, 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 25	Bump

August 31, 2010, 09:54 AM	#7
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	Kalifornia just blows. It's not enough that they bankrupted the state but to keep passing stupid gun law after stupid gun law hurts bad. Also, it hurts when most of "Real America" is moving in the opposite direction. Let's hope Novmber elections make some small change here in the right direction - the "Dumbanator" has not been good on Second Amendment issues. Thanks for the post and specific information. We sure need more right thinking people in "Suckramento."

September 1, 2010, 07:54 AM	#10
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Late Breaking News! All three anti-gun bills (AB1810, AB2358, and AB1934) Fail! Congratulations are in order for all the good people in the CRPA, NRA, CalGuns Foundation and CalGuns.net who worked to defeat these bills. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090100612.html

September 1, 2010, 12:44 PM	#12
maestro pistolero Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 2007 Posts: 2,153	The article may not mention it, but the ammo registration bill, the long gun registration bill, and the unloaded open carry ban all failed at the end of the term. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=337925

September 1, 2010, 07:31 PM	#13
RETG Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2009 Location: Somewhere in Idaho, near WY Posts: 507	Wow...if CA legislators spent as much time trying to balance their budget than they do trying to screw gun owners, they would have a 62 billion dollar surplus instead of a deficit.

September 5, 2010, 09:50 AM	#14
Spartan23 Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 75	California does it again? Oh, com' on! Isn't against the Constitution to do that? Who vote those guys anyway?