Penetration targets

Irish B · October 12, 2010, 06:39 AM

What targets do you guys use to gauge penetration and depth? I don't really have any access to any big blocks of ballistics gel

jmorris · October 12, 2010, 08:07 AM

I have used old newspapers both wet and dry in paper grocery sacks and phone books.

jimbob86 · October 12, 2010, 08:14 AM

Milk jugs full of water.

See

http://www.theboxotruth.com/

demigod · October 13, 2010, 12:39 PM

Milk jugs bust open too easily. I use heavier vinyl jugs like detergent or gun powder comes in.

jimbob86 · October 13, 2010, 12:59 PM

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Milk jugs bust open too easily.

I use what I have on hand: 5 kids = more empty gallon milk jugs than I want to think about, considering the cost of milk.

Besides, it is the water that provides the mass to stop the bullets.

demigod · October 13, 2010, 04:04 PM

It's all for fun anyway.... but the water displaces faster in a regular milk gallon jug.

A guy on another forum had tested the same ammo I had in the pic above. (45 acp Ranger). Anyway I got much less penetration than he did because my vinyl jugs didn't burst.

It's not a "my way is better" thing. It's just that you'll get different penetration results with a more stout jug. I don't know which one is more indicative of performance on a bad guy.

jimbob86 · October 13, 2010, 04:10 PM

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I don't know which one is more indicative of performance on a bad guy.

Depends upon the degree of "stoutness" of the BG.... or maybe the consistency of the BG..... Fat guys more like the milk jugs, tweakers like..... I'd think they'd be stringy.... be like shooting a large hemp plant.....

jmortimer · October 13, 2010, 04:32 PM

One gallon water jugs - if it's good enough for the Box O'Truth then it's good enough for me.

Irish B · October 14, 2010, 03:35 AM

In medic school we worked on pigs because they're very similar to human and the skin is nearly identical. . . maybe i should just hang some pork out at the range and have at it

Baryngyl · October 14, 2010, 06:59 AM

Maybe we can convince the government to let us test out penetration on a bunch of bad guys all lined up in different positions, etc, this will take care of several problems at once (free up prison space, get rid of bad guys, save money, get some good test info, etc).

Michael Grace

Rampant_Colt · October 15, 2010, 05:09 PM

Fill with Ziplock storage baggies

Wetpack works well, too

October 12, 2010, 06:39 AM	#1
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October 12, 2010, 08:07 AM	#2
jmorris Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Posts: 3,077	I have used old newspapers both wet and dry in paper grocery sacks and phone books.

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jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	Milk jugs full of water. See http://www.theboxotruth.com/

October 13, 2010, 12:39 PM	#4
demigod Junior member Join Date: March 13, 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 1,129	Milk jugs bust open too easily. I use heavier vinyl jugs like detergent or gun powder comes in.

October 13, 2010, 04:04 PM	#6
demigod Junior member Join Date: March 13, 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 1,129	It's all for fun anyway.... but the water displaces faster in a regular milk gallon jug. A guy on another forum had tested the same ammo I had in the pic above. (45 acp Ranger). Anyway I got much less penetration than he did because my vinyl jugs didn't burst. It's not a "my way is better" thing. It's just that you'll get different penetration results with a more stout jug. I don't know which one is more indicative of performance on a bad guy.

October 13, 2010, 04:32 PM	#8
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,763	One gallon water jugs - if it's good enough for the Box O'Truth then it's good enough for me.

October 14, 2010, 03:35 AM	#9
Irish B Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 359	In medic school we worked on pigs because they're very similar to human and the skin is nearly identical. . . maybe i should just hang some pork out at the range and have at it

October 14, 2010, 06:59 AM	#10
Baryngyl Member Join Date: April 29, 2010 Posts: 67	Maybe we can convince the government to let us test out penetration on a bunch of bad guys all lined up in different positions, etc, this will take care of several problems at once (free up prison space, get rid of bad guys, save money, get some good test info, etc). Michael Grace